FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *5 Guilty* #28

[Weki]

“…until the end of time.” I like the sound of that. LOL

 

[Zedzded]

Yeah on the 17th. She kind of just threw that out there.

So it means something. It wasn't just a random comment. I think she said the weather may have set it off....

Did she do something or LR and SG do something?

 

[Zedzded]

"Ellin Bessner: But as the grandmother, if Wendi gets convicted, let’s say a hypothetical, and she goes to prison, then who’s gonna look after the boys? Something you weigh on your mind, I assume it is"

This enrages me. Like no-one is addressing this elephant in the room i.e the person looking after the boys is someone that should absolutely NOT be looking after the boys. You don't need to be a psychiatrist to come to that conclusion. Imagine if there was a Dad in that position and he'd been accused of horrendous sex crimes they wouldn't hesitate to rip the kids from him. But WA's pretty and educated so the fact she was responsible for murdering her children's father gets swept under the carpet....

Now I'm going out on a limb here, but perhaps she's an unfit mother. Crazy hey....

 

[mdwannabejd]

So it means something. It wasn't just a random comment. I think she said the weather may have set it off....

Did she do something or LR and SG do something?

I always thought it was said to send LE down a possible home invasion route.

 

[Knitpicker]

"Ellin Bessner: But as the grandmother, if Wendi gets convicted, let’s say a hypothetical, and she goes to prison, then who’s gonna look after the boys? Something you weigh on your mind, I assume it is"

This enrages me. Like no-one is addressing this elephant in the room i.e the person looking after the boys is someone that should absolutely NOT be looking after the boys. You don't need to be a psychiatrist to come to that conclusion. Imagine if there was a Dad in that position and he'd been accused of horrendous sex crimes they wouldn't hesitate to rip the kids from him. But WA's pretty and educated so the fact she was responsible for murdering her children's father gets swept under the carpet....

Now I'm going out on a limb here, but perhaps she's an unfit mother. Crazy hey....

Could be that George is a stabilizing influence in WA’s and the boys lives. Maybe he's too busy to follow the case? Or is some kind of martyr for the sake of the boys?
But yes good point. Ruth definitely has to be careful. She realizes the error in WA finding out about that email on the foster care.
Do you know how WA found out? RM didn’t email it to her did she?
Something I tried to research. I do remember Ruth talking about about it somewhere

By the way, I never spent much time there (too time draining to read every post there at the time) but a couple of days ago on R-edit (not sure I can mention that here) someone in a comment posted a link to a thread they started on 2 trip theory-2 years ago. I just went through reading it and the comments and it was surprising someone posted exactly what came to my mind recently about the 2 trips. I am more convinced that is what happened. I thought I came up with something original

PS about the alarm going off- I remember Wendi and another person on the list for contacts was notified.
Don’t remember the other details and don’t have the stamina now to review that interview—again!

 

[Weki]

Mentour Lawyer has an interview of Detective Isom up on his channel. Further proof that there will be no more prosecutions in this case. Presumably Isom would be a key witness if Wendi was to be prosecuted since he did the interview. There is no way he’s doing podcast interviews without approval from Georgia and if she gave him the OK then that IMO means no more prosecutions. Cause anything he says can be used as ammo by defense. The fact that he’s even giving interviews to anti-Adelsons podcasts can be viewed as bias on his part etc.

JMO

 

[Knitpicker]

Mentour Lawyer has an interview of Detective Isom up on his channel. Further proof that there will be no more prosecutions in this case. Presumably Isom would be a key witness if Wendi was to be prosecuted since he did the interview. There is no way he’s doing podcast interviews without approval from Georgia and if she gave him the OK then that IMO means no more prosecutions. Cause anything he says can be used as ammo by defense. The fact that he’s even giving interviews to anti-Adelsons podcasts can be viewed as bias on his part etc.

JMO

I didn’t find anything in that interview that would interfere with the prosecutions case against her.
It was surprising he would do an interview-I actually thought there would be more from him.
He didn’t find her a suspect at all during the interview.
Maybe the interview was a plan for people to think they are done with arrests?

 

[jumpinjack]

Could be that George is a stabilizing influence in WA’s and the boys lives. Maybe he's too busy to follow the case? Or is some kind of martyr for the sake of the boys?
But yes good point. Ruth definitely has to be careful. She realizes the error in WA finding out about that email on the foster care.
Do you know how WA found out? RM didn’t email it to her did she?
Something I tried to research. I do remember Ruth talking about about it somewhere

By the way, I never spent much time there (too time draining to read every post there at the time) but a couple of days ago on R-edit (not sure I can mention that here) someone in a comment posted a link to a thread they started on 2 trip theory-2 years ago. I just went through reading it and the comments and it was surprising someone posted exactly what came to my mind recently about the 2 trips. I am more convinced that is what happened. I thought I came up with something original

PS about the alarm going off- I remember Wendi and another person on the list for contacts was notified.
Don’t remember the other details and don’t have the stamina now to review that interview—again!

