GUILTY FL - Dan Markel, 41, FSU law professor, Tallahassee, 18 July 2014 - #2 *Arrests*

[0101ABA]

Yeah, it seems like the diagram was merely an afterthought to enhance the 'Anatomy of a Hit' headline. JMO

That was how I viewed it too. The fact that it was published was a bit reckless, but I don't believe they were malicious in their intent.

 

[dotr]

Speculation only but no, I don't think she's a relative. She was WA's counsel during earlier litigation, so I wouldn't think the conflict arose due to a sudden familial connection. Provided the request to withdraw wasn't initiated by WA in order to delay proceedings, I think it was most likely the result of having an unreasonable client. MOO

WA and KA, probably knew each other from working more or less, in the same professional and social circles.
imo, speculation.

 

[Razz]

Yeah, it seems like the diagram was merely an afterthought to enhance the 'Anatomy of a Hit' headline. JMO

Well, as a newspaper, they should print only what they can verify and not what they think may have happened unless of course, it's bracketed with IOOO (in our opinion only).


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[Paige SC]

Well, as a newspaper, they should print only what they can verify and not what they think may have happened unless of course, it's bracketed with IOOO (in our opinion only).


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Journalistic standards aren't what they used to be. I can't think of one 'whodunit' murder in recent memory that wasn't rife with misstatements, half truths, omission of fact or blatant bias in the media. We spend more time trying to verify what's been reported as fact than we do sleuthing the facts themselves. And in the rare event we stumble upon interesting punditry, facts are lost in translation due to woeful grammar & sentence structure. JMO

 

[kemo]

It isn't that unusual for a divorce to spiral into mutually assured destruction. It isn't that unusual for a divorce to go in that direction right out of the shoot, but that generally happens when something went down in the marriage that really, really set one of the couple off.

I think it is common sense for a layman and pretty obvious for an attorney that the best way to move forwards with your life after a divorce with children is do everything possible to keep things reasonable, business-like and to separate anger and other emotions from the legal proceedings.

To initiate the divorce in a manner that provokes maximum stress to the other party thereby guaranteeing a protracted and expensive divorce, can only mean that Wendi was extremely angry, humiliated or incensed. Either something very serious went on in their marriage or Wendi "perceived" something serious going on.

 

[nancydrew71]

I find this vile and horrendous for a grandmother to bad-mouth a father to his small children who are vulnerable. My bother's wife left him for another man and my mother (uneducated), even though angry never said a bad word about her to her 3 children and my brother would never have allowed it. Now the kids are all grown, just graduated from college happily adjusted and love both parents! Life goes on.

 

[Satchie]

It isn't that unusual for a divorce to spiral into mutually assured destruction. It isn't that unusual for a divorce to go in that direction right out of the shoot, but that generally happens when something went down in the marriage that really, really set one of the couple off.

I think it is common sense for a layman and pretty obvious for an attorney that the best way to move forwards with your life after a divorce with children is do everything possible to keep things reasonable, business-like and to separate anger and other emotions from the legal proceedings.

To initiate the divorce in a manner that provokes maximum stress to the other party thereby guaranteeing a protracted and expensive divorce, can only mean that Wendi was extremely angry, humiliated or incensed. Either something very serious went on in their marriage or Wendi "perceived" something serious going on.

Agree, except in this situation IMO wherever you refer to 'Wendi' replace it with 'Wendi and her family'. I suspect she wouldn't have done any of it if she hadn't had at least 3 other people urging her on, and those people were not lawyers.

 

[colette]

To initiate the divorce in a manner that provokes maximum stress to the other party thereby guaranteeing a protracted and expensive divorce, can only mean that Wendi was extremely angry, humiliated or incensed. Either something very serious went on in their marriage or Wendi "perceived" something serious going on.

snipped by me..

To me her taking the 2-carat diamond ring belonging to Markel’s late great-aunt, a Holocaust survivor says it all. She thinks she is entitled to whatever she wants.

