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Still seems like the perp is being protected.
Unbelievable.
Imo.
 
  • #1,442
Still seems like the perp is being protected.
Unbelievable.
Imo.

Federal jurisdiction is always slow paced. But if he is offered any sort of plea deal, he would be an idiot not to take it. Or his defense team.

We can look at "Josh Duggar" for example. I can't remember the details of the plea deal, but he rejected it. And is now incarcerated for over a decade. And he didn't kill anyone.
 
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We’re digging into new developments in the Anna Kepner case. A war of words is playing out on social media. Anna’s family allegedly wrote online they want the suspect “buried” with “nails in the coffin”.


 
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Just popping into this thread to say I’m so glad the stepbrother has been charged FINALLY. I was so worried this case would just fade away and he’d somehow skate the charges. This is going to be a longgggg road in court but it’s comforting to know Anna is at least getting justice. Sending my thoughts to her family and friends today❤️
 
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Chris Stewart
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Charges have been filed at last, according to the family. CBS is being very careful here to point out that nothing has been stated/confirmed by LE; that this info comes from the family (in a social media post?). Here are some quotes from the carefully-worded article linked below:

(1)" A 16-year-old stepbrother of Anna Kepner has been charged with homicide ... according to court documents obtained by CBS News, which cited the Kepner family's social media."

(2) "The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida and the FBI have not commented on developments in the Kepner case."

(3) "However, CBS News has learned there is an ongoing case against the teen that is currently under seal and being overseen by Miami federal judge Beth Bloom."



Glad to see he has finally been charged.
 
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I have followed this case peripherally. I didn't get significantly involved since the primary source of information has been from family members. Much of this related to a nasty child-custody case. My sleuthing experience is that family members tend to have an agenda and control the release of information.

That seems to be the case here. I don't know any 16 year olds who require nightly sleeping pills for insomnia. I don't know why the kids changed schools multiple times. I don't know what the stepbrother's "demons" were. Was climbing on top of his sister (as alleged by her ex-boyfriend) a routine occurrence or a one of event. This, coupled with the fact that he has been charged as a juvenile for "homicide" and a redacted charge (I suspect most of us have the same idea as to what that may be), suggests that he has a long complicated back story with behavioral issues and possible mental illness.

Unfortunately, we may never know. We don't have the right to know everything, but I feel like I have only heard a small part of the story. I can't think of a reasonable scenario where this would be justifiable homicide. Nevertheless, I don't feel like I really understand this case.
 
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. I don't know any 16 year olds who require nightly sleeping pills for insomnia

ADHD medication, which he allegedly took, causes severe difficulty falling asleep for some people. Some take medication to try to counteract that.

And some teens definitely have severe insomnia for other reasons. (I did as a teen.)

But this teen has a lot more wrong with him. He knows right from wrong but does not care, IMO.
 
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ADHD medication, which he allegedly took, causes severe difficulty falling asleep for some people. Some take medication to try to counteract that.

And some teens definitely have severe insomnia for other reasons. (I did as a teen.)

But this teen has a lot more wrong with him. He knows right from wrong but does not care, IMO.
Severe insomnia as a child, teenager, young adult, and not-so-young adult here. It's been fun!
 
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Severe insomnia as a child, teenager, young adult, and not-so-young adult here. It's been fun!
I can’t imagine. I had a bad spell a few years ago with insomnia. It took everything out of me. Miserable time of my life
 
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We’re digging into new developments in the Anna Kepner case. A war of words is playing out on social media. Anna’s family allegedly wrote online they want the suspect “buried” with “nails in the coffin”.


In the article it states " the kepner family and the respondent have stated on social media ,they want the suspect buried "

By respondent ,I'm presuming it means , suspects mother SK .

I don't know about anyone else but I find that very concerning behaviour from his mother

After all this is her child and no matter which way you crumble the cookie ,he is a product of her upbringing and his crime while not her action ,was prehaps somewhat not entirely within his control and prehaps if her choices on the cruise didn't enable him to be alone in a room with Anna this may not of happened

So is she more concerned about saving her marriage then looking at why her son was able to do this and supporting him .

I just feel a 16 year old is his mother's responsibility until he reaches adulthood and I feel writing things on social media like what is alleged is a deflection of the role she played in enabling the situation ,such as not ensuring he had his medication and allowing them to share a cabin room

Imo it's a save thy self and throw her son to the wolves. I might not be popular for stating this but its the truth and I'm well aware her son also had a choice and he made a deathly one
 
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In the article it states " the kepner family and the respondent have stated on social media ,they want the suspect buried "

By respondent ,I'm presuming it means , suspects mother SK .

I don't know about anyone else but I find that very concerning behaviour from his mother

After all this is her child and no matter which way you crumble the cookie ,he is a product of her upbringing and his crime while not her action ,was prehaps somewhat not entirely within his control and prehaps if her choices on the cruise didn't enable him to be alone in a room with Anna this may not of happened

So is she more concerned about saving her marriage then looking at why her son was able to do this and supporting him .

