GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #7

[Whiteorchids]

I live in CA, sadly this hit the news yesterday. Another Mom kills her 3 young daughters.

http://news.yahoo.com/mother-held-suspicion-killing-3-daughters-062352280.html

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[Coldpizza]

I live in CA, sadly this hit the news yesterday. Another Mom kills her 3 young daughters.

http://news.yahoo.com/mother-held-suspicion-killing-3-daughters-062352280.html

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We have a thread here, just heartbreaking.

CA - Torrance mother detained after Three Children Found Dead - 20 May 2014 (... - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[popsicle]

New mug shot.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...icles/bn9/2014/5/20/julie_schenecker_mov.html

 

[azmama]

New mug shot.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...icles/bn9/2014/5/20/julie_schenecker_mov.html

She looks better in this pic than she did in the trial.

 

[Bar Bee Jay]

I am so glad you have came out of "lurksville" and started posting Bar Bee Jay!
You have shared some really great information since you have joined.

I have never heard of chathouse news, an I appreciate that link! There was another article in there about Joran-van-der-Sloot that was a shock to me. He is getting married to a girl that HE got pregnant! Are you kidding me??!!
I had always assumed that Peruvian prisons were really tough... But it sounds like it's not so much a prison after all. Geeezz I am sitting on my hands to avoid typing something that may get me in trouble :banghead: But if you could read my mind. Unbelievable!!!

http://www.***********.com/2014/05/joran-van-der-sloot-to-marry-in-peruvian-prison-become-father/


http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/14/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot/

Oh, Thanks so much, Dmacky! You are very kind.
And now I thank you for posting the van der sloot links, I totally missed them.

I agree, that is sickening!!

 

[Abigail]

Does JS have drug and alcohol addiction? Or was this just an isolated period of overindulgence brought on by stress and MI? I mean for example, if someone drinks every day for two weeks because they lost their job or because they are grieving over a loved one, that doesn't really make them an alcoholic.

MI is difficult enough to treat on its own. But if she suffered from MI and multiple addictions, residential treatment would have been the only thing that could help her.

According to her husband, Julie's alcohol problem developed in Sept. 2010 -- he correlated it with going off of Abilify (due to Tardive Dyskinesia side effects) and going on Lithium, which was not a good change for her. He said that prior to that time, they might have a glass of wine with dinner, maybe 2 or 3 times a week, but that alcohol was never an issue.

I'm not sure when the oxycodone problem started. She'd had some surgeries in the past year or so, which is why she had them. But, she was taking them for what she described as "brain pain" -- and not for the pain from the surgical sites. I find this interesting, as we discovered, almost by accident, that our son's aggression resolved better with pain killers than with anti-psychotic meds. In fact, his neurologist took him off all the anti-psychotics & mood stabilizers and put him on OTC pain med (Naproxen), and that reduced his symptoms by 80%. Apparently, "brain pain" is a real symptom, not imagined.

 

[Dmacky]

This is where they have moved JS ~ glad to see they have in patient mental health help there.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region2/368.html

 

[Abigail]

This is where they have moved JS ~ glad to see they have in patient mental health help there.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region2/368.html

I only heard that they'd moved her to the transitional facility -- if she's already at Lowell, that was a pretty quick transition -- but maybe they wanted her where she was able to get treatment.

ETA: http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/list.asp?DataAction=Paging
This says she's still at the intake center in Ocala. Maybe it hasn't been updated yet. She probably will be sent to Lowell though -- or maybe Chattahoochee if they approve her for a mental hospital.

 

[janx]

I was on vacation when the jury reached its early verdict. I did peek into WS with my iPad. Glad to hear (but not at all surprised) that she will have access to mental healthcare. :seeya:

 

[Dmacky]

Abigail, now I am confused. :smile: I see where she is in Florida Women's Reception Center, I thought that was Lowell, no? That was fast if indeed that is where she is. Maybe they needed to evaluate/medicate her? When I went to that page I clicked on browse current population. But everyone that is there came up in alphabetical order ONLY. I found the easiest way to get to her name was to start at the end, then keep clicking "previous" until I got to the S's. I tried to link her name here, but it won't let me.

Julie's is number 877
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region2/368.html

 

[Dmacky]

Her mug shot says "current custody pending"

 

[Nore]

I was just looking around. Glad Julie is in Florida State recep. Center. This looks like it has facilities to help her mentally. I hope she can stay there. :loveyou:

 

[Nore]

Abigail, now I am confused. :smile: I see where she is in Florida Women's Reception Center, I thought that was Lowell, no? That was fast if indeed that is where she is. Maybe they needed to evaluate/medicate her? When I went to that page I clicked on browse current population. But everyone that is there came up in alphabetical order ONLY. I found the easiest way to get to her name was to start at the end, then keep clicking "previous" until I got to the S's. I tried to link her name here, but it won't let me.

