FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #27

[ShadyLady]

RE - "dismissed with prejudice." In other words the judge had ruled this was the end of the matter, there would be no further hearings regarding relocation. WA was cognisant of this, yet she did not inform her mother of this when the hearing was completed (DA was outside in the waiting room).

In fact she never informed DA or HA of this ever and allowed them to carry on thinking she still potentially could be granted relocation rights at a further hearing. Which was not true. This resulted in DA sending more and more vitriolic emails, regarding relocation as well as her thoughts on Dan, which were becoming increasingly more venomous.

So as a few people have pointed out, perhaps WA was, ultimately, the mastermind. She painted out Dan to be this abusive monster, lied about his behaviour and lied about the relocation. This fostered a deep hatred amongst her family for Dan and perhaps was the catalyst for them to plot the murder which WA all too willingly agreed to.

I have thought for some time Wendy was the primary driver. And the ex boyfriend's police interview confirmed it for me. Not a nice person, plays the victim. Wendy got what she wanted, and her family were turned into tools. And she covered her tracks pretty good except for visiting the crime scene!

So I find all her mannerisms turning her head back and forth "innocently", soft voice and eyes...all acting. Like Donna told her, she knows how to act.

 

[ShadyLady]

The Motions by both Wendi and Dan had become over the top, frustrating the court. While witnesses were waiting outside, the court shockingly interrupted the proceedings and refused to hear the full arguments by the parties and required them to agree to the stipulated order with prejudice-- ending the question of relocation once and for all.

Perhaps shocked and embarrassed by the Court calling the couple out on their behavior, Wendi did not tell Donna about the stipulated Order. She was so invested in the proceedings, I recall Donna continued preparing arguments and bribes for Wendi to use against Dan at the next hearing-- not realizing it was done. The fight was over. MOO

And she knew she could manipulate her brother, the only way she could move is if "something" happen to her ex. Backup plan. WHO fueled the hate against DanM? imo

I think CA sitting in jail now, is able to see the big picture, but can't turn against her....yet.

 

[ShadyLady]

Great post! I felt she was more honest at Charlie's trial. She is in for life, why keep lying?

Someone planted in her mind that her life might change. I forget her exact words. At least one Adelson has to stay out of prison if she plans on benefiting, haha.

 

[mdwannabejd]

So we are all starting to agree with the direction of, the questions asked, and the new information coming out in this trial that they are coming for WA next. So when would this arrest take place? Immediately after this trial? I mean they waited 11 years, it would be weird to sit on this for weeks or months post DA trial.

 

[BUF]

That last sidebar happened just before we were to hear what Donna and Wendi talked about right after Charlie’s verdict.

Court broke early as a juror needed an extended break today. Back at 1:15.

 

[vislaw]

Before today I felt it was unlikely the state would have enough to indict Wendi. I'm changing my mind now based on how this testimony is coming in today. Can't wait to see what more is coming.

 

[BUF]

So we are all starting to agree with the direction of, the questions asked, and the new information coming out in this trial that they are coming for WA next. So when would this arrest take place? Immediately after this trial? I mean they waited 11 years, it would be weird to sit on this for weeks or months post DA trial.

Just guessing….but if a conviction in Donna’s trial (I believe there will be), then they would send Wendi’s case to a grand jury (as they did with Donna), then charge her

 

[apeXperience]

Observation

• It seems Rob Adelson was allowed to say less than what he wanted to say (motion to suppress, limits & objections); but he must know much more than he is willing to reveal as indicated by his guarded concise utterances
• As compared to the trials of SG, KM, and CA, it appears the prosecutors inject added emphasis on the coordination between State labeled un-indicted co-conspirator Wendi Adelson and indicted co-conspirator Donna Adelson

Opinion

• The State might be desperate to convict DA such that they have no choice but to reveal their previously guarded cards regarding WA
• Or, the State recently obtained more reserved evidences against WA such that they are now comfortable revealing older details as compared to the previous three trials
• Or, both

Speculation

• In the event of DA’s conviction, many details of DA’s trial could become strengthened elements of an eventual PCA against WA for the consideration of the Grand Jury
• In contrast with the previous 3 trials, Wendi Adelson affords more retainers paying attention and taking notes potentially because she has expectation of being arrested
• Similar to David Markus’ move with CA, it could be the case that John Lauro would not represent Wendi Adelson if she gets to be arrested

If we could use someone else photo as avatar, the photo below is an outstanding candidate

 

[Missyrocks5]

Donna and Wendi are done. We don't even know half of what they have on Wendi. Although the delays were frustrating, the only thing that matters is getting a conviction because of who they are up against. Other than getting to the jury, they are done.

