FL FL - Arcadia, HispMal, 25-50, UP14440, Klippel-Feil Syndrome, work shirt/Virgin Mary belt buckle, Jun'13
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Do you think you know who he might be but keeping it under wraps? Thanks for caring about this man.
Not exactly. I googled DeSoto County and saw a photo of a group of people working in a lake. One of them had a VERY short neck and a black tanktop like this guy. However, the photo was taken back in April of this year, and this person apparently was a woman.
Found on Facelogics website.
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https://www.facelogics.com/wpimages/wp1727e2eb_05_06.jpg (CENSORED PM WARNING)
I can't find a higher quality version. Possibly somewhere on Facebook?
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https://www.facelogics.com/wpimages/wp1727e2eb_05_06.jpg (CENSORED PM WARNING)
I can't find a higher quality version. Possibly somewhere on Facebook?
Hmm, very interesting. I’ll ask my contact at the sheriffs office about this. I’m not sure if he’s aware of this.
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JOHN DOE - ARCADIA, FLORIDA | Federal Bureau of Investigation
Arcadia, Florida June 14, 2013
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Yes- well, at least usually.
But.... Virgin of Guadalupe images are very popular in Mexico. As a result, images on hats, t-shirts, belt buckles, wallets etc are not unheard of.
As a side note, Catholic countries ( and eastern Orthodox countries as well) can have different images of the Virgin Mary. A Guadalupe image increases the chances that wearer was Mexican. In contrast, La Virgen de la Caridad y Cobre is Cuba's national image.
Hmmm.....
This site portrays the individual as black, but other sources state the individual was hispanic.
Though Hispanics are commonly thought of a 'race', they are actually a cultural group. Black Hispanics are common in some Carribean countries (maybe a majority in the Dominican Republic) and are not unheard of in others on the mainland such as Panama.
Anyways, and needless to say..... a very significant majority of black people in the US are not Hispanic. Are they presuming the victim was Hispanic because of the Virgin of Guadalupe image?
Another side note....
The Virgin of Guadalupe is Mexico's national image of the Virgin Mary. As a result, the image is particularly popular in Mexico. Of course, one does not need to be Mexican (or even Hispanic) to have the image, but black Mexicans are very rare and are usually from a small area bordering two Mexican states.
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The image is that of the Lady of Guadalupe who presented herself to two Aztec peasants in 1531 in Mexico City. Obviously, it is very popular with Roman Catholic Mexicans, but like any religious imagery it appeals to a broader selection of the devout. That being said, I still think the wearer was a Roman Catholic of Mexican descent. There are at least eight Our Lady of Guadalupe Mission churches in Florida. Two of the closest ones to the site of the discovery are in Immokalee and Wimauma. There is also one in Wahneta. I hope LE have been to these areas to see if anyone has gone missing. I also read that deafness or hard of hearing goes along many times with KFA so that could be used as a characteristic to winnow down missing individuals.
Still not ruled out!
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5’0”? That’s quite small for a male, that’s quite distinctive. He also has a name on his work jacket. Maybe someone knows him.
2013 Homicide
During June 14, 2013 the remains of an unidentified homicide victim was discovered along SR 70 just E of Turkey Hammock. Based on the scene the victim appears to have been transported to the location after death and possibly had been at the location for 2 months before discovery.
The victim is believed to be a Hispanic male, 25 to 50 years of age, 5’0″ in height and weighed approximately 140lbs. The unidentified victim was determined to have Klippel-Feil syndrome which is a disease causing the individual to appear as having no neck.
The photograph depicting the victim is from forensic facial reconstruction completed by LSU during 2015.
Anyone with information is asked to call The Criminal Investigations Division of The DeSoto County Sheriff's Office at (863) 993-4700 or Southwest Florida Crime Stoppers 1-800-780-TIPS. You may remain anonymous and be subject to a reward.
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Ok, after looking up Klippel Feil Syndrome, I realized that’s the disability Big Ed from 90 Day Fiance has
It causes the individuals not to really have a neck, they’re typically short and stocky. That explains his 5’0” frame. Whoops.
Maybe Gary is a nickname? Could possibly be short for something, I have a friend named Garrett who goes by Gary. The famous chess master Garry Kasparov’s birth name was Garik, then he changed it as a teenager IIRC.
This UID was Hispanic, I’m thinking possibly his real name, since I know lots of Hispanic-American families tend to either use Hispanic names or super “ordinary sounding” American names. Possibly a case of an immigrant worker? Maybe he changed his name, as some immigrants do. I’m second generation Russian-American (my parents and I are American born) and some of my ancestors changed their names when moving to the US. It’s not super uncommon.
My great grandfather: Illia - Elias
My great aunt: Nadezhda - Nadine
My great uncle: Pavel - Paul
My other great aunt: Polina - Pauline
For this UID, I’m thinking something like Guillermo or Gerardo. Leaning more towards Gerardo since Guillermo is a form of William, but sometimes this kind of name change still happens. Or it could just be his name.
Never seen this case before. Strange case.
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I wonder who Gary is in that case. Maybe it was the UID’s name or nickname? That’s what I was thinking. He probably saw it on this uniform which he apparently bought at a flea market. I can’t really imagine anyone wearing a uniform with a name on it that isn’t theirs unless it’s a nickname.
He wore a work uniform from New York, and per the detective for this case, they have located the former owner of the uniform. It's believed the victim obtained this uniform at a flea market, so it's kind of hard to determine who the buyer was.
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Has Juan been ruled out yet? I have a feeling it could be him. I don’t think I’ve ever met a 4’11” man who didn’t have a medical condition that caused him to be that small except for one of them. I can’t tell if Juan has the syndrome or not though since he’s 200-odd pounds and that’s a lot of weight on someone who is 4’11”. My mom was once 300 pounds at 5’3”. Now at 180 pounds she looks so different. As odd as it is for me to say she looks like her arms got longer and her neck got longer. She looked like she could have the syndrome but I knew she didn’t. Could be a possibility. UID is kind of heavy for a man of his size but the syndrome tends to make you have a heavy build. Not sure if that is Juan’s case but I would say it could be a possibility. He could have lost weight, also the UID was probably heavier but weighed 140 pounds due to decomposition.
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Bumping case up.
Could someone please list his rule-outs?
I hope he will be identified.
Could someone please list his rule-outs?
I hope he will be identified.
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