GUILTY FL - Charles Kinsey, autistic caregiver, North Miami, July 2016 -guilty of misdemeanor

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From Jesse Williams:

If you have a critique for the resistance — for our resistance — then you’d better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest … If you have no interest in equal rights for black people, then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.
 
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From Jesse Williams:

If you have a critique for the resistance — for our resistance — then you’d better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest … If you have no interest in equal rights for black people, then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.

Wow wow wow. So so so so excellent!!!!
 
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The shooter was placed on paid leave.

I think that is SOP for most cop shops when there is a shooting. Paid administrative leave can be implemented immediately to allow time for an investigation. It ought not imply any conclusions about the cop or what they did. That should come as a result of investigation. The fellow who was put on unpaid leave indicates that they had something immediately available (which I understand to be his report of someone loading a weapon--when no weapon was present) on which to base disciplinary action.
 
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I think that is SOP for most cop shops when there is a shooting. Paid administrative leave can be implemented immediately to allow time for an investigation. It ought not imply any conclusions about the cop or what they did. That should come as a result of investigation. The fellow who was put on unpaid leave indicates that they had something immediately available (which I understand to be his report of someone loading a weapon--when no weapon was present) on which to base disciplinary action.

They didn't put him on unpaid leave because he said there was a weapon when there wasn't-that seems to be an honest mistake. But apparently he claimed he wasn't on the scene -that clearly isn't an honest mistake if he actually was on the scene.
 
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Attorney for autistic man involved in North Miami police shooting asks DOJ to investigate case
Arnaldo Dietz, 26, hospitalized since July 18 shooting


Local10 News ABC
By Amanda Batchelor - Senior Digital Editor
Posted: 12:59 PM, July 26, 2016
Updated: 3:54 PM, July 26, 2016


http://www.local10.com/news/attorne...-police-shooting-asks-doj-to-investigate-case

“A second police officer, Cmdr. Emile Hollant, was placed on leave without pay, because investigators said he gave inconsistent accounts of the shooting.

Sources told Local 10 News that Hollant was the voice on the police radio telling dispatch and other officers that someone had a gun. They said he then lied to investigators, telling them he wasn't at the scene when the shooting happened.

Rios' toy truck was confiscated by police as evidence. Dietz said two toy trucks have been donated to his client.”​

Doesn't make things totally clear, but is a small step, perhaps.

Autistic's man lawyer is arguing that psychiatric hospital isn't appropriate place for him? What is the appropriate place for him? When he escaped (left) the group home before Mr. Kinsey got shot, he went and sat in the middle of the road-clearly he can't be allowed to roam on his own. And then he did it again the next day-which is why he was place into the hospital.
 
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Charles Kinsey speaks at hospital after visiting autistic man involved in police-involved shooting
Arnaldo Rios, 26, remains in psychiatric ward at Aventura Hospital

Local10 News ABC
By Amanda Batchelor - Senior Digital Editor
Posted: 2:41 PM, July 28, 2016
Updated: 3:32 PM, July 28, 2016


http://www.local10.com/news/charles...tic-man-involved-in-police-involved-shooting-

“AVENTURA, Fla. - A man who was shot by a North Miami police officer last week met Thursday with the autistic man for whom he was caring for at Aventura Hospital.

Arnaldo Rios, 26, remains in the hospital's psychiatric ward after the July 18 shooting of Charles Kinsey.”​

More...
 
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They didn't put him on unpaid leave because he said there was a weapon when there wasn't-that seems to be an honest mistake. But apparently he claimed he wasn't on the scene -that clearly isn't an honest mistake if he actually was on the scene.

Why do you think a police officer would lie about being at the scene of a shooting?
 
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Rios did not have a gun, but a toy truck. Rios is rarely without one of his several toy trucks -- he even names them, according to his mother.

Kinsey, who was lying on the street beside Rios with his hands up, shouted to police that Rios held a toy truck. Police fired, striking Kinsey in the leg.

The police union said Officer Jonathan Aledda had intended to hit Rios.

"There's no logic behind it, no logic," said Soto. "(Rios) was rocking back and forth, playing with his truck, looking at Charles on the ground. Anyone would have realized that he was a special child."

www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/health/north-miami-police-shooting-reunion/index.html

My daughter used to carry around police cars that she had named. :(
 
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Autistic's man lawyer is arguing that psychiatric hospital isn't appropriate place for him? What is the appropriate place for him? When he escaped (left) the group home before Mr. Kinsey got shot, he went and sat in the middle of the road-clearly he can't be allowed to roam on his own. And then he did it again the next day-which is why he was place into the hospital.

If the police department was properly trained, the group home would be a perfect place for Rios. If the police had not responded, Mr. Kinsey would have walked Rios back to the group home and everything would have been fine. This was a classic example of the police showing up and pulling out guns, and creating a problem where there was none.