 

[ShadyLady]

Donna and Wendi are done. We don't even know half of what they have on Wendi. Although the delays were frustrating, the only thing that matters is getting a conviction because of who they are up against. Other than getting to the jury, they are done.

CA and DA spoke at LENGTH about the jury on jail phone calls. And "Tallahassee people" of course. They really do fancy themselves privileged and "better", (entitled). So, bet plans will be focused on jury selections, and moving the next trial.

I can only imagine how Wendy feels about Georgia Cappleman, haha.

<<Born and raised with a strong sense of justice, Georgia Cappleman has always been passionate about making a difference in the legal arena. She pursued her higher education at Florida State University, earning her Doctor of Law (JD) from the FSU College of Law in 2001. During her academic years, Cappleman exhibited exceptional dedication, laying the foundation for her illustrious career.>>

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[IQuestion]

Do you think Jackie Fulford has lost weight due to the stress of the trial. Her clothes appear to be too big for her. I'm sure they are working long hours, and the pressure must be immense.

Or she borrowed(?) the jacket from someone who doesn't need it anymore. The sleeves are just too long. (Sometimes I feel my alter ego screams "Where is Effie Trinket when you need her?" At least fix your freakin' collar!) This orchestrated attempt to give civility and fairness to people who have demonstrated neither civility or fairness almost seems like a mockery of justice. DA's defense attorney demanding the words, "Southern Black Lady" be removed from DA's emails, but OK to leave Catholic, Christian and Nazi in others? Until this trial, I never knew the practice of Catholicism and Christianity could be used as a weapon to intimidate a Canadian attorney into giving up certain child custody arrangements. My thought has always been, "If you think the hand-picked jurors are qualified to be fair and impartial...then give them all the info and let them decide."
If it wasn't for their money, would anyone be doing this for this obviously deranged grandmother. And, "No," she doesn't love her husband more than anything....NO ONE DOES THIS TO A LOYAL HUSBAND!
(Walk it off IQ...walk it off. a looong walk.)

 

[Knitpicker]

Great observations re Jeff’s evolving testimony about his interactions with the Adelsons! Another example of evolving testimony. This has been a theme throughout and (as you know ) I’ve been saying this for years and bringing that up usually isn't received well by many that follow this case – but I can give you MULTIPLE examples. Another thing he said that almost floored me yesterday is saying Wendi was taking down the boys art from he walls on July 13th – why is this new allegation surfacing for the first time over 11 years after Dan’s murder?

Just to be CLEAR, I am not anti Lacasse, but there multiple things he had testified to that are puzzling to me and most of it goes unchecked. I truly believe his intentions are good but I also believe in his efforts to be helpful he is misrepresenting certain details and very possibly at a subconscious level. I'm glad you brought this up – someone that clearly is not on the Adelson payroll

So I am wondering why Corbitt is not mentioning where Harveys cell phone was once they headed out of Miami…hmmm
I agree with you on the wall art..and why all of a sudden he's having Dinner with Donna…when she hardly said a word to him prior…The quirky Jeff adjusting the chair in court was kind of entertaining. Jeff doesn’t disappoint.
More than ever tho, your gal is going down…

Edit: are you a betting man ?

 

[Knitpicker]

Or she borrowed(?) the jacket from someone who doesn't need it anymore. The sleeves are just too long. (Sometimes I feel my alter ego screams "Where is Effie Trinket when you need her?" At least fix your freakin' collar!) This orchestrated attempt to give civility and fairness to people who have demonstrated neither civility or fairness almost seems like a mockery of justice. DA's defense attorney demanding the words, "Southern Black Lady" be removed from DA's emails, but OK to leave Catholic, Christian and Nazi in others? Until this trial, I never knew the practice of Catholicism and Christianity could be used as a weapon to intimidate a Canadian attorney into giving up certain child custody arrangements. My thought has always been, "If you think the hand-picked jurors are qualified to be fair and impartial...then give them all the info and let them decide."
If it wasn't for their money, would anyone be doing this for this obviously deranged grandmother. And, "No," she doesn't love her husband more than anything....NO ONE DOES THIS TO A LOYAL HUSBAND!
(Walk it off IQ...walk it off. a looong walk.)

There is nothing worse that a jacket with sleeves 3-4 inches too long. Donna didnt seem to be a fashionista, but it would bug anyone to see an attorney with a jacket that looked like she borrowed it from her teenage son.
So what do you think abotu the developments so far today?

