Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male Hiker, Denim & “Mostly Harmless” July 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

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  • #701
I agree, it seems like a match to me. I have not seen CarlK comment on this thread so he might not be following the case. I would like to hear his opinion on the morphing photos Legally Bland did:

Not to be irreverent, but I can picture a group of unidentified victims hanging out together in the afterlife and hoping that Carl will decide to do a reconstruction of them.

I do see a lot of similarities between Denim and Karl, although I think Denim looks younger.
 
  • #702
Does anyone have a link to the poster for Harmeless? If not I can look for it later. I’ll print a bunch and hit some more spots on the Appalachian Trail NY/NJ area. There is a shelter for hikers in the area. I can leave a few posters there if I can find it. I’ll also check Horlers deli, and the camping spot in Unionville and make sure the posters are still there.
It may not help but I feel the need to do something.
 
  • #703
Not to be irreverent, but I can picture a group of unidentified victims hanging out together in the afterlife and hoping that Carl will decide to do a reconstruction of them.

I do see a lot of similarities between Denim and Karl, although I think Denim looks younger.

Learned a new English/American word today....irreverent.... I don't think you are.
 
  • #704
Does anyone have a link to the poster for Harmeless? If not I can look for it later. I’ll print a bunch and hit some more spots on the Appalachian Trail NY/NJ area. There is a shelter for hikers in the area. I can leave a few posters there if I can find it. I’ll also check Horlers deli, and the camping spot in Unionville and make sure the posters are still there.
It may not help but I feel the need to do something.

Here is the link to the flyer from the Sheriff: Collier County Sheriff's Office

Thank you for taking the time to do that.
 
  • #705
I agree, it seems like a match to me. I have not seen CarlK comment on this thread so he might not be following the case. I would like to hear his opinion on the morphing photos Legally Bland did:



Tagging @CarlK90245 can you take a look at this if you get a chance? Thanks! :)
In my opinion the other gentleman is far too old by 6+ years. They do look alike. I personally do not believe that is the same person however. Great catch on him but far too many differences.
 
  • #706
It's mind-boggling that we have all these pictures of this man as well as at least a dozen people who spoke with him on the trail at some point, and no one can figure out who he really is! He has such a kind face, and everyone who talked to him seemed to get along with him. There has to be someone out there looking for him.

I know he alluded to the fact that he had family in Louisiana and/or Florida, but I wonder if he's actually from Canada. If he had been here on a work visa and then left his job, it would make sense that he wouldn't have any ID on him because he may have overstayed his visa. Just a thought, I have nothing to back this up. This case just really tugs at my heart.
 
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Someone posted Elias Jean Pery, Jr. on a missing people’s FB page. He is in NAMUS.

“On July 18, 2017, Pery telephoned his mother and told her he was going to move to Hoboken, NJ to reside with friends at an unknown location and to pursue a non-descript job in New York City. Not long afterwards, Pery allowed his cellphone to be disconnected and his email accounts to elapse as well. Pery did not file a forwarding address with the U.S. Post Office. Since his disappearance, Pery has made no attempt to contact any family members or friends.

Does not own a car. He is known to walk everywhere he goes.”

Missing Person Case

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  • #709
Someone posted Elias Jean Pery, Jr. on a missing people’s FB page. He is in NAMUS.

“On July 18, 2017, Pery telephoned his mother and told her he was going to move to Hoboken, NJ to reside with friends at an unknown location and to pursue a non-descript job in New York City. Not long afterwards, Pery allowed his cellphone to be disconnected and his email accounts to elapse as well. Pery did not file a forwarding address with the U.S. Post Office. Since his disappearance, Pery has made no attempt to contact any family members or friends.

Does not own a car. He is known to walk everywhere he goes.”

Missing Person Case

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I suggested him here a couple of pages ago ;) I think he’s a closer match than Karl based on appearance.
 
  • #710

Someone posted Elias Jean Pery, Jr. on a missing people’s FB page. He is in NAMUS.

“On July 18, 2017, Pery telephoned his mother and told her he was going to move to Hoboken, NJ to reside with friends at an unknown location and to pursue a non-descript job in New York City. Not long afterwards, Pery allowed his cellphone to be disconnected and his email accounts to elapse as well. Pery did not file a forwarding address with the U.S. Post Office. Since his disappearance, Pery has made no attempt to contact any family members or friends.

Does not own a car. He is known to walk everywhere he goes.”

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People reported seeing Denim/Mostly Harmless on the AT in June 2017. The above photos from my previous post are from around Aug 2017, Sept 2017 and October 2017 taken by other hikers who met him. Even if the multiple June sightings of Denim are mistaken, I don't think he could have gotten on the trail and slimmed down that much in a couple months. Plus Elias is also too young-- only 31 in 2017. Denim had salt and pepper hair with a lot of grey in his beard. And finally, he is in NAMUS already. The sheriff office has repeatedly said they checked missing persons databases including NAMUS and he is not anyone already in NAMUS. JMO.
 
  • #711
The Trek (hiking website) has an article about the different physical transformations people undergo when they do a thru-hike. Some of the hikers are unrecognizable when they get to the end of the trail. (I know it doesn't help us get any closer to finding Denim's identity but it's still quite interesting.)

