FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #27

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My rebuttal to this: we haven’t seen all the evidence yet. The prosecution has more, and there was a LOT left out of Donna’s trial due to relevance and time. The state has a Mt. Everest mountain of evidence to parse through and present relative to the person being charged.

I will agree, Wendi’s case will be the toughest to prosecute, however, GC prosecutes murder trials with methodical precision. She is literally an FSU champion trial coach that prosecutes many other murders, not just the Adelsons.

We did not come all this way to stop with Donna. Even in the event of a hung jury or mistrial, Georgia is not going to take her flowers and hang up her red suit, IMO, she will take things all the way until Wendi is acquitted or the case is dismissed with prejudice and there’s 0 chance of retrying her.

When Wendi said “The state isn’t going to arrest me” with that little chuckle on the stand in Katie’s trial, Georgia smirked in response and I’d bet money she thought “Not yet, but stay tuned” as she’s said recently and after Charlie was convicted.
GC may arrest her on a lesser charge that will convict her of something. Given what is known publicly and what may be known privately are two different things. IMO, this is not over for either WA or HA
 
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Is DA expected to appeal the verdict? (Do all convicted murderers appeal, or does it just seem so?)
100% yes, all Murder 1 verdicts are appealed and why not? She'll have 30 days after sentencing to file a Notice of Appeal, indicating that an appeal will be forthcoming.
 
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She got the opposite things that she killed for. Not only did she lose that battle but she is in jail until she dies.

“Spaghetti and Mashed Potatoes”
That’s the horrible menu item that she mentioned. Carbs and more carbs, no protein!
Am I imagining that she complaining about how the boys didn't really have time for her now that they were teenagers? I guess that she didn't take into account that murdering their father would actually only give her a few choice years with her grandsons, no matter what.

I just hope that they have seen what a controlling shrew she really is. I mean, they are boys, and they are teenagers. If they are anything like our grandchildren, besides school, they are in all sorts of sports and friends and really don't have a lot of extra time to just sit and focus on Granny.

This entire situation is just so tragic for so many all due to the selfishness of the mother. To me, that's where it all starts. WA got the ball rolling.

JMO.
 
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This YouTuber excitedly ran the TikTok video with her commentary. An impressive young juror once you see past the ebullience.

Just an aside here in this picture or others. As a retired hairdresser of 26 yrs, I could not get past or help but notice DAs grey hair and the once upon a time dark blond hair on the tips of her hair. Hair grows approx 1/2 inch per month so seeing that was a time line of her missing her regular hair appts...tsk. Guess she couldn't get hair color from the commissary or one of her prison daughters to apply it for her. A DIVA no more.
 
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Am I imagining that she complaining about how the boys didn't really have time for her now that they were teenagers? I guess that she didn't take into account that murdering their father would actually only give her a few choice years with her grandsons, no matter what.

I just hope that they have seen what a controlling shrew she really is. I mean, they are boys, and they are teenagers. If they are anything like our grandchildren, besides school, they are in all sorts of sports and friends and really don't have a lot of extra time to just sit and focus on Granny.

This entire situation is just so tragic for so many all due to the selfishness of the mother. To me, that's where it all starts. WA got the ball rolling.

JMO.
Imo it’s more like Wendi not needing her. To babysit while she had her weekends to herself to date, travel etc.
Donnas control over the boys was over. And thus her control over Wendi.
As long as Wendi needed her, she had control through the boys.
 
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I just had a useless thought, but here goes. Why were VI statements done on verdict day? I thought they came on sentencing day? And boo hoo that DA needed time before being sentenced. The judge was ready to go.
The Markels wanted to have their say and return to Canada
 
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Any weapon which could link you to a murder has a very negative net value. It was surely discarded, and quickly. Exactly as Rivera said.
Was thinking this too @opt . And fully agree. And then my mind went slant on me and I pondered something else. Now I’m not a firearms individual……. having said that…..

I was wondering if the perspective on what to do with it might differ if for example, it was paid for with someone else’s ‘dime’ or monies? And for their crime? And say if they did get away with the crime, and later wanted the gun for ‘insurance’, say if the engaging parties didn’t pay up fully…… or one decided they wanted additional monies?

IDK. While it might have been discarded, maybe someone knows more about that….. or where it resides? That is if it wasn’t destroyed. MOO
 
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Is DA expected to appeal the verdict? (Do all convicted murderers appeal, or does it just seem so?)

What is the tea on WA seeing other men when she was with JL? Is this known to be the case? If so, is it mentioned to indicate her lack of character? Did JL say that she had a bruised behind after one of her trips?
For the whole story on WA's, um, social activities, watch JL's unredacted police interview on YT. It is very interesting and sheds a lot of light on WA and the Adelsons .JL unredacted police interview
 
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Theres something thats been bugging me for awhile.

In Luis first interview with Isom and Sanford, he stated that he got 5K on the first trip to Tallahassee.
(Interesting number!)
He went on to say how they went to Hooter, had some “powder” , drank etc.
He said this money was from Katie when asked by Isom.

When Katie was asked if the guys got any money before going up, she said “a couple of hundred”. Not sure if this was the first trip.

We know that there was a dinner at Yardbird where some think Wendi gave Katie money. Never confirmed at trial. I believe it was determined this money wasn't stapled.