Julie's is number 877
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region2/368.html

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Hi DMackey, I did the same thing :floorlaugh: Is this a permanent placing or just to evaluate her? I'll bet she never sees her husband again. I cant say I'd blame him, the hurt is too deep. :seeya:

 

[Dmacky]

Hi Nore , It looks to me like to me that Carolina is right ~ up thread.
From everything I have read, it looks like it is a transitional facility.
The inmate reception center is where they send the prisoners when they are first transferred from the county jail into the state prison system. The state then evaluates each prisoner to determine where they will be sent for their permanent housing.

 

[popsicle]

Q and A – The Good, The Bad, and The Sane

I spoke with over half the jury on Julie Schenecker’s trial. Some I spoke to as a group and some juror’s one on one. It was very interesting to speak to some of them as a group after not being able to speak about the case outside the courthouse after the verdict or during the entire trial. They’re a group of intelligent, honest and very detailed jurors. They were all highly impressed with Judge Battles and the way he conducted his courtroom, he had class, made each of them feel proud to serve and felt respected. - See more at: http://www.darrenkavinoky.com/q-and-a-the-good-the-bad-and-the-sane/#sthash.UiYtkFnY.dpuf

http://www.darrenkavinoky.com/q-and-a-the-good-the-bad-and-the-sane/

 

[Bar Bee Jay]

Q and A – The Good, The Bad, and The Sane

I spoke with over half the jury on Julie Schenecker’s trial. Some I spoke to as a group and some juror’s one on one. It was very interesting to speak to some of them as a group after not being able to speak about the case outside the courthouse after the verdict or during the entire trial. They’re a group of intelligent, honest and very detailed jurors. They were all highly impressed with Judge Battles and the way he conducted his courtroom, he had class, made each of them feel proud to serve and felt respected. - See more at: http://www.darrenkavinoky.com/q-and-a-the-good-the-bad-and-the-sane/#sthash.UiYtkFnY.dpuf

http://www.darrenkavinoky.com/q-and-a-the-good-the-bad-and-the-sane/

Yay, it's here, finally!! Thanks for posting this, Popsicle!
Very interesting and I disagreed with or questioned only a few answers.
This jury really got it IMO.

I take it there is to be a part 3 to come with the "most unique answers".

 

[Abigail]

Abigail, now I am confused. :smile: I see where she is in Florida Women's Reception Center, I thought that was Lowell, no? That was fast if indeed that is where she is. Maybe they needed to evaluate/medicate her? When I went to that page I clicked on browse current population. But everyone that is there came up in alphabetical order ONLY. I found the easiest way to get to her name was to start at the end, then keep clicking "previous" until I got to the S's. I tried to link her name here, but it won't let me.

Julie's is number 877
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region2/368.html

OK, yes, you're right, upon closer inspection, it appears that the Florida Women's Reception Center is actually on the campus of Lowell CI. The website said there are 4 missions (and that inmates in one mission have minimal contact with those in the others): intake, inpatient mental health, faith based, and gen pop.

The FWRC serves psychological grades 1-6, while Lowell only 1-3.

So...she's currently in the intake section, and from there, she could be transferred to their inpatient mental health facility, or to gen pop at Lowell, or they could send her to another prison, or they could send her to the State Hospital in Chattahoochee.

If you go to this site, you can just type in her last name, and it'll pull her up -- you don't have to scroll through all those names.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/search.asp

 

[Bar Bee Jay]

The BEST & MOST INTRIGUING ANSWERS from the Schenecker JURORS

Part 2

http://www.darrenkavinoky.com/q-and-a-the-good-the-bad-and-the-sane-part-2/

 

[minor4th]

Interesting what the jurors had to say about Parker.

 

[Abigail]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts...kers-ex-husband-raises-possibility-of/2182093

IMO, I'd sue too.

A number of the doctors (both for State and defense) testified that Julie's stay at Windmoor in Nov. triggered the serious depression and instability in the next 2 months leading up to the murders.

Parker's email to Julie's doctor on the day of her admission indicated they were taking her off all her drugs. Abrupt weaning of several of the drugs she was on is a very dangerous thing. She was on 2 drugs in the benzodiazepine family. Benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome can happen even with a very slow wean, but abrupt weaning can be fatal, especially for someone who has been on them for a long time and at high dosage, as Julie was. Symptoms of withdrawal include hallucinations, seizures, psychosis, and suicide, and the symptoms can continue for months.

Parker testified that she was cleared for a month of treatment by their insurance company, and yet the facility released her after less than 3 weeks, stating that she'd gained "insight."

It also came out in trial that Julie expressed to staff at Windmoor thoughts of killing herself and the children, by carbon monoxide poisoning. And yet...they released her. And, apparently...did not report this homicidal/suicidal ideation to anyone (except maybe her doctor?)