24 Insane Thru-Hike Transformation Photos - The Trek
 
  • #712
The Trek (hiking website) has an article about the different physical transformations people undergo when they do a thru-hike. Some of the hikers are unrecognizable when they get to the end of the trail. (I know it doesn't help us get any closer to finding Denim's identity but it's still quite interesting.)

24 Insane Thru-Hike Transformation Photos - The Trek

Interestingly, at least one of these people appeared to be younger when they finished!
 
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  • #713
Nothing much out there on Elias...NamUs states he has brown eyes. I couldn't find any other sources on his missing.
 
  • #714
This might help in visualizing him heavier.
 

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  • #715
@TatianaBarbie Did you hear back from Karl's family?

I'm sorry for the delay in replying. I was out-of-town staying with my daughter who just gave birth to my second grandchild! I did message the Find Karl page, and included a photo. I have not heard back from the Find Karl page as of this morning. I've been checking every day!
 
  • #716
I'm sorry for the delay in replying. I was out-of-town staying with my daughter who just gave birth to my second grandchild! I did message the Find Karl page, and included a photo. I have not heard back from the Find Karl page as of this morning. I've been checking every day!

Thank you and congrats!
 
  • #717
Congratulations, TatianaBarbie!

People reported seeing Denim/Mostly Harmless on the AT in June 2017. The above photos from my previous post are from around Aug 2017, Sept 2017 and October 2017 taken by other hikers who met him. Even if the multiple June sightings of Denim are mistaken, I don't think he could have gotten on the trail and slimmed down that much in a couple months. Plus Elias is also too young-- only 31 in 2017. Denim had salt and pepper hair with a lot of grey in his beard. And finally, he is in NAMUS already. The sheriff office has repeatedly said they checked missing persons databases including NAMUS and he is not anyone already in NAMUS. JMO.

@gardener, I remain skeptic about their ability to check every missing person website. I especially find it hard to believe that they are checking every single new entry. Of course, if new entries have fingerprints, dentals or DNA on file that would automatically rule them out but new entries without any of those would require someone constantly scouting the internet and going through every new entry and I highly doubt they have the necessary manpower for that. Maybe they did so at first but as months go by without new leads, this case will slowly be put aside and added to the pile of cold cases while they focus on new cases with fresh leads. I cannot really blame them, it’s just the way things go. At the same time that means I disagree on automatically ruling out everyone in Namus or other websites like it ourselves.

I also disagree with Elias not being able to lose so much weight in a couple of months. If he had indeed been terminally ill, it would not be impossible for him to lose that amount of weight. I’m not saying that therefore it’s him, I’m just playing advocate of the devil here ;)

Regardless of all that, I still do not see the resemblance with Karl that everyone else seems to be seeing. There are too many structural differences between their faces for them to be the same person imo. Though, I’m happy people here are really trying to get him officially ruled out!
 
  • #718
Congratulations, TatianaBarbie!



@gardener, I remain skeptic about their ability to check every missing person website. I especially find it hard to believe that they are checking every single new entry. Of course, if new entries have fingerprints, dentals or DNA on file that would automatically rule them out but new entries without any of those would require someone constantly scouting the internet and going through every new entry and I highly doubt they have the necessary manpower for that. Maybe they did so at first but as months go by without new leads, this case will slowly be put aside and added to the pile of cold cases while they focus on new cases with fresh leads. I cannot really blame them, it’s just the way things go. At the same time that means I disagree on automatically ruling out everyone in Namus or other websites like it ourselves.

I also disagree with Elias not being able to lose so much weight in a couple of months. If he had indeed been terminally ill, it would not be impossible for him to lose that amount of weight. I’m not saying that therefore it’s him, I’m just playing advocate of the devil here ;)

Regardless of all that, I still do not see the resemblance with Karl that everyone else seems to be seeing. There are too many structural differences between their faces for them to be the same person imo. Though, I’m happy people here are really trying to get him officially ruled out!

@ LeenC It's just a (painful) waiting game...maybe against all odds: I can appreciate your skepticism and critical view.
 
  • #719
This has to be him!
Height is off slightly at 5'11" but everything else is screaming match to me.
His eyes, his slightly crooked smile with a slight dimple in his cheek, his straight teeth, the crinkle in his brow just above his nose, hair, eyebrows and ear placement all look the same to me.
The timing of Karl closing his bank account in July 2013 fits with the year the tent model was made. Being from California fits with the tent and other equipment brands he had that are not as common on the East Coast.
Grew up partly in Live Oak, FL and he has 6 siblings-- he might actually have a sister in Florida.
Please tell me someone has sent this in?
If this is him, Karl needs to go home for Christmas this year.

I know that it appears that KB wasn’t considered a match by the Collier County Sheriff’s Dept., however it would be interesting to find out if he (KB) had any known abdominal scar which was mentioned as possible for the UID hiker. It’s hard to shake the uncanny resemblance between these two men especially realizing there’s a 6 year gap between the photos - hopefully authorities have or will do a thorough vetting of the KB possibility.
 
  • #720
Actually still waiting for Tatianabarbie...if she got anything back from the family.
 
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