What the hell type of society do we live in where autistic people (who are the least violent members of society, and no threat to anybody) have to be kept locked up in psychiatric hospitals to protect them <modsnip>? <modsnip>
 
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The police are hypervigilant because they feel like they coukd die. Why? Because anyone could be carrying a gun. Anyone. And we see all of the soecial reasons people have for shooting someone .
 
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If the police department was properly trained, the group home would be a perfect place for Rios. If the police had not responded, Mr. Kinsey would have walked Rios back to the group home and everything would have been fine. This was a classic example of the police showing up and pulling out guns, and creating a problem where there was none.

What the hell type of society do we live in where autistic people (who are the least violent members of society, and no threat to anybody) have to be kept locked up in psychiatric hospitals to protect them <modsnip>? <modsnip>

Perfect place? His mother wanted him transferred even before the shooting.

"Soto wanted her son moved to another group home. But, she said, she was told the transfer would take some time."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...orth-miami/article91472342.html#storylink=cpy
 
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Rios also really likes toy trucks. He researches them. He sleeps with them, gives them names.
The white truck he had in his hand last week when Kinsey was shot is named &#8220;Cellular Phones.&#8221;
That truck and his other favorites are ones he clings to when he is stressed, his mother said.
Now people around the country are sending Rios toy trucks. Four more arrived Tuesday.
They are not his only obsessions. Rios also loves toy airplanes, stuffed animals, and is always with a toy genie bottle from the movie &#8220;Aladdin.&#8221;


Rios was diagnosed with autism when he was about 8 years old, but his mother long had her suspicions. She first noticed differences in her boy when at 18 months he stopped looking directly at her. He wouldn&#8217;t eat and reacted to her touch as though she was beating him. She started studying autism.
Soto&#8217;s husband left her and the family when Arnaldo was 3, something that shook him profoundly. Soto said her son would often sit by the window waiting for his father to return, but he never did.

CNN

Behind may have been posted:

The officer on unpaid leave--
Emile Hollett

&#8220;I don&#8217;t understand if he&#8217;s aiming at the autistic kid, how he could miss,&#8221; Napoleon said. If that was the case, said the attorney, &#8220;he had plenty of time to tell my client to move.&#8221;
Napoleon also questioned why if police were trying to save Kinsey&#8217;s life, they rolled him over and handcuffed him as he was bleeding from a bullet wound to his leg.
&#8220;They handcuffed him after he got shot,&#8221; he said.

a radio transmission, suggested the autistic man was loading a weapon, which turned out to be the toy truck, the source said.

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blue minivan filled with special-needs folks pulled up and workers escorted them by hand into the home. Neighbors say it&#8217;s not uncommon for adults to go on walks around the neighborhood, often in groups and always with a caretaker. Kinsey was shot just around the corner from the home, in front of an electrical grid station.[/FONT]

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91309192.html#storylink=cpy




Thursday night about 40 Black Lives Matter protestors stormed into the North Miami police department demanding that the officer who shot Kinsey be fired.

t wasn&#8217;t clear Thursday Aledda had undergone Crisis Intervention Training. The session is required in many departments when an officer joins and is urged as a refresher in ensuing years. It is not required in North Miami.


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Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91309192.html#storylink=cpy
t wasn&#8217;t clear Thursday Aledda had undergone Crisis Intervention Training. The session is required in many departments when an officer joins and is urged as a refresher in ensuing years. It is not required in North Miami.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91309192.html#storylink=cpy





laying the blame on improper training and poor decision-making.

about 16%:

598 people the ACLU has documented who were shot and killed by police in the U.S. this year, 88 were unarmed.

&#8220;You can&#8217;t get enough training when you&#8217;re dealing with lethal force. This is as bad a situation as I&#8217;ve ever seen. It&#8217;s a good thing he was obviously a lousy marksman.&#8221;

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91309192.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article92394612.html


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Jonathon Alleda's Personnel Jacket was released to the public:

You can access it here: http://risenews.net/2016/07/read-personnel-jacket-cop-shot-charles-kinsey/

It is 104 pages.

It wont cut and paste :



Which I think is used in narratives on this thing!!! There are identical sentences!

Highlights:

- He is a "machine" in giving out tickets! Their words not mine!! (138 in one month!) . He has tremendous "intitive" as indicated by the number of tickets he gives to others.

-He is excellent at creating competion amung his "peers" WTH does THAT mean??

-He has nice handwriting!

-His reports rarely (??) have to be altered.

-He reports for duty as told. He also follows his work schedule very well.
--

--He is "proactive" and "consistant" in terms of all the people he arrests and give tickets to.

--He comes to work in his outfit. It was noted that they were "clean and pressed". He was also noted to have "exemplary" personal hygenie! He appears to both shave and brush his teeth regularily.

