GUILTY FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen 18 July 2014 - *5 Guilty* #28

[Going Rogue]

Any inculpatory evidence that the state had against Wendi would have to be turned over to each of the defense teams in all the trials so far. Every single defendant would have a right to that evidence so they can frame their defense to point at Wendi if they chose. So unless new evidence comes in after Donna’s trial we’ve seen all the evidence against Wendi. Is it possible defense teams chose not to use any inculpatory evidence against Wendi? Sure…but doubtful.

Regarding YouTube personalities, yeah, it’s all about clicks. It’s all about creating drama and injustice narrative to keep viewers enraged and tense so they keep coming back, Even the established trial channels like Law and Crime are now shamelessly using clickbait à la “shocking twist in Florida case” etc. The shocking twist? Defendants will be tried separately. That’s it. It’s the attention economy. Viewer beware.

Yes, any exculpatory or inculpatory evidence for or against Wendi should have been turned over during discovery in the prior trials. There’s no secret stash of undisclosed evidence, as some on social media seem to believe. Where things may be murky is in how much of that material has actually been contextualized and understood by the public. Discovery doesn’t automatically mean the evidence has been aired or meaningfully examined beyond what was relevant to the defendants who were actually on trial – especially considering the sheer volume of discovery each defense team has had to review. Things can also have been missed.

It’s entirely possible the existing material has never been analyzed in full detail through the lens of a potential case against Wendi herself. The size of the TV is a good example. Until Fulford’s comment in Wendi’s cross‑examination about it being 55 inches, most people believed it was a small, cheap, throwaway TV that no one would have bothered repairing - a point that may now need to be revisited. I think Wendi would agree that ‘size matters’.

On the YouTube side, I completely agree… it’s driven by engagement and revenue. That financial incentive makes balanced, objective voices even more important. Sensational narratives might attract clicks, but they also risk distorting how the public interprets the available evidence and the realistic prospects of prosecution.

 

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Re Youtubers, perhaps we will all look at them now through a more cynical lens now. Most of them have been wrong, including very qualified "legal" Youtubers and guests.

 

[Zedzded]

It saddens me that, with each passing day, the chances of Wendi Adelson being held accountable seem to grow more remote. I’m not entirely sure why I feel so invested in this case I don’t usually follow other serious crimes beyond a passing interest.

Perhaps it’s the psychological complexity, or the legal aspects, particularly the evidentiary issues, that draw me in. I think part of the reason I’m studying law (finishing next year)* is a strong sense of justice. As cliché as it sounds, there is a lot of injustice in the world, and maybe that’s why this case resonates with me.

Hopefully, one day, we will see justice served.

*Note we don't study evidence till next year!

 

[Going Rogue]

Re Youtubers, perhaps we will all look at them now through a more cynical lens now. Most of them have been wrong, including very qualified "legal" Youtubers and guests.

YouTube creators making wrong predictions isn’t the problem – their extreme, profit-driven bias is. IMO, objectively, the public evidence against Wendi simply does not meet the legal burden of proof. I’ve been saying that for years, but creators and their ‘best guests’ know that admitting this legal reality is bad for their channels and will undoubtedly trigger mob backlash – just ask Tim Jansen. This creates an effect where honest legal analysis is silenced. Content creators know the algorithm rewards sensationalism, and churning out the same redundant narratives about how evil and guilty Wendi is, is the best way to grow their channels. Instead of objective analysis, these channels intentionally blur moral outrage with legal guilt to feed their viewers' thirst for content that validates any of the mainstream narratives.

 

[Weki]

YouTube creators making wrong predictions isn’t the problem – their extreme, profit-driven bias is. IMO, objectively, the public evidence against Wendi simply does not meet the legal burden of proof. I’ve been saying that for years, but creators and their ‘best guests’ know that admitting this legal reality is bad for their channels and will undoubtedly trigger mob backlash – just ask Tim Jansen. This creates an effect where honest legal analysis is silenced. Content creators know the algorithm rewards sensationalism, and churning out the same redundant narratives about how evil and guilty Wendi is, is the best way to grow their channels. Instead of objective analysis, these channels intentionally blur moral outrage with legal guilt to feed their viewers' thirst for content that validates any of the mainstream narratives.

People see the bias in mainstream media but don't think bias exists in their fave "content creators." Before all these so-called content creators got involved, there wasn't this distorted narrative about this case especially as it relates to Wendi and her involvement. The narrative was unfolding and discussed as the evidence came in. This whole Wendi is the mastermind narrative didn't start until the YouTubers jumped on. I was there from the beginning and saw it unfurl.

 

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This creates an effect where honest legal analysis is silenced.