 

[Knitpicker]

Observation

• It seems Rob Adelson was allowed to say less than what he wanted to say (motion to suppress, limits & objections); but he must know much more than he is willing to reveal as indicated by his guarded concise utterances
• As compared to the trials of SG, KM, and CA, it appears the prosecutors inject added emphasis on the coordination between State labeled un-indicted co-conspirator Wendi Adelson and indicted co-conspirator Donna Adelson

Opinion

• The State might be desperate to convict DA such that they have no choice but to reveal their previously guarded cards regarding WA
• Or, the State recently obtained more reserved evidences against WA such that they are now comfortable revealing older details as compared to the previous three trials
• Or, both

Speculation

• In the event of DA’s conviction, many details of DA’s trial could become strengthened elements of an eventual PCA against WA for the consideration of the Grand Jury
• In contrast with the previous 3 trials, Wendi Adelson affords more retainers paying attention and taking notes potentially because she has expectation of being arrested
• Similar to David Markus’ move with CA, it could be the case that John Lauro would not represent Wendi Adelson if she gets to be arrested

If we could use someone else photo as avatar, the photo below is an outstanding candidate
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Good work. I selfishly don’t want Sarah to take the judge position (if she gets it) before wendi is put away. She’s doing such a great job -hopefully her decision is not from burnout

 

[ShadyLady]

Before today I felt it was unlikely the state would have enough to indict Wendi. I'm changing my mind now based on how this testimony is coming in today. Can't wait to see what more is coming.

I do find it just a little odd, that there are plenty of jail calls between CA and his mother right after the guilty verdict, and a few friend calls......... but NOT one call from Wendy? WHY? Hmmmm.

 

[Knitpicker]

I do find it just a little odd, that there are plenty of jail calls between CA and his mother right after the guilty verdict, and a few friend calls......... but NOT one call from Wendy? WHY? Hmmmm.

There was a jail call with D and C talking about that. Donna complaining that she isn’t even calling her to see how he is after the conviction. Her lawyer told her not to talk with her family..yet we now know thats a lie! I guess GC is saving that one for her.

 

[Going Rogue]

Wendi’s text to Rob about Jeff

It's being represented as a strategic move by Wendi to have Rob identify Jeff as a suspect in the event Rob is questioned. Wouldn’t you know it, Rob actually mentioned Jeff – so it perfectly fits the long standing theory that Jeff was the fall guy. I would love to see the actual text to get the full context, but I can only bases my analysis on whats been mentioned in Rob’s testimony which is limited data and I’m trying to look at this objectively. In full disclosure, I do not believe Jeff was being set up as the fall guy, so I am bringing my biases into this analysis.

The timeline was late June of 2014 right before Wendi & Jeff’s trip to Gainesville and the month prior to Dan’s murder. Rob said he previously lived in Gainesville and Wendi mentioned she was traveling to Gainesville with ‘Jeff’ her new boyfriend. Was Wendi was inquiring about the lay of the land e.g. what to do / visit? Rob thought it was odd that Wendi mentioned a ‘new’ boyfriend because she hadn’t done that before. When I analyze that, she was coming off a recent divorce and although based on Jeff’s police interview Wendi had many flings, her relationships with Jeff seemed to me more than a fling and prior to that text to Rob, what other boyfriend (post her divorce with Dan) was worth mentioning? What is obviously odd about the text is Wendi telling Rob their parents don’t know about Jeff? Jeff was presented with this text (apparently for the first time last week) and testified yesterday that he had met the Adelsons (Donna & Harvey) several times and they did infact know he was Wendi boyfriend? I would love to know EXACTLY what Wendi texted to Rob re “don’t tell mom and dad”? Was it that she was dating Jeff or traveling with him? Also, credit to Knitpicker for pointing out that Jeff’s testimony on his interactions with the Adelsons is somewhat evolving. Lets also keep in mind this text to Rob was weeks prior to Harvey’s 70th birthday bash so Wendi knew she’d be seeing Rob and they’d all be together.

I don’t have a strong opinion on this text either way and just want to say I hate missing information and information that is presented without the full context. Possibly very damning for Wendi, but also possibly being blown out of proportion – like many other details to this case.

Love to hear other opinions!

 

[Knitpicker]

Wendi’s text to Rob about Jeff

It's being represented as a strategic move by Wendi to have Rob identify Jeff as a suspect in the event Rob is questioned. Wouldn’t you know it, Rob actually mentioned Jeff – so it perfectly fits the long standing theory that Jeff was the fall guy. I would love to see the actual text to get the full context, but I can only bases my analysis on whats been mentioned in Rob’s testimony which is limited data and I’m trying to look at this objectively. In full disclosure, I do not believe Jeff was being set up as the fall guy, so I am bringing my biases into this analysis.