He was commended for catching 4 people who took some booze from a liquer store.

He was given another commendation for finding some shot lifters. Adjectives used in this award were:

Using his "forsight" he drove his car to a place where the suspects were.

His "instincts" paid off - he found a car!

--He was noted to be "cognizant" of his surroundings!

--Part of one commendation the reason for the award noted that he used his "investgatory skills" in finding some stolen clothes on the backseat! I call that "seeing"!

Apparetently he used his "investigative skills" and smelled some pot on someone.

A guy stole $60 in change from a Subway. He found him, he ran, cop chased - he then "capitilized" on his knowledge of the area and caught him!! He also used his "skills" while running.

-While doing a dui stop car came back stolen, and once again he "strategically" drove his unit blocking the car in!

--he completed his mandatroy 40 CEUs! I am not making this up - thank ibnora - this is a hoot for me!!

-- A 3 day class on how to pull over a drunk driver.



-A 40 hour course on how to engage in "speed management" - check out your speedoometer - 40 hours?

A two day class on how to use the breathalizer

He then took another course on how pull over a car and use a breathilzer - sounds like double credit to me!!

--How to write, how to work a police car,how to talk as a cop

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The "ticket machine" stood out to me as well.
 
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It wont cut and paste :



Which I think is used in narratives on this thing!!! There are identical sentences!

Highlights:

- He is a "machine" in giving out tickets! Their words not mine!! (138 in one month!) . He has tremendous "intitive" as indicated by the number of tickets he gives to others.

-He is excellent at creating competion amung his "peers" WTH does THAT mean??

-He has nice handwriting!

-His reports rarely (??) have to be altered.

-He reports for duty as told. He also follows his work schedule very well.
--

--He is "proactive" and "consistant" in terms of all the people he arrests and give tickets to.

--He comes to work in his outfit. It was noted that they were "clean and pressed". He was also noted to have "exemplary" personal hygenie! He appears to both shave and brush his teeth regularily.

He was commended for catching 4 people who took some booze from a liquer store.

He was given another commendation for finding some shot lifters. Adjectives used in this award were:

Using his "forsight" he drove his car to a place where the suspects were.

His "instincts" paid off - he found a car!

--He was noted to be "cognizant" of his surroundings!

--Part of one commendation the reason for the award noted that he used his "investgatory skills" in finding some stolen clothes on the backseat! I call that "seeing"!

Apparetently he used his "investigative skills" and smelled some pot on someone.

A guy stole $60 in change from a Subway. He found him, he ran, cop chased - he then "capitilized" on his knowledge of the area and caught him!! He also used his "skills" while running.

-While doing a dui stop car came back stolen, and once again he "strategically" drove his unit blocking the car in!

--he completed his mandatroy 40 CEUs! I am not making this up - thank ibnora - this is a hoot for me!!

-- A 3 day class on how to pull over a drunk driver.



-A 40 hour course on how to engage in "speed management" - check out your speedoometer - 40 hours?

A two day class on how to use the breathalizer

He then took another course on how pull over a car and use a breathilzer - sounds like double credit to me!!

--How to write, how to work a police car,how to talk as a cop

--

Oh my gosh, this is hilarious. If they can't find real things to praise him for, maybe that should be a clue.

In 30+ years in the work world My teeth brush it has never been mentioned in a review. Sigh.


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Oh my gosh, this is hilarious. If they can't find real things to praise him for, maybe that should be a clue.

In 30+ years in the work world My teeth brush it has never been mentioned in a review. Sigh.


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Evidently the other officers are not as well groomed. When my father was on the force (32 yrs) the other officers wanted to know what dry cleaner he used because his shirts were pressed perfect. It was my Mother who did his shirts. :) Also when my husband went to the same barber as my father and he told her who he was, she told him that his father-in-law was a very clean person. Some do take notice and it is nice that it is appreciated. jmo
 
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Before police shooting, 911 caller cautioned man might be mentally ill
Miami Herald
By Charles Rabin
July 28, 2016


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...orth-miami/article92497672.html#storylink=cpy

“In the 911 call to police that led to the shooting of mental healthcare worker Charles Kinsey, a woman described a Hispanic man in the street holding a gun to his head — but warned the dispatcher that the man appeared to be mentally ill and that it might not be a gun.

She also said that a black man was trying to help him and accurately detailed what both Kinsey and his autistic patient, Arnaldo Eliud Rios, were wearing.

“I don’t know if it’s a gun. But he has something the shape of a gun, so just be careful,” the caller said in a 911 recording released late Thursday by Miami-Dade police. “But he’s sitting in the middle of the road.””

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“Miami-Dade police released the three-minute, 19-second recording on the same day Kinsey for the first time spoke publicly since leaving the hospital.”​

Much more. Includes audio of the call.
 

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