I think you're right. "Wendi will be arrested by "insert date here"" generated income for many youtubers.

 

[LinasK]

I don’t know how big dorm rooms are at FSU but a 55 inch TV in a dorm room sounds crazy to me. Or maybe he meant in the common/living room? Some dorms are set up that way. I suppose it’s possible, but it’s not the first thing that pops in your head. It’s a curious description by him if this TV was indeed 55 inches. It’s a respectable size for any living room.

Yes, but wouldn't he have stated it that way then- dorm lounge area TV rather than dorm room? I agree with you that most dorm rooms aren't big enough to accomdate a 55* TV- my husband had to build a special shelf for ours to fit on the stand we have. And I have seen lots of dorm rooms when my daughter was touring colleges.

 

[LinasK]

I find it interesting that no one knows for sure how the screen was broken. I recall ASSumptions that one of the Markel kids did something/threw something. I often wondered if one of the kids remembers coming home to a broken TV or throwing a toy that hit it. If it happened in my house, I’d remember how it happened.
JM bumbling thoughts….

IMO, Wendy threw a brick at it because she needed an alibi. Throwing the kids under the bus to blame them for it being broken.

 

[Weki]

@Going Rogue I don't know if you're aware of the Tracey Grist trial that's on-going right now. It's a Utah case. It is a perfect parallel universe of what many have vociferously argued were the dynamics of Wendi's role in Dan's murder. Someone commented under one of the YouTubve videos that the Grists are the trailer park version of the Adelsons. Ha! In the Grist case, the facts are so very clear about the wife's role, and it's a glaring contrast to what we know about Wendi's role. There are many texts in the Grist case with the wife moaning and whining to her mother about what a mean, bad man her husband has been and how desperate she is to get out. The wife very clearly sets up the husband to come over to her mom's house to be shot by her brother. It is all there in black and white. The contrast is quite interesting, I think.

JMO

 

[Going Rogue]

@Going Rogue I don't know if you're aware of the Tracey Grist trial that's on-going right now. It's a Utah case. It is a perfect parallel universe of what many have vociferously argued were the dynamics of Wendi's role in Dan's murder. Someone commented under one of the YouTubve videos that the Grists are the trailer park version of the Adelsons. Ha! In the Grist case, the facts are so very clear about the wife's role, and it's a glaring contrast to what we know about Wendi's role. There are many texts in the Grist case with the wife moaning and whining to her mother about what a mean, bad man her husband has been and how desperate she is to get out. The wife very clearly sets up the husband to come over to her mom's house to be shot by her brother. It is all there in black and white. The contrast is quite interesting, I think.

JMO

Yes, I’m familiar with that case. Tracey was obsessed with the Dan Markel case… the investigators found multiple searches in her search history about Donna Adelson and the case in general. You’d think that someone who followed that case would understand how reckless it is to leave the kind of digital footprint she and her daughter left behind.

I get why people draw parallels between the two cases. Both were situations where a family conspired to murder the husband (or ex-husband) of their daughter or sibling over custody. As far as the evidence against the wife/ex-wife - that’s where the parallels stop… it’s not even close. Tracey’s daughter took the plea deal because the evidence against her was overwhelming. Carl S should have covered that case instead of the Adelson case… he could have easily rolled off 125 indicators of guilt on the daughter without making so many sweeping assumptions.

I haven’t heard any updates on the Wendi arrest tracker – have any of the gurus set the next timeline? LOL, I will never understand how people bought what some of the ‘experts’ were selling.

 

[Weki]

Yes, I’m familiar with that case. Tracey was obsessed with the Dan Markel case… the investigators found multiple searches in her search history about Donna Adelson and the case in general. You’d think that someone who followed that case would understand how reckless it is to leave the kind of digital footprint she and her daughter left behind.

I get why people draw parallels between the two cases. Both were situations where a family conspired to murder the husband (or ex-husband) of their daughter or sibling over custody. As far as the evidence against the wife/ex-wife - that’s where the parallels stop… it’s not even close. Tracey’s daughter took the plea deal because the evidence against her was overwhelming. Carl S should have covered that case instead of the Adelson case… he could have easily rolled off 125 indicators of guilt on the daughter without making so many sweeping assumptions.

I haven’t heard any updates on the Wendi arrest tracker – have any of the gurus set the next timeline? LOL, I will never understand how people bought what some of the ‘experts’ were selling.

Donna was arrested in November 2023. The Grist murder plan was carried out in July 2024.

So I’m assuming Mamma Grist knew Donna didn’t get away with it and proceeded with this Temu murder plan anyway?? Smh

 

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Temu murder plan anyway??

lol