 

[dotr]

snipped by me..

To me her taking the 2-carat diamond ring belonging to Markel’s late great-aunt, a Holocaust survivor says it all. She thinks she is entitled to whatever she wants.

One might understand if the ring was her "big girl " engagement ring, if so, maybe WA could not stand the idea of another woman receiving and wearing it.
Or, someone is very greedy and petty, or, very angry and vindictive?
If, the ring is still gone, might it have been transferred to someone else...?
Speculation, imo.

 

[liz b.]

One might understand if the ring was her "big girl " engagement ring, if so, maybe WA could not stand the idea of another woman receiving and wearing it.
Or, someone is very greedy and petty, or, very angry and vindictive?
If, the ring is still gone, might it have been transferred to someone else...?
Speculation, imo.

RBBM : IDK about the ring, could be. But I think this murder was moved forward in part because DM had met another educated, accomplished woman up in NY. Perhaps he would have married her, making her the kids' step mother. Maybe some people in this case would have viewed this as unacceptable competition for the kids' affection and ultimate loyalty. jmo

 

[misterb]

I wonder what KA's conflict of interest is in this case that caused her to remove herself? Is she a relative?

Moo

I am not sure it is a conflict in the sense we normally think of that. A common reason to withdraw is that the attorney knows the client plans to testify falsely or submit a false statement in an affidavit. The conflict is that the attorney would be suborning perjury if she continued to represent the client under those circumstances.

 

[Paige SC]

It isn't that unusual for a divorce to spiral into mutually assured destruction. It isn't that unusual for a divorce to go in that direction right out of the shoot, but that generally happens when something went down in the marriage that really, really set one of the couple off.

I think it is common sense for a layman and pretty obvious for an attorney that the best way to move forwards with your life after a divorce with children is do everything possible to keep things reasonable, business-like and to separate anger and other emotions from the legal proceedings.

To initiate the divorce in a manner that provokes maximum stress to the other party thereby guaranteeing a protracted and expensive divorce, can only mean that Wendi was extremely angry, humiliated or incensed. Either something very serious went on in their marriage or Wendi "perceived" something serious going on.

I find it odd someone would wage a Pearl Harbor type of ambush on their spouse absent a valid reason or urgent need.‎
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The fact she didn't allege domestic violence or child abuse tells me that in her mind, simply "being unhappy in the marriage" was justification enough to unleash maximum psychological and financial warfare on him. Quite pathological, IMO.‎

 

[dotr]

In this case, a man hired a " hit man " to kill his family members, and the payment would be the victim's own jewelry...

Matthew Olszewski of the 1500 block of Glen Ellyn Road was charged with three counts of solicitation of murder and three counts of solicitation of murder for hire, class X felonies. Olszewski is accused of trying to hire who he thought was a hitman to murder his aunt, uncle and grandfather.

State's Attorney Robert Berlin told NBC Chicago Olszewski was in jail for stealing $500 worth of jewelry from his relatives. He wanted his family members dead, Berlin said, so they couldn't testify against him.

"He said he felt betrayed," Berlin said. "He told the hitman where he could find the jewelry and that would be his payment."

Source: $1M Bond For Glendale Heights Murder-for-Hire Suspect | NBC Chicago http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...for-Hire-Suspect-219016591.html#ixzz4AjiKbLtZ
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[Razz]

In this case, a man hired a " hit man " to kill his family members, and the payment would be the victim's own jewelry...


Source: $1M Bond For Glendale Heights Murder-for-Hire Suspect | NBC Chicago http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...for-Hire-Suspect-219016591.html#ixzz4AjiKbLtZ
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Hmmmm......I think the ring would have been too traceable and a very unwise decision to give it to someone who would likely pawn it at the first opportunity. I do think however, that the ring was taken for some bargaining power over Dan or maybe she took it so one of her boys would inherit it someday.