But yes good point. Ruth definitely has to be careful. She realizes the error in WA finding out about that email on the foster care.
Do you know how WA found out? RM didn’t email it to her did she?
Something I tried to research. I do remember Ruth talking about about it somewhere

"The email was included with court documents recently released in the case. It is not clear if the email was intentionally included in the documents or released by mistake."

Email in Markel case suggests additional arrests forthcoming

A new email has surfaced in the murder case of Florida State University professor Dan Markel.

www.wctv.tv

 

[khaki]

So it means something. It wasn't just a random comment. I think she said the weather may have set it off....

Did she do something or LR and SG do something?

When LR testies, he mentions he and SG went to the Trescott house on the 17th. I wonder if that is what triggers the alarm. The link below is from his testimony from SG's trial. The part where he talks about the 17th starts at approx. the 33:00 timestamp

 

[Knitpicker]

But yes good point. Ruth definitely has to be careful. She realizes the error in WA finding out about that email on the foster care.
Do you know how WA found out? RM didn’t email it to her did she?
Something I tried to research. I do remember Ruth talking about about it somewhere

"The email was included with court documents recently released in the case. It is not clear if the email was intentionally included in the documents or released by mistake."

Email in Markel case suggests additional arrests forthcoming

A new email has surfaced in the murder case of Florida State University professor Dan Markel.

www.wctv.tv

Thank you.
So why would Ruth have thought the Adelsons were to be arrested?
Michael De Leo- Chief of Police -yes that press conference (article in Tallahassee Democrat) about arresting all the Adelsons at the time.
I’d have to go back and see when that conference was and if it coincided with the email.
Interesting seeing the Willie Meggs comment.
So it was in error in the file..too bad.
Makes you wonder if that didn't happen, what would have been Wendi’s excuse for keeping the kids from the Markels.
Almost 10 yrs later and here we are. Seems a definite unfortunate error by the state with a decade of consequences for the family.
Thx again.

 

[opt]

Makes you wonder if that didn't happen, what would have been Wendi’s excuse for keeping the kids from the Markels.

She would have invented an excuse. Just consider how much she twisted the meaning of this innocuous letter.

 

[Zedzded]

was surprising someone posted exactly what came to my mind recently about the 2 trips. I am more convinced that is what happened. I thought I came up with something original

No_violinst?

 

[Knitpicker]

No_violinst?

No the person who posted 2 years ago on the subject.
A recent post had a comment with a link to the 2 years old post about it.
Kapish?
I’d have to read through all the comments again to find it. But I know the no_violinist person (from comments there) and it wasn’t that name.

 

[Knitpicker]

She would have invented an excuse. Just consider how much she twisted the meaning of this innocuous letter.

Yes but she got a lot of leverage against the Markells finding out about that email.
It’s just unfortunate. I guess it got to her lawyer which is how she found out.

 

[Baba O'Riley]

"The email was included with court documents recently released in the case. It is not clear if the email was intentionally included in the documents or released by mistake."

I just finished reading Ruth's book. She said she was told the email was included by accident.

P.S. And I accidentally inserted the image below from my computer and can't delete it! Sorry! Does anyone know how I can delete it? Thanks!

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Attorneys discuss the motion and they are not impressed.

 

[Knitpicker]

So it means something. It wasn't just a random comment. I think she said the weather may have set it off....

Did she do something or LR and SG do something?

You know, there was a youtube creator that thought the guys were in the back and that WA left something for them. Like a garage door opener. There was talk of a neighbor seeing two guys with something black in their hands. It was so long ago, I don't even remember if that was the first or second trip so I don’t want to muddy the waters answering.
But the fact she brought that up with Isom-there had to be a reason. It was also the day (if it was the same trip) supposedly LR saw W and boys (but thats been disproven bc the boys were in school) Of course if it was before 8:30 before she dropped them off it could have happened-but LR said they were there about noon or it seems late morning.There's a lot scrambled between all the trials, LR interrogation with Sanford and Isom…Maybe someone else remembers better than I do.

