GUILTY FL - Dan Markel, 41, FSU Law Professor, Tallahassee, 18 July 2014 - #8 *arrests*

[Deleted member 212413]

I think the jury thinks SG was out of his mind -- a pawn, not a principal. JMO.

Oh God, let’s hope!!

 

[Gardenista]

Bailiff just handed lawyers the next question

 

[oviedo]

I wonder if his parents have been able to see the children? I surely hope for justice for him today. JMO

 

[fred&edna]

I think I will be creating a tag/status line for myself... Juries scare the hell outta me.

 

[Weki]

Zangeneh finally makes a good point. Based on previous questions, the jury seems to suggest with their questions that the plan was different than what was committed. Where the heck are they getting that idea from though?

 

[YESorNO]

Aaron Keller‏ @AKellerLawCrime 10m10 minutes ago
Replying to @SchreezLife @bexisodes and 3 others
With this many questions about the same topic, I'm of the opinion that the state did not do a clear enough job explaining the concept during closings.


Linda Kenney Baden‏ @KenneyBaden 3m3 minutes ago
Replying to @AKellerLawCrime @cathyrusson and
Yup. They or ONE are confused as to whether the person who arranges the hit for hire is a principal, may also be a problem in the instructions to begin with.

 

[Gardenista]

Oh lawd, questions about hung juries

 

[Weki]

Oh no....they're hung on one defendant!! Wow. This is so disappointing!

eta: And that defendant is likely to be KM!

 

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Jada E. Williams‏ @JadaEWilliams 2m2 minutes ago
Judge says they're guessing what the jurors are asking and he doesn't want to do that. He proposes telling them there are no exceptions or exemptions to an individual being a principal act and to clarify the second portion of the question. #MarkelMurderTrialWTXL @abc27


Karl Etters‏Verified account @KarlEtters 2m2 minutes ago
But a second part to the same question is whether principal theory can be applied to ANY crime. Defense is arguing that it must be considered in relation to the indictment. "If one crime was planned then another crime happened are you a principal?" Garcia's attorney said

 

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Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 50s51 seconds ago
#MarkelMurder - NEW QUESTION: If we have a hung jury on one person can we give a verdict on another?


Karl Etters‏Verified account @KarlEtters 2m2 minutes ago
Second question: "If we have a hung jury on person can we give a verdict on another? IF we have a hung jury on count can we give a verdict on another count?"

 

[Gardenista]

Well, I guess better hung than NG.

 

[YESorNO]

Jada E. Williams‏ @JadaEWilliams 2m2 minutes ago
other question: If we have a hung jury on one person, can we give a verdict on the other person. a follow up question: If we have a hung jury on a count, can we give a verdict on another count? #MarkelMurderTrialWTXL @abc27


Julie Montanaro WCTV‏Verified account @JulieMontanaroW 2m2 minutes ago
Jury asking what to do if they have a hung jury on one person and not the other, and can decide on one count but not another @WCTV


Jada E. Williams‏ @JadaEWilliams 42s43 seconds ago
judge says answer to the first portion is yes and doesn't need any other info. answer to second is also yes. #MarkelMurderTrialWTXL @abc27

 

[TTF14]

So what happens if SG is Guilty on all three counts and KM is guilty on two and hung on the third?

 

[Weki]

This jury doesn't want to be sequestered and deliberate over the weekend and they're going to give up early so they can go home!

 

[Gardenista]

This jury doesn't want to be sequestered and deliberate over the weekend and they're going to give up early so they can go home!

Yup. Whatever it is, I think we will have a verdict soon.

 

[YESorNO]

Karl Etters‏Verified account @KarlEtters 2m2 minutes ago
A clearly confused jury. Hankinson says yes, both are possibilities


Karl Etters‏Verified account @KarlEtters 41s41 seconds ago
Hankinson also isn't one to go for a hung jury after 8 hours of deliberation. He'll tell them to keep working


Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 57s58 seconds ago
#MarkelMurder - Sounds like they are hung relating to Magbanua

 

[Gardenista]

Except for this:

Karl Etters
@KarlEtters

Hankinson also isn't one to go for a hung jury after 8 hours of deliberation. He'll tell them to keep working

 

[FortheDefense]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the judge hasn’t yet given the jury an Allen charge?

 

[Weki]

So they could think that there isn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Katie was involved pre-murder. The evidence against Katie is post-murder. The money and the wiretaps. Idk. I'm just trying to think where they could be hung up on. But I'm already putting this jury on my s*** list. They had one job to do! Come on. This was easy!

 

[dotr]

Every time there is a knock on the court door, this song comes to mind!