GUILTY Fl - Dan Markel, 41, Fsu Law Professor, Tallahassee, 18 July 2014 - #5 *arrests*

[MissyS]

Haha, well something looks funny thats for sure.

But the times recorded on the document are so close that it leaves uncertainty for me. LE copied this and typed it up so maybe it is edited. If this is their only information and they have no surveillance or pings near DM until Premier, then I am surprised that question did not come up with LR.
"Who told you DM would be at Premier Fitness?"
So maybe this info is known and kept under wraps for whatever reason.

If we were looking at the actual transcripts from the phone companies, we could speculate.

As it is, well, something looks funny.

TV was a divorce present.

Undercover agent--- this TV will cost about 5000.

TV repairman on the day of the murder--- discussion of brother either hiring a hitman or buying a TV. Then a hitman executes DM the same day.

The very same day that the hitmen know that DM will be leaving town by the evening.

If the hitmen appeared at the gym parking lot and did not follow DM the entire morning, then they had a fairly detailed (and updated) understanding of DM's day. Including the time frame between dropping off the children and when he was scheduled to depart Tallahassee. Maybe others knew about DM's travel plans/coordination of child care, but who else knew DM's exercise schedule (on a day to day basis).




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[Pawns123]

They are all in on it. The fact that they split so soon.

TV was a divorce present.

Undercover agent--- this TV will cost about 5000.

TV repairman on the day of the murder--- discussion of brother either hiring a hitman or buying a TV. Then a hitman executes DM the same day.

The very same day that the hitmen know that DM will be leaving town by the evening.

If the hitmen appeared at the gym parking lot and did not follow DM the entire morning, then they had a fairly detailed (and updated) understanding of DM's day. Including the time frame between dropping off the children and when he was scheduled to depart Tallahassee. Maybe others knew about DM's travel plans/coordination of child care, but who else knew DM's exercise schedule (on a day to day basis).




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[GordonX]

Snapped - Lisa Costello
Transcript

00:19:31 ( Gregg ) A week went by, a month went by, two months went by, she continued to refuse to testify.
00:19:36 Judges even tell the witness, "You have the keys to your jail cell.
00:19:41 You hold them in your hand." In her other hand, Lisa held Alan Mackerley's fate.
00:19:47 The only way she can get out of jail is answer our questions, which would probably be very incriminating to Alan Mackerley.
00:19:54 Alan apparently agreed.
00:19:56 ( Lisa ) Everyone involved was ultimately worried about who was paying the bills, and that was Alan.
00:20:01 Alan paid all of my attorney's fees.
00:20:04 He supported me, he supported my family.
00:20:07 He did everything, financially, he could.
00:20:10 ( Melissa ) He did indeed take very good care of her while she was in jail.
00:20:15 Whatever she needed-- basically she could make a phone call and Alan Mackerley took care of it.
00:20:19 It looked like her silence was being bought.
00:20:24 Coming up, was Alan buying Lisa's silence or setting her up?

http://mreplay.com/transcript/snapped-(lisa_costello)/8568/OXYGENP/Friday_January_15_2010/166580/

 

[DexterMorgan]

Quick question.

How did Luis know that Dan was leaving town the next day; so the hit had to be done that day?

Because I doubt Dan supposedly going out of town the next day was ever made public.

So if true. Luis and Garcia definitely had some inside information which was fed by WA to CA to KM to SG to LR to us.

Jmo.

 

[reallybusy]

I had an interesting conversation with a friend, who claimed to me that they had a conversation with someone very recently. This friend doesn't have deep intrigue for this case but knew of mine. While not knowing the names of the players, my friend made a reference to "the one who flipped," so I made the assumption that it was Luis Riveria. This was something that was told to me, and I can't/won't go and corroborate it with the person who told my friend. I do not know this to be false or true firsthand, and this info below should be treated as such. I do, personally, trust this friend, but I'm still skeptical and not putting too much stock in it as it's not been reported. So who knows really but this is what I heard.

This is what my friend conveyed about the conversation:

There was a hit out on LR -- $$$. There was no mention to me as to who put this hit out - re gangs or others.
While in jail, LR was beaten up in holding or general population.
Unfortunately for LR, this is a state case, not a federal one, so witness protection or something similar apparently doesn't apply.
The strategy is/was to move LR around to make sure his paperwork (where he is physically) was/is behind him in the process, and that is how he's kept safe
LR is transported to proceedings with caution. They are concerned for his safety.

As you may recall, some reporting did allude that something unusual going on with Riveria's whereabouts. That made this conversation my friend says they had, well, quite interesting.