I just feel a 16 year old is his mother's responsibility until he reaches adulthood and I feel writing things on social media like what is alleged is a deflection of the role she played in enabling the situation ,such as not ensuring he had his medication and allowing them to share a cabin room

Imo it's a save thy self and throw her son to the wolves. I might not be popular for stating this but its the truth and I'm well aware her son also had a choice and he made a deathly one
You voiced exactly how I feel about her. Not taking responsibility for her part in this scenario. Being vocal about her feelings toward her child now.
If she hated her son this much, why didn’t she let his father raise him?
Why fight so hard for custody of a child you don’t want?
And if she truly wants to bury him, why did she show up at the courthouse with Anna’s father, her latest husband?

In my opinion, the entire bunch has their priorities so far out of order, it’s controlled chaos. I cannot imagine how all the other children are managing their emotions, fear, anxiety, sadness, anger at how their lives are now some kinda spectacle for the whole world to see.

It’s unbelievable how Anna wasn’t anyones priority. JMO
 
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I have often wondered if many perpetrators are actually "victims" themselves. Raised by people who were not great as parents.

There are a lot of cases, that seem to fit that criteria.
 
  • #1,455
You voiced exactly how I feel about her. Not taking responsibility for her part in this scenario. Being vocal about her feelings toward her child now.
If she hated her son this much, why didn’t she let his father raise him?
Why fight so hard for custody of a child you don’t want?
And if she truly wants to bury him, why did she show up at the courthouse with Anna’s father, her latest husband?

In my opinion, the entire bunch has their priorities so far out of order, it’s controlled chaos. I cannot imagine how all the other children are managing their emotions, fear, anxiety, sadness, anger at how their lives are now some kinda spectacle for the whole world to see.

It’s unbelievable how Anna wasn’t anyones priority. JMO
From a child psychology prospective, I'm gathering SK speaking so ill of her son and if it's spoke about while small ears are listening, psychologically it equates to child does something wrong and mammy will want child dead .

That might seem like an extreme thought process for an adult mind but children hear things literally

I personally feel certain adults on that were present on the ship should be charged with negligence but that's jmo
 
  • #1,456
I have often wondered if many perpetrators are actually "victims" themselves. Raised by people who were not great as parents.

There are a lot of cases, that seem to fit that criteria.
Many criminals are a product of their upbringing and environment . Does that mean they are blameless and are a victim in the sense of the victim in which they preyed upon ,not necessarily but certain factors in a childhood can greatly influence what path a person chooses to take

In this case we have a minor who for all sense and purposes is the responsibility of his parents. I'm not suggesting his parents should condone his crime and behaviour as that is without a doubt deserving of punishment

But the behaviour of the female parent is going unchecked and gives insight into prehaps the environment in which both Anna and her son lived in .

If loose morals and lack of personal responsibility was something that was learnt by mirroring . SK is now jumping on the bandwagon of those who do wish her son harm and is deflecting from her own role in her sons demise and Anna's death

And CK is not blameless either , and language such as that used in the post just makes both of them seem immature and lacking social awareness and parental skill jmo

From the opening of the case I felt it was up to the adults on the cruise to ensure the safety of all the minors including Anna and her step brother and I don't think that was fulfilled which resulted in the situation before us . And with the behaviour now we see , I don't think either are fit to be raising any child jmo imo
 
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Yes. There is a cascade of poor decisions made by adults, that no doubt contributed to Anna's death. They may not have killed her, but the poor parenting is evident on many levels here.

Starting with the room assignments. That seems to have been extremely inappropriate to me. And it seems like the Mom here, did not even have permission from the father of the perpetrator to take him out of the country. The issues just keep multiplying.
 
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Many criminals are a product of their upbringing and environment . Does that mean they are blameless and are a victim in the sense of the victim in which they preyed upon ,not necessarily but certain factors in a childhood can greatly influence what path a person chooses to take

In this case we have a minor who for all sense and purposes is the responsibility of his parents. I'm not suggesting his parents should condone his crime and behaviour as that is without a doubt deserving of punishment

But the behaviour of the female parent is going unchecked and gives insight into prehaps the environment in which both Anna and her son lived in .

If loose morals and lack of personal responsibility was something that was learnt by mirroring . SK is now jumping on the bandwagon of those who do wish her son harm and is deflecting from her own role in her sons demise and Anna's death

And CK is not blameless either , and language such as that used in the post just makes both of them seem immature and lacking social awareness and parental skill jmo

From the opening of the case I felt it was up to the adults on the cruise to ensure the safety of all the minors including Anna and her step brother and I don't think that was fulfilled which resulted in the situation before us . And with the behaviour now we see , I don't think either are fit to be raising any child jmo imo
As always Su5ie, spot on! How you so eloquently articulate your posts by saying the things I want to say is beyond me. 😉 Love this^^
 
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and his crime while not her action ,was prehaps somewhat not entirely within his control

I'm going to argue that by age 16, his actions were entirely within his control. He locked the door. He had time to stop before she died but didn't. He tried to cover it up. Many 16-year-olds are tried as adults.

In the article it states " the kepner family and the respondent have stated on social media ,they want the suspect buried

I think it's possible his mother didn't actually say this about him, and if she did, we don't know the context. I just wonder if this is actually a fact, her actual words.
Just my opinions.
 

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