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[ND2014]

Wendi replied to the op. Then someone replied to the op but referenced it to Wendi. But Wendi deleted her own post. But you can still see the other person post that was asking Wendi a question. Btw. I never seen what Wendi said.

On May 26 at 3:58 pm, WA's reply was: "I appreciate your concern about Ben and Lincoln's well-being, (original poster name). Please drop me a line if you'd like to hear how they are doing." She later deleted it, but I can still see it on my FB, for some reason.

FWIW, the Justice for Dan admin has posted twice today and is clearly not sympathetic to CA. IMO, the admin may have been on vacation last week during the Memorial Day holiday; hence, the lack of updates/responses to the breaking news.

 

[dotr]

" Close relationship" spelled out..
Wonder what Daniel would think of all of this now?
imo.

In their affidavit, investigators wrote they also focused on ties between Wendi's brother Charles, a dentist like his dad, and alleged murderer Garcia.

At the time of the shooting, Charles was dating the woman who had two children with Garcia.

'Charlie was involved in a personal relationship with Katherine Magbanua … Sigfredo Garcia is the father of Magbanua's two minor children, both with the last name Garcia,' the paperwork reads.

South Florida records, meanwhile, show the Adelsons to be a tightly-knit family where business, including the successful dental practice and extensive real estate holdings, and blood ties are intertwined.

Patriarch Harvey, 71, founded the Adelson Institute For Aesthetics and Implant Dentistry in the Fort Lauderdale suburb of Tamarac, corporate records show. He is listed as manager.

Billing itself The Florida Smile Maker, the company was then joined by Wendi's father Charles Adelson, a periodontist known to travel to Jamaica several times a year to provide free dentistry to children in Kingston's poorest neighborhood.

Motor vehicle records show dad Harvey owns a half dozen black luxury cars, including three Mercedes-Benzes, two Lexus and a Ferrari. They are driven by Wendi and Charles.

Markel was internationally known legal thinker fascinated with applying the proper punishment to crime. He argued in scholarly papers in favor of the abolition of the death penalty in America.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sons-bitter-divorce-family.html#ixzz4AkD9c4At
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rbbm.

 

[Paige SC]

FWIW, the Justice for Dan admin has posted twice today and is clearly not sympathetic to CA. IMO, the admin may have been on vacation last week during the Memorial Day holiday; hence, the lack of updates/responses to the breaking news.

Weird. You'd thin‎k DM would have many close friends tied to the world of legal academia. A casual relationship does not a causal relationship make. Establishing probable cause requires more than establishing a link between persons involved. Of course, I'd like to see CA arrested but I'm sure there's a reason he hasn't been. Based on what I've seen so far I'm a bit sketched out about the 'Justice' facebook page but ‎I'm relieved to know they've acknowledged and denounced the elephant in the room.

 

[Razz]

Weird. You'd thin‎k DM would have many close friends tied to the world of legal academia. A casual relationship does not a causal relationship make. Establishing probable cause requires more than establishing a link between persons involved. Of course, I'd like to see CA arrested but I'm sure there's a reason he hasn't been. Based on what I've seen so far I'm a bit sketched out about the 'Justice' facebook page but ‎I'm relieved to know they've acknowledged and denounced the elephant in the room.

there are several elephants in the room IMO

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[floridamomma]

Well, as a newspaper, they should print only what they can verify and not what they think may have happened unless of course, it's bracketed with IOOO (in our opinion only).


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There is a reason the Tallahassee Democrat has long been known as The Mullet Wrapper.

It's not just them, journalism just ain't what it used to be, and I'm barely old enough to make such a statement!

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[geektreehouse]

There is a reason the Tallahassee Democrat has long been known as The Mullet Wrapper.

It's not just them, journalism just ain't what it used to be, and I'm barely old enough to make such a statement!

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Just to comment on the confusion of the graphic on the Tall. Dem website, the graphic that was on the front page of the print edition was different and more of an accurate representation of the case as we know it.