Markel suspect Rivera moved from Leon County Jail
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/ne...spect-rivera-moved-leon-county-jail/88567928/
"Luis Rivera, one of two men facing murder charges in the death of Dan Markel, has been transferred from the Leon County Jail. Rivera, who appeared in Thursday’s jail booking report, was released at 3:27 p.m. Wednesday, according to court records. The Leon County Sheriff's Office confirmed Rivera was released to another jurisdiction. His whereabouts are unclear, but release information says he was scheduled to return to Coleman Federal Correctional Complex in Central Florida. His Monticello-based attorney Chuck Collins declined to discuss the 33-year-old’s release. Prosecutors have not returned phone calls for comment. Rivera was brought to Leon County from the high-security federal prison shortly after he and 34-year-old Sigfredo Garcia were indicted on first-degree murder charges in June."

 

[DexterMorgan]

I had an interesting conversation with a friend, who claimed to me that they had a conversation with someone in LE very recently. This friend doesn't have deep intrigue for this case but knew of mine. While not knowing the names of the players, my friend made a reference to "the one who flipped," so I made the assumption that it was Luis Riveria. This was something that was told to me, and I can't/won't go and corroborate it with the LE person. I do not know this to be false or true firsthand, and this info below should be treated as such. I do, personally, trust this friend.

This is what my friend conveyed about the conversation:

There was a hit out on LR -- $$$. There was no mention to me as to who put this hit out - re gangs, the "Sopranos" and others.
While in jail, LR was beaten up in holding or general population.
Unfortunately for LR, this is a state case, not a federal one, so witness protection or something similar apparently doesn't apply.
The strategy is/was to move LR around to make sure his paperwork (where he is physically) was/is behind him in the process, and that is how he's being protected.
This LE person was/is involved in prisoner transport with LR and said that the motorcade transporting LR back and forth from proceedings is extensive - a Fed Ex-like truck, Crown Vics, and motorcycles. They are concerned for his safety.

As you may recall, some reporting did allude that something unusual going on with Riveria's whereabouts. That made this conversation my friend says they had, well, quite interesting.

Markel suspect Rivera moved from Leon County Jail
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/ne...spect-rivera-moved-leon-county-jail/88567928/
"Luis Rivera, one of two men facing murder charges in the death of Dan Markel, has been transferred from the Leon County Jail. Rivera, who appeared in Thursday’s jail booking report, was released at 3:27 p.m. Wednesday, according to court records. The Leon County Sheriff's Office confirmed Rivera was released to another jurisdiction. His whereabouts are unclear, but release information says he was scheduled to return to Coleman Federal Correctional Complex in Central Florida. His Monticello-based attorney Chuck Collins declined to discuss the 33-year-old’s release. Prosecutors have not returned phone calls for comment. Rivera was brought to Leon County from the high-security federal prison shortly after he and 34-year-old Sigfredo Garcia were indicted on first-degree murder charges in June."

Since Luis is currently serving 19 years in a Federal prison. Then maybe he got beat up when transfered to a local jail while going to court.

But since he is supposed to be a head figure of the Florida Latin Kings. Then I am surprised that this happened.

Unless he was just a regular gang member but the feds acted like he was the head honcho to boost their case.

Idk

 

[Pawns123]

Since Luis is currently serving 19 years in a Federal prison. Then maybe he got beat up when transfered to a local jail while going to court.

But since he is supposed to be a head figure of the Florida Latin Kings. Then I am surprised that this happened.

Unless he was just a regular gang member but the feds acted like he was the head honcho to boost their case.

Idk

I'm on record for saying that KM was in danger on this site and other blogs! They picked her up to save her life. It is apparent that some people wanna stay free at any cost.

 

[whonos]

TV was a divorce present.

Undercover agent--- this TV will cost about 5000.

TV repairman on the day of the murder--- discussion of brother either hiring a hitman or buying a TV. Then a hitman executes DM the same day.

The very same day that the hitmen know that DM will be leaving town by the evening.

If the hitmen appeared at the gym parking lot and did not follow DM the entire morning, then they had a fairly detailed (and updated) understanding of DM's day. Including the time frame between dropping off the children and when he was scheduled to depart Tallahassee. Maybe others knew about DM's travel plans/coordination of child care, but who else knew DM's exercise schedule (on a day to day basis).




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And even if his associates, neighbors, NY girlfriend knew his definite schedule, why would they be communicating with G & R? or CA? or DA?
WA was the only one of that crowd that was in communication with him, because of their children.

“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Arthur Conan Doyle

 

[whonos]

I'm on record for saying that KM was in danger on this site and other blogs! They picked her up to save her life. It is apparent that some people wanna stay free at any cost.

The Sopranos!

 

[whonos]

Since Luis is currently serving 19 years in a Federal prison. Then maybe he got beat up when transfered to a local jail while going to court.

But since he is supposed to be a head figure of the Florida Latin Kings. Then I am surprised that this happened.

Unless he was just a regular gang member but the feds acted like he was the head honcho to boost their case.