The timeline was late June of 2014 right before Wendi & Jeff’s trip to Gainesville and the month prior to Dan’s murder. Rob said he previously lived in Gainesville and Wendi mentioned she was traveling to Gainesville with ‘Jeff’ her new boyfriend. Was Wendi was inquiring about the lay of the land e.g. what to do / visit? Rob thought it was odd that Wendi mentioned a ‘new’ boyfriend because she hadn’t done that before. When I analyze that, she was coming off a recent divorce and although based on Jeff’s police interview Wendi had many flings, her relationships with Jeff seemed to me more than a fling and prior to that text to Rob, what other boyfriend (post her divorce with Dan) was worth mentioning? What is obviously odd about the text is Wendi telling Rob their parents don’t know about Jeff? Jeff was presented with this text (apparently for the first time last week) and testified yesterday that he had met the Adelsons (Donna & Harvey) several times and they did infact know he was Wendi boyfriend? I would love to know EXACTLY what Wendi texted to Rob re “don’t tell mom and dad”? Was it that she was dating Jeff or traveling with him? Also, credit to Knitpicker for pointing out that Jeff’s testimony on his interactions with the Adelsons is somewhat evolving. Lets also keep in mind this text to Rob was weeks prior to Harvey’s 70th birthday bash so Wendi knew she’d be seeing Rob and they’d all be together.

I don’t have a strong opinion on this text either way and just want to say I hate missing information and information that is presented without the full context. Possibly very damning for Wendi, but also possibly being blown out of proportion – like many other details to this case.

Love to hear other opinions!

Could be she was seeing that other guy in Miami (as per Sara Youssef), and made Jeff out to be just a friend to her family. A guy from FSU that helped her with her kids so she can date D. Sack.
I’ll get the Miami guys name if you want. There was a conversation on the terrace at ICON between Sarah, her then husband and Wendi.

Name is Kira-research assistant at FIU (Miami). Dating wendi- cheating on Jeffrey-He knew! She also said to Sara that she is going to prison for the rest of her life” at that time (Sarah’s depo)

Edit: Of course will have to be confirmed at trial.

 

[Going Rogue]

So I am wondering why Corbitt is not mentioning where Harveys cell phone was once they headed out of Miami…hmmm
I agree with you on the wall art..and why all of a sudden he's having Dinner with Donna…when she hardly said a word to him prior…The quirky Jeff adjusting the chair in court was kind of entertaining. Jeff doesn’t disappoint.
More than ever tho, your gal is going down…

Edit: are you a betting man ?

I need to see more and further analyze some of the things being revealed in this trial. I stand FIRM on my opinion that ‘IF” the DA’s office has been sitting on evidence that would have indisputably met the burden of proof, the governor, the honorable Ron DeSantis, needs immediately fire Jack Campbell for dereliction of duty. I mean that seriously – and I don’t mean things they found out last month. Things that haven’t been publicly disclosed that they have been sitting on that would result in a sure conviction. That would be inexcusable.

So to answer you directly, my opinion hasn’t changed. I think the way certain information is being presented is purposefully (or slightly) misleading - that just my opinion. I don’t think you watched the Karen Read trial closely, but on a scale of 1 to 10 the prosecution in that case was a SOLID 10 in regard to the way they ‘present’ data to mislead. In this case, the prosecution is a 3 or 4, but enough to create a buzz.

 

[Knitpicker]

I need to see more and further analyze some of the things being revealed in this trial. I stand FIRM on my opinion that ‘IF” the DA’s office has been sitting on evidence that would have indisputably met the burden of proof, the governor, the honorable Ron DeSantis, needs immediately fire Jack Campbell for dereliction of duty. I mean that seriously – and I don’t mean things they found out last month. Things that haven’t been publicly disclosed that they have been sitting on that would result in a sure conviction. That would be inexcusable.

So to answer you directly, my opinion hasn’t changed. I think the way certain information is being presented is purposefully (or slightly) misleading - that just my opinion. I don’t think you watched the Karen Read trial closely, but on a scale of 1 to 10 the prosecution in that case was a SOLID 10 in regard to the way they ‘present’ data to mislead. In this case, the prosecution is a 3 or 4, but enough to create a buzz.

I watched the entire KR trial. Lol how do you know if I watched it “closely”?