Luis also said that the money was from ‘the lady”. He always seemed to refer to this lady as Wendi.

Wondering if Georgia is purposely keeping this info for Wendi’s trial.
Any thoughts?
 
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Imo it’s more like Wendi not needing her. To babysit while she had her weekends to herself to date, travel etc.
Donnas control over the boys was over. And this her control over Wendi.
As long as Wendi needed her, she had control through the boys.
Also, I assume Donna expected Wendi to be indebted for life. I mean, after all, look what they did for HER...

JMO.
 
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She was holding a camera so maybe a photographer with credentials
I noticed this outfit too...very unusual attire for what appears to be an official court photographer.
 
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Also, I assume Donna expected Wendi to be indebted for life. I mean, after all, look what they did for HER...

JMO.
Right, Donna definitely hinted that Wendi “owed” her.
Donna was “taken” and “used” by Wendi. Probably didn’t expect that.
 
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She'll have 30 days after sentencing to file a Notice of Appeal, indicating that an appeal will be forthcoming.
It's hard to imagine a more unappealing appellant.
 
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Theres something thats been bugging me for awhile.

In Luis first interview with Isom and Sanford, he stated that he got 5K on the first trip to Tallahassee.
He went on to say how they went to Hooter, had some “powder” , drank etc.
He said this money was from Katie when asked by Isom.

When Katie was asked if the guys got any money before going up, she said “a couple of hundred”. Not sure if this was the first trip.

We know that there was a dinner at Yardbird where some think Wendi gave Katie money. Never confirmed at trial. I believe it was determined this money wasn't stapled.

Luis also said that the money was from ‘the lady”. He always seemed to refer to this lady as Wendi.

Wondering if Georgia is purposely keeping this info for Wendi’s trial.
Any thoughts?
I have to think there is a lot more than is being saved for the Wendi trial...lots more. Donna's case was very strong...even better than Charlie and I think Wendi's case will be even better. However I think the state will be up against a much stronger defense team.
 
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I have to think there is a lot more than is being saved for the Wendi trial...lots more. Donna's case was very strong...even better than Charlie and I think Wendi's case will be even better. However I think the state will be up against a much stronger defense team.
If there is any information supporting Wendi giving Katie money….
I do think (and I’d have to review so as not to give false info) Georgia asked Jeffrey if there was a money exchange at Yardbird. I do think he said no.
Maybe someone else remembers.
The 5K Luis mentioned was never dealt with specifically at the trials.
Ex: Georgia could have mentioned Luis interview with Isom and asked “So did Katie tell you where she got the 5K”?

That seemed to be the “down payment” imo for the hit and makes sense.
Seems Luis always refers to payment from ‘the lady”
We will have to see!
 
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I think there may have been a brief period of time when Wendi was ready to give up fighting with Dan and settle in Tallahassee permanently. She was about to buy a house there in, I believe, the autumn of 2013.

But then her mom and brother talked her out of it. What did they say to her? Could that be when the idea of the assassination first came up? Donna's attorneys made the claim that in the end the divorce wasn't contentious and Wendi stipulated to the relocation motion being denied with prejudice. I think by then the Adelson's didn't care about that, because they knew that if they lost that motion, there was a plan B ready to go.

Certainly by the time Dan was killed, Wendi was no longer "accepting" that she would remain in Tallahassee. Within two days she was permanently back in Miami enrolling her kids in their new schools. Whether or not she was all packed up before Dan's murder, she was clearly mentally ready to bolt ASAP.
What if for no other reason than -- that she didn't stop what she had to know was being planned or about to happen -- That to me is also part of the conspiracy. Liken it to a get away driver in a crime. You knew what was about to happen so you are guilty of at least a lesser charge. Happens all the time.
 
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I avoided watching the forewoman’s TikTok video because of all the negative feedback I read, but I finally just watched it with one eye open. Lol. She’s not as bad as I thought. She’s obviously in her 20s and she’s also, reportedly, a mom of 2. There’s no shame in being young. I thought it was cute when she explained how she ended up as the foreperson. All the older jurors didn’t rise to the occasion (how ironic that all the “mature” jurors avoided the responsibility) but here she was actually interested in the position because she didn’t want someone to take the jury “in a million different directions.” That was shrewd of her. And perhaps she’s the reason the deliberations were orderly and efficient.

It’s normal for her to be excited and wanting to share on social media. It’s a generational thing and I don’t fault her for that. I’m confused why the J4D community is feeling so negatively towards this woman when it embraces many of the podcasters on this case who have been spreading misinformation, speculation and inanity about this case. We have seen all kinds of tackiness from all these podcasters for the last 2-3 years, and yet they all get views and tons of support from this community.

She was also careful to point out several times that she and the jury followed the instructions and the law. That shows she’s aware of the pitfalls of jurors speaking out publicly.

JMO
 
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She had been smacked on the bum during sex on a work trip. I believe from what JL has said she had been unfaithful multiple times. She had been on a dating app whilst seeing JL. SY also stated in her deposition she had multiple men on the go at the same time.

I'm not sure how this can be brought up as relevant though.
Though JL had some useful info to share, IMO, he seems to have an agenda. Maybe a jilted lover?? Possibly one of many??
 
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