Idk

We don't know his situation with opposing gang members but we do know a few people that would benefit if he were eliminated and 2 of them are in jail without the means to network and order hits.

 

[whonos]

If this is their only information and they have no surveillance or pings near DM until Premier, then I am surprised that question did not come up with LR.
"Who told you DM would be at Premier Fitness?"


I'm confused... I thought that LR and SG knew that Dan would be going to/was at the gym because they had been following him. Maybe I'm missing something.

That was what I had thought. When I read the phone records which also state where G & R's phones ping, and checked the location of the school and a Tallahassee cell tower map, then I wondered why their phones had not pinged at the towers close to the school, since that is where he went after leaving home and before going to Premier.
I was not sure about whether or not some towers have stronger signals or something and may cause phones to ping even if the phone is not close so I asked some questions and someone answered that phones always ping at the closest tower. Creative Playschool, the Rodeway Inn and Premier Fitness are almost in a straight line. The school is Southwest at the left of the map, Rodeway is in the middle and Premier is Northeast. Their phones ping only around Rodeway and Premier.

But since LE copied and typed the records and we cannot see the exact transcripts, they could have left out some things, maybe on purpose. I guess the Bus camera, etc was between Premier and his house? Is this ever stated clearly?

If you follow the link provided you can read the records on page 11 and see exactly what I am talking about.

Here is a Google map showing DM's house, Rodeway Inn and Premier Fitness
(CreativePREschool is to the right of the intersection of Tharpe and Mission.):

https://www.google.com/maps/place/2...5778546c7af857c6!8m2!3d30.46995!4d-84.2638489

Google Tallahassee Cell Tower Map to see cell towers around Preschool where their phones should have pinged if they were following DM at that time.

Also from the Tallahassee Democrat:
"The Prius, long known as the "vehicle of interest" in the 41-year-old father of two's killing, is what investigators now say Luis Rivera and 34-year-old Sigfredo Garcia drove to Tallahassee in mid-July 2014.

It was seen in the parking lot of Premier Health and Fitness on Maclay Boulevard as Markel exercised. It was spotted at a government building, a bank and a store along Markel’s route for morning errands. Earlier in the week, it was spotted in the Ashford Club apartment complex behind Markel’s Trescott Drive home, where it's believed they scouted the area.

After Markel was shot in his garage it was seen backing out of his driveway."

According to maps and what has been written it seems like they went to Premier from the Rodeway Inn. But since LE has not focused on this or how they knew he would be there, it leaves a question

 

[Montrealaise]

And even if his associates, neighbors, NY girlfriend knew his definite schedule, why would they be communicating with G & R? or CA? or DA?
WA was the only one of that crowd that was in communication with him, because of their children.

“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Arthur Conan Doyle

It seems pretty obvious that WA was the source of the information, telling CA and/or DA about DM's schedule and divulging his whereabouts on that fateful day. The only question is, did she do so knowingly - or did she do so inadvertently, in casual conversation with CA or DA?

 

[cvaldez1975]

they exist....

"Markel was speaking to a teacher at the School of Arts and Sciences in Tallahassee about whether his ex-wife had transferred their two sons there without his permission".

WA was really, really determined not to co-parent with her kids' father, wasn't she?

 

[MilNeumMom]

Thank you, whonos...awesome, detailed clarification-!

 

[Deleted member 173651]

I'm confused... I thought that LR and SG knew that Dan would be going to/was at the gym because they had been following him. Maybe I'm missing something.

someone posted discovery documents a while back. listed at least 3 videos from places on west side.
no pings means no calls or texts while in that area. but there are videos.

 

[1&2&3]

Perhaps they turned their phones off when they were in that area.

Phones won't ping if turned off, right.

 

[whonos]

someone posted discovery documents a while back. listed at least 3 videos from places on west side.
no pings means no calls or texts while in that area. but there are videos.

Most of all, LE did not question LR about it in the interview so I doubt it has any significance

 

[whonos]

Perhaps they turned their phones off when they were in that area.

Phones won't ping if turned off, right.

Also, the records do not show any phonecalls to G & R that morning.

 

[whonos]

This is interesting. A battery powered GPS tracking device that has a magnet to stick under a car. Am I reading this correctly? Is it legal to track people without their knowledge?

XtremeTrakGPS™ Portable Live GPS Vehicle and People Tracking Device
iPhone/Smartphone compatible. 8-10 day battery power

It is the company’s #1 best seller

https://www.spygeargadgets.com/xtremetrak-gps-portable-live-gps-vehicle-and-people-tracker.html

 

[whonos]

It seems pretty obvious that WA was the source of the information, telling CA and/or DA about DM's schedule and divulging his whereabouts on that fateful day. The only question is, did she do so knowingly - or did she do so inadvertently, in casual conversation with CA or DA?

Or the "XtremeTrakGPS™ Portable Live GPS Vehicle and People Tracking Device"