FL FL - Gainesville, WhtMale Skeletal, 40-60, in pine forest off Millhopper Rd, Jan'16

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THE SECOND TEENAGER

Last year, long before police had publicly revealed anything at all about Paul Rowles or his red Bronco, Pat Sessions got an email from a woman. She started by asking forgiveness for what she was about to tell him.

In 1989, when she was just 16, the woman was living with her mother in Gainesville. Her parents had divorced, and her father lived in a small town several miles north. Her father had just gone home to recover from minor surgery, and early that evening she decided to drive up to see him.

She had only been driving for a few months, and was a little nervous about driving at dusk. So when she rounded a curve in a rural wooded area about 10 miles north of Gainesville, she panicked at the sight of a blonde girl running into the middle of the road, waving her arms in obvious distress. She ran her car off the road into a ditch.

As she tried frantically to back her car out of the ditch, the young woman could see in her rearview mirror that the blond girl looked terrified. And from the woods, a man was running toward her. He seemed to be coming from a red truck that had been backed into the treeline.

Terrified, she managed to get her car up onto the road and roared away. By the time she got to her father’s house, she was ashamed of leaving. Should she call the police? Her father pooh-poohed the idea. Probably just a boyfriend-girlfriend dispute, he said. Nothing to worry about. She decided to do as her father suggested, and let it go.

The woman’s trip north took place on Feb. 10, 1989. Over the next few days, she saw, over and over, reports about the disappearance of Tiffany Sessions the night before. She wasn’t stupid; the possibility that she had seen the kidnapped girl that everybody was looking for was plain to her. But how would she ever explain why she had just driven away and done nothing? The longer she waited, the more impossible it seemed to report what she had seen.

Yet over the years, her decision gnawed at her. Now in her mid-30s, with a daughter of her own, she understood more clearly than ever what Tiffany’s parents were going through. And she was reaching out. “I am beside you in your search for Tiffany,” she said.

Pat Sessions gratefully put her in touch with police. She easily directed them to the sharp and distinctive curve on Racetrack Road where she went into the ditch. She passed a lie-detector test and even agreed to be hypnotized in hopes that more details would surface in her memory. But they didn’t.

“Did I believe her? Enough to take a team of cadaver dogs out there to search those woods,” says Allen. “But the dogs didn’t get any hits. So there’s not much more that we can do right now. It’s a story we might be able to verify further if we find the Bronco.”

But verification would also dash the belief with which Pat and Hillary Sessions have comforted themselves the past two decades or so — that whatever happened to their daughter, it happened quickly. If Melissa’s story is true, it means that Tiffany was still alive at least 24 hours after her abduction.
http://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/rowles-paul.htm

I couldn't find a specific race track road in Gainesville. I did find an area North of Gainesville, where there is a Race track, with an unnamed curvy road next to it that is not exceedingly far from where this body was found. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/570...1!1s0x88e8a8841a876aa7:0x512d07ec0bf33665!3e0
 
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http://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/rowles-paul.htm

I couldn't find a specific race track road in Gainesville. I did find an area North of Gainesville, where there is a Race track, with an unnamed curvy road next to it that is not exceedingly far from where this body was found. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/570...1!1s0x88e8a8841a876aa7:0x512d07ec0bf33665!3e0
That's the road and that's the way with the best main roads to get there. If that was Tiffany, she may have been captured and then driven to another area that her perpetrator knew well. Good find.
 
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I am going to tentatively scratch at least one off. I believe I have found the Facebook for Arielle Buday, from Florida, living in Belgium, mother named Jepke, and looks like the same girl. https://m.facebook.com/arielle.buday
Going to contact Interpol, etc. Later.
 
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And apparently her father tried to kidnap her back in 2011. The courts have said so far that she doesn't have to come back to the US. http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/7u37jouh
In Dutch, i I'll translate if you request it.
 
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http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/maps/pages/3300/f3346/f3346.htm This is a map from the area circa 1975. The area where the race track road should be is in the upper right hand of the map just north of Route 24 after the intersection with route 121. It says numerous small.swamps there and there are roads that are unnamed going through the area. I wanted to find an old map in hopes of finding a road actually labelled "Race track Road." And apparently the roads were renamed in Gainesville in 1950 with a numbering scheme instead of other names.
 
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Just following up, I reported the information on Arielle to Ncmec, Interpol, the charley project, and the Gainesville police, and Namus.
 
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http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/maps/pages/3300/f3346/f3346.htm This is a map from the area circa 1975. The area where the race track road should be is in the upper right hand of the map just north of Route 24 after the intersection with route 121. It says numerous small.swamps there and there are roads that are unnamed going through the area. I wanted to find an old map in hopes of finding a road actually labelled "Race track Road." And apparently the roads were renamed in Gainesville in 1950 with a numbering scheme instead of other names.
I've always heard it referred to as Race Track Rd due to the Gator Nationals track being on that road.
 
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I've always heard it referred to as Race Track Rd due to the Gator Nationals track being on that road.
Ok. You probably know better since you are from the area. The thing that is throwing me off is that the teenage witness said something about being near a distinctive curve in the road, and that road looks pretty straight to me. We might be looking at the location of her possible sighting being further away to the North (?) If it involves curves. Is there a curve n that street that you would consider memorable or characteristic?
 
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No info on Christian Camacho. The one guy I found was definitely a nsfw search.

Another Christian Camacho lives less than 10 minutes away from me in Nj he also appears to be an ordained Eastern Orthodox priest.

The kid was 17, you'd think they'd put a pic out of him. Without that or some more info, I can't see if he's still alive and instagramming or facebooking. There are several people with that name.
 
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And lastly, Daniel Flores Mexicano. His description is so vague, I wonder if whomever reported him missing even knew him. No eye color, no hair, weight from 100-200lbs. No pic.
There are several Daniel Flores Mexicanos. One appears to be the right age and modelling in AZ. But I just don't have enough info to try to find him if he's alive.
 
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"An investigation into skeletal remains found Jan. 24 in Gainesville has shown that they are that of a white man who appears to have died within the six to 24 months, authorities said Monday.

No identification has been made but investigators say the remains are that of a man about 5 feet, 10 inches tall and between 40 and 60 years old. He was wearing blue jeans and brown work boots."

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20160201/ARTICLES/160209978?tc=cr
 
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Ok. You probably know better since you are from the area. The thing that is throwing me off is that the teenage witness said something about being near a distinctive curve in the road, and that road looks pretty straight to me. We might be looking at the location of her possible sighting being further away to the North (?) If it involves curves. Is there a curve n that street that you would consider memorable or characteristic?
Just saw this so sorry I haven't replied. There are curves if memory serves. The next time I take a ride I will go back there and check it out.
 
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