October 7, morning, start listening at 3:22:30
Charlie says that he is more worried about the older child poking the younger one's eye out than Donna getting arrested. Charlie then says that the older child "doesn't listen to anyone because no one wants to lay down the law with him". Donna says, "That's being worked on". Sounds like the children are really suffering, and that was before things
really took a downturn for the Adelsons... My heart goes out to those poor children who lost the benefit of the loving and enriching environment their father provided for them, and of course, his good guidance.