GUILTY FL - Dan Markel, 41, FSU Law Professor, Tallahassee, 18 July 2014 *arrests* #12

[Deleted member 302228]

But he wasn't at the scene of the crime.

Down here, Mark Sievers was charged with death penalty for a murder-for-hire, so unless there is some difference up in N FL, they could charge CA with it. Maybe they decided not to.

 

[Carol1953]

Down here, Mark Sievers was charged with death penalty for a murder-for-hire, so unless there is some difference up in N FL, they could charge CA with it. Maybe they decided not to.

Has that decision been made already, i.e. not to charge CA with death penalty?

 

[TrialLurking]

Any thoughts on when CA will go to trial? They don't seem to be moving very quickly on this case despite having everything needed to convict. Based on KM trial, they presented a more convincing case for CA than KM.

 

[Deleted member 302228]

Jason from Justice for Dan said he expected a trial in a few months.

 

[Niner]

Jason from Justice for Dan said he expected a trial in a few months.

Thanks! for that info. Wondering if he has any hearings lined up yet? @montegrl - anything? TIA!

 

[dotr]

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[clearskies1]

Thanks! for that info. Wondering if he has any hearings lined up yet? @montegrl - anything? TIA!

Just saw this: Case Management Conference set for July 29, 2022 at 9am. https://cvweb.leonclerk.com/public/...scaseid=1129969&defseq=B&chargeseq=1&secret=1

 

[SeesSeas]

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[clearskies1]

Has that decision been made already, i.e. not to charge CA with death penalty?

It seems 45 days has passed since his arraignment, but I'm not sure. I don't see a notice of intent to seek the death penalty filed with the court.

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[TTF14]

Just saw this: Case Management Conference set for July 29, 2022 at 9am. https://cvweb.leonclerk.com/public/...scaseid=1129969&defseq=B&chargeseq=1&secret=1

Same day, time, and courtroom as Katie's sentencing? Any thoughts on that?

Magbanua to be sentenced July 29 in Dan Markel murder

Katherine Magbanua's sentencing hearing is now set for July 29, the same day as co-defendant Charlie Adelson's first case management hearing.

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"Court records show the sentencing hearing is set at the same time, day and courtroom as a case management hearing for newly arrested co-defendant Charlie Adelson."

 

[Niner]

Same day, time, and courtroom as Katie's sentencing? Any thoughts on that?

Magbanua to be sentenced July 29 in Dan Markel murder

Katherine Magbanua's sentencing hearing is now set for July 29, the same day as co-defendant Charlie Adelson's first case management hearing.

www.wctv.tv

"Court records show the sentencing hearing is set at the same time, day and courtroom as a case management hearing for newly arrested co-defendant Charlie Adelson."

Oh thanks -Ii didn't have her sentencing date yet! What time are the hearings, if you know? TIA!

 

[TTF14]

Oh thanks -Ii didn't have her sentencing date yet! What time are the hearings, if you know? TIA!

I'm assuming 9AM since the article says it is the same time as Charlie's hearing. But, the article doesn't specifically say 9AM.

 

[clearskies1]

I'm assuming 9AM since the article says it is the same time as Charlie's hearing. But, the article doesn't specifically say 9AM.

Yes, KM's sentencing hearing is set for 9am.

https://cvweb.leonclerk.com/public/online_services/search_courts/process.asp?report=full_view&caseid=2785598&jiscaseid=1129969&defseq=A&chargeseq=1&secret=1

 

[Niner]

Yes, KM's sentencing hearing is set for 9am.

https://cvweb.leonclerk.com/public/online_services/search_courts/process.asp?report=full_view&caseid=2785598&jiscaseid=1129969&defseq=A&chargeseq=1&secret=1

Thank you ! And thanks @TTF14 ! I do remember seeing 9am for Charles...

 

[KidonGadol]

But he wasn't at the scene of the crime.

KM was not at the scene of the crime and she was charged with capital murder. Her arrest warrant is all over this site. The state simply did not elect to pursue the D penalty in her case in the first trial.