 

[ar3593]

After listening to Jack Campbell's comment about how worried he is that his prosecutors are going to be sick from trying these cases, *I* am feeling sickened, quite frankly. I have never been all that impressed with the lead prosecutor in this case. Her affect and low energy has never been more evident than in her 2 hour closing argument at Donna's trial. It was a long, tedious summary that she read to the jury for 2 hours. It came across as lazy and as if she was just going through the motions.

Her performance at every one of these trials in my opinion leaves a lot to be desired. I find her rushed and impatient with many aspects of the proceedings. She leads witnesses and gets testy when told not to by the judge, she speaks over objections/rulings, she gets irritated at low stakes events and seems non-plussed at the high stakes events etc. Her cross of Charlie was pretty tepid as well. I feel that she didn't put Charlie in his place enough. She answered his questions and got defensive at times. A curt, one-time "I ask the questions not you" was all that was needed to remind him that he's not the maestro anymore. I think the cool, calm, and collected demeanor is nothing more than haughtiness.

And now listening to Jack Campbell and watching his affect, it's like this is about the prosecutors and the DA's office. No, sir! This is about a man's reprehensible murder and seeking justice for him and his family. If your prosecutors are going to be sick from trying one of the most notorious murder cases in recent Tally history, then you need better prosecutors.

JMO

I think the prosecution has done a phenomenal job!! JMO.

 

[Going Rogue]

I didn’t find anything in that interview that would interfere with the prosecutions case against her.
It was surprising he would do an interview-I actually thought there would be more from him.
He didn’t find her a suspect at all during the interview.
Maybe the interview was a plan for people to think they are done with arrests?

The lead investigator stated in an interview (granted, it was 11 years later) that after a five-plus-hour interview on the day of the shooting, he didn’t view Wendi as a suspect. This could be relevant in a future trial for Wendi. I’ve lost count of how many posts, comments, and YouTube videos claim that people knew Wendi was involved after her first “fake” cry. Yet, the lead investigator, who was with her from the ride from the restaurant to the police station and for the remainder of the afternoon into the evening, didn’t suspect her.

I’m glad Isom did this interview because it confirmed many things I’ve argued for years. It’s easy to understand Wendi’s comment about thinking she was a suspect during the car ride after hearing Isom’s interview. It was always common sense to me that Isom likely deflected any questions and avoided details because he wanted to get her to the station in a controlled environment where everything could be recorded—his interview confirmed this. Before arriving at the station, all Wendi knew was that a serious incident involving her ex-husband had occurred at his home and that her boys were safe at preschool. While probing during the car ride, Isom told her he couldn’t discuss details until they reached the station, but he confirmed it involved Dan. This is exactly how I pictured it from day one. Isom also said in ML’s interview that she was told at the restaurant it involved Dan, so it’s unclear why it was reconfirmed in the car. Perhaps Isom doesn’t remember all the details, which is understandable given the time that has elapsed.

So, I’ll ask: How is her comment, “I wasn’t sure on the car ride over if I was a suspect,” odd in any way? Wendi is smart (according to most), and she would have had to be oblivious not to realize something serious had happened and that she might be suspected of something. How often is someone intercepted at a restaurant and asked to go to a police station for questioning without being given details, other than that it involves their ex-spouse, only to be told after probing that details can’t be discussed until reaching the station? It’s a very uncommon scenario. There’s no blueprint for how to act in such circumstances, yet I’ve seen all sorts of comments claiming Wendi should have done this or that—without an understanding of how things unfolded. This interview cleared up some of those knowledge gaps.

 

[Going Rogue]

You know, there was a youtube creator that thought the guys were in the back and that WA left something for them. Like a garage door opener. There was talk of a neighbor seeing two guys with something black in their hands. It was so long ago, I don't even remember if that was the first or second trip so I don’t want to muddy the waters answering.
But the fact she brought that up with Isom-there had to be a reason. It was also the day (if it was the same trip) supposedly LR saw W and boys (but thats been disproven bc the boys were in school) Of course if it was before 8:30 before she dropped them off it could have happened-but LR said they were there about noon or it seems late morning.There's a lot scrambled between all the trials, LR interrogation with Sanford and Isom…Maybe someone else remembers better than I do.

The incident of the two guys being spotted behind Dan’s home was actually written in one of the arrest affidavits – I’m almost certain it was Sigfredos. It was later determined that the two guys were not Sigfredo and Rivera and it was unrelated to Dan’s murder. Yes, all sorts of theories were tossed around based on that claim like Wendi hide a key, a garage door remote, the keycode to the garage door, and a bag of money etc. We can write a book on false theories that have resulted from this tragedy Not even going to crack a joke about the latest theory involving two trips LOL