FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen *3 guilty* #16

[alexwood]

With his busy practice, when did he find time to branch out . . . say, into personal photography -- self portraits -- on his phone? A true Renaissance Man.

It really is too bad there aren’t dentists on the jury. I’m not a dentist, but even I thought that was strange. It’s just not done. Why would a dentist not have an office. It’s like being a traveling cardiologist and going into doctors’ offices.

How often does he see his son, I wonder? Also, the jury know knows he had a son after the arrests, after the bump, and when he knew his family was under suspicion. That, to me (JMO), is reprehensible. That poor boy.

Good points. He said his son is five years old now.

 

[alexwood]

I hope somebody asks him why his Mom and Dad are not there. Am sure he'll cite poor health as the reason.

Is the practice closed -- or sold now? Otherwise, they are probably still working away at the office. Someone's got to pay the legal fees.

 

[Mariposa]

Oh it looks like Mentour Lawyer published Katie’s proffer on YouTube for free. I can’t stand to listen to her poor me act! I have zero empathy for this woman. I’m sorry but she’s trying to salvage her rep and still acting like an innocent little lamb. It’s so frustrating to listen to her trying to minimize her role. I ain’t buying’ it! Like I suspected her primary concern is her reputation/everybody knowing what she did!

She was such a fool for not taking a deal long ago. If she thought she was protecting SG, he was already sunk by a mountain of other evidence. The crystal clear ATM photo of him and LR in the murder Prius for just one example.

 

[amicuscurie]

There are a lot of tapes and texts during the divorce and after the murder where he discusses the sister with the mother in depth. Is the jury supposed to forget this?

 

[amicuscurie]

Is the practice closed -- or sold now? Otherwise, they are probably still working away at the office. Someone's got to pay the legal fees.

Closed. possibly sold. Harvey is no longer practicing.

 

[amicuscurie]

Georgia and Sarah look pretty calm and unfazed.

so, he thought Dan was a good father. And (allegedly) he had him killed.

He‘s starting to talk more. I predict it’s going to get worse. “And so I said to Wendi, listen….” Like he talks.

ETA- he has admitted to a “telephone game,” Wendi would call Donna, Donna would call him, etc. This sounds familiar.

His testimony is mirroring Wendi’s so far. If he doesn’t offer any more than she did, I don’t think it’s that great for his case. I didn’t think hers was.

 

[Mariposa]

He bought the practice from his father, in 2012 -- then sold it back to him in 2014 . . . because he was too busy with his traveling periodontics practice -- I envision one of those van trucks, like mobile pet groomers use to travel to their customers' homes.

Remember one of DA’s badgering emails to WA about the divorce case, she went on and on by how business income was down at the practice because DA and HA were having to devote so much time to supporting waif WA. And how that was so unfair to CA as he had just purchased the practice from HA.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Closed. possibly sold. Harvey is no longer practicing.

Right, CA said earlier his father retired 2 years ago

 

[userunnamed]

He bought the practice from his father, in 2012 -- then sold it back to him in 2014 . . . because he was too busy with his traveling periodontics practice -- I envision one of those van trucks, like mobile pet groomers use to travel to their customers' homes.

LOL never thought of it like that with the mobile pet groomer!

 

[amicuscurie]

Remember one of DA’s badgering emails to WA about the divorce case, she went on and on by how business income was down at the practice because DA and HA were having to devote so much time to supporting waif WA. And how that was so unfair to CA as he had just purchased the practice from HA.

Yep. That’s some big support for the idea that the relocation meant as much, or more, to Donna as Wendi. That’s why all this stuff about how Wendi never really thought that motion would win, is not persuasive, to me.

 

[amicuscurie]

Oh, so they tried being nice to Dan, but that didn’t work, so they had to do something not so nice…that sounds familiar.

So much of what he is saying, to me, confirms the state’s case. Much is going to depend on how convincing he is describing the extortion, how Katie came to him, how scared he was. I want to see how he does that.

ETA- if he’s making more money than his parents, why does he have to go to Donna? And for $400 a week? He didn’t have $400 a week?

Has the state ever commented on how little money that was? It still bothers me that the (alleged) insurance scam with Katie wasn’t developed by the state.

 

[Marysmith]

Remember one of DA’s badgering emails to WA about the divorce case, she went on and on by how business income was down at the practice because DA and HA were having to devote so much time to supporting waif WA. And how that was so unfair to CA as he had just purchased the practice from HA.

Why were they so involved and invested in her divorce?! It’s just so bizarre. Just get divorced like half of the rest of the world and move on with your life!

 

[alexwood]

Oh, so they tried being nice to Dan, but that didn’t work, so they had to do something not so nice…that sounds familiar.

So much of what he is saying, to me, confirms the state’s case. Much is going to depend on how convincing he is describing the extortion, how Katie came to him, how scared he was. I want to see how he does that.

Right . . . then they tried killing him with kindness!

 

[amicuscurie]

He’s lying now about talking to Katie About the million dollars. He’s looking around, blinking, and his voice falters. (JMO, I don’t know this)

 

[alexwood]

Why does the TV (or TVs) keep coming up? One to Wendi? Another to Katie?
ETA: Oh, never mind -- I just concentrated for one second on his testimony and got my answer.

 

[Marysmith]

“When Wendi was starting out”… yes, poor single mother with hundreds of thousands in the bank… who stole her husband’s family heirloom and cleaned out their home behind his back. I cannot.

 

[alexwood]

“When Wendi was starting out”… yes, poor single mother with hundreds of thousands in the bank… who stole her husband’s family heirloom and cleaned out their home behind his back. I cannot.

What was the family heirloom? I either forgot, or never knew about it.

 

[amicuscurie]

They didn’t show his face when he answered that he’d never looked into hiring a hit man. Would have liked to see if he blinked or showed signs of deception. People do things when they lie, even if you’re not aware of what they are, you might get a gut feeling the person is being deceptive. At least, the jury got to see it.

 

[amicuscurie]

What was the family heirloom? I either forgot, or never knew about it.

A ring the family had managed to hold onto after the Holocaust. Allegedly she took it and didn’t give it back. It might have been her engagement ring.

 

[cottonweaver]

He’s lying now about talking to Katie About the million dollars. He’s looking around, blinking, and his voice falters. (JMO, I don’t know this)

and his right upper arm flaps (similar to a shoulder shrug which he's suppressing)