A parallel case of a hired hit on a family member in FL :
Mark Sievers , FL , execution of his wife using hitmen was charged as a capital felony case and he's now on death row. No appeals. All thrown out. And of course he was not at the scene of the crime -his hirelings were. One big difference in that case is that one of the murderers did a plea deal and testified against Sievers. The second difference is that Sievers stood to get a big life insurance pay out . MS had no previous felonies against him.

back to CJA -
If you have first degree murder and this as well “The capital felony was a homicide and was committed in a cold, calculated, and premeditated manner without any pretense of moral or legal justification.”


Well Dan's Murder was certainly premeditated and CJA is charged with a first degree murder count . Two hit men went up to Nth FL to carry out the murder twice -that's a hell of a lot of premeditation over a two month period. There is evidence that the killers had some details of his travel itinerary via KM and where did she get it from given that she has not one recorded call to/from WJA ? of course that's no proof that CJA handed it on.

Rivera has also alleged that they got an advance for the first trip but that was not ever tested in court (it's more or less hearsay as S. Garcia would have received it). I have added an attachment from the Mentour lawyer site. This is part of the Grand Jury indictment of CJA (dear old KM is thrown in to the charge sheet for good measure - the state can't get enough of Katie, they've had her in Jail for six and half years, are going to give her LWOP and now they are going to charge her again as a co defendant . It's nice to be famous sometimes).

I can't put the Indictment of CJA in one jpeg or it will be illegible and you can got find the exact same file on youtube as I did.

The indictment does not contain any probable cause statement or even a few paragraphs describing the details of the crime.

Summary - CJA qualifies for a death penalty prospect trial under FL law but given the somewhat garbled recordings, not much direct evidence, nobody to testify against him directly at the moment (KM) and the fact he would get not financial benefit from the murder, I don't think the state will risk a mistrial over the death versus LWOP issue.

THe state is probably either holding off presenting a probable cause statement to the court until KM is sentenced or has one but it is sealed. This all seems a bit unfair to the defendant in terms of preparation for the case but his lawyers do know what the basic charges are.

Does anyone know if CJA has been formally arraigned before a judge since his arrest ?

 

[Bongo]

Is Wendi the Golden Child, which is also transferred to her kids. And CA is the scapegoat!? What a strange family! CA seems to be wholly motivated by what his mamma wants! Enough to commit murder. It’s insane that he would do this just to get DA’s approval.

Yes and he got caught up in the mean girls club with Wendi and Donna and hating Dan became their pasttime.

 

[TTF14]

A few days ago I was watching an episode of 60 Minutes Australia on YouTube. It was about child abuse in youth detention centers in Tasmania. The whistleblower relayed a story about the facility manager telling a child if he didn't behave he was going to "turn him into an owl." When she asked what that meant, he said "I'm gonna cave his face in."

Rember the owl in the tree (pic) and Wendi's owl T-shirt on the day of the murder? And how Dan was shot in the face?

 

[vislaw]

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Does anyone know if CJA has been formally arraigned before a judge since his arrest ?

I believe Charlie was indicted by a grand jury and, thus, the state does not have to go through the arraignment process with proof of probable cause.

 

[AlferdPacker]

Summary - CJA qualifies for a death penalty prospect trial under FL law but given the somewhat garbled recordings, not much direct evidence, nobody to testify against him directly at the moment (KM) and the fact he would get not financial benefit from the murder, I don't think the state will risk a mistrial over the death versus LWOP issue.

THe state is probably either holding off presenting a probable cause statement to the court until KM is sentenced or has one but it is sealed. This all seems a bit unfair to the defendant in terms of preparation for the case but his lawyers do know what the basic charges are.

Does anyone know if CJA has been formally arraigned before a judge since his arrest ?

Just so everyone is clear-
1. There won't be a probable cause released, ever, because a Grand Jury indicted CA.
2. CA was arraigned after arrest as required by law.
3. @KidonGadol, you have the argument about the death penalty backwards here IMHO. Filing the death penalty against CA would not increase his chance of a mistrial. Death penalty-qualified juries are more likely to convict. As far as the evidence, juries reach a decision about guilt or innocence and THEN go to the penalty phase. Sigfredo Garcia was convicted, but the jury declined to enforce the death penalty.

 

[serifina]

Anyone know where K. Magbanua is now? Cant find her in the inmate portal for Leon county