FL - George Zimmerman arrested for aggravated assault

I don't think we ever had any proof he started the fight.

The whole situation, which I exhaustively followed, is just going to be another one of life's great mysteries. The only people who truly know what happened, one had a lengthy prison sentence hanging over his head, the other one died.

No one else can 100% corroborate what happened.

Two things I am sure of. GZ has poor judgement and isn't much of a fighter. :p

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My opinion is that he should never have gone after Trayvon at all. He should have stayed and waited for the police. The rest was just his story and I found it hard to believe. JMO
 
My opinion is that he should never have gone after Trayvon at all. He should have stayed and waited for the police. The rest was just his story and I found it hard to believe. JMO

I Totally Agree, and I am Neighborhood Watch for my block!
 
My opinion is that he should never have gone after Trayvon at all. He should have stayed and waited for the police. The rest was just his story and I found it hard to believe. JMO

Well of course he shouldn't have. But that only proves poor judgement. The rest we still don't know.

The catalyst here was when both people first came face to face and the ensuing exchange leading to the fight.

That is the big unknown here.

We know there was a fight. We know Zimmerman sustained wounds to his head. We have a witness putting Martin on top of GZ, likely striking him.

It all comes down to the brief moment before the fight. We don't know if Zimmerman rudely interrogated him, or politely asked him what he was doing, or he immediately tried to detain Martin.

Too many maybes here.

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Well of course he shouldn't have. But that only proves poor judgement. The rest we still don't know.

The catalyst here was when both people first came face to face and the ensuing exchange leading to the fight.

That is the big unknown here.

We know there was a fight. We know Zimmerman sustained wounds to his head. We have a witness putting Martin on top of GZ, likely striking him.

It all comes down to the brief moment before the fight. We don't know if Zimmerman rudely interrogated him, or politely asked him what he was doing, or he immediately tried to detain Martin.

Too many maybes here.

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I don't see Zimmerman walking up to Trayvon and calmly asking him what he was doing there and then Trayvon starts pounding on him. It seems to me that Zimmerman did something to set Trayvon off. Was it nasty words and a push from Zimmerman or did Zimmerman just put his hands on Trayvon first? I just don't see Trayvon going off on Zimmerman without good reason.

Unfortunately, all we have are the words of a person known to have a huge ego, and a violent streak.
 
I don't see Zimmerman walking up to Trayvon and calmly asking him what he was doing there and then Trayvon starts pounding on him. It seems to me that Zimmerman did something to set Trayvon off. Was it nasty words and a push from Zimmerman or did Zimmerman just put his hands on Trayvon first? I just don't see Trayvon going off on Zimmerman without good reason.

Unfortunately, all we have are the words of a person known to have a huge ego, and a violent streak.

ITA. Zimmerman thought he was above the law then and he still does.
 
I see Zimmerman more passive aggressive than anything. Mistreating women is one thing but suddenly being face to face with a shadowy figure you think is a prowler and just called the cops on is another thing.

If the situation didn't unfold so quickly I think Zimmy would have needed a change of underwear.

Even so to alert police of your location and then proceed to engage in something illegal (assault, brandishing a weapon etc) that just seems improbable, even for someone stupid, narcissistic, arrogant etc.

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I see Zimmerman more passive aggressive than anything. Mistreating women is one thing but suddenly being face to face with a shadowy figure you think is a prowler and just called the cops on is another thing.

If the situation didn't unfold so quickly I think Zimmy would have needed a change of underwear.

Even so to alert police of your location and then proceed to engage in something illegal (assault, brandishing a weapon etc) that just seems improbable, even for someone stupid, narcissistic, arrogant etc.

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Not to me at all. He seems to think he's Joe Badass.
 
I see Zimmerman more passive aggressive than anything. Mistreating women is one thing but suddenly being face to face with a shadowy figure you think is a prowler and just called the cops on is another thing.

If the situation didn't unfold so quickly I think Zimmy would have needed a change of underwear.

Even so to alert police of your location and then proceed to engage in something illegal (assault, brandishing a weapon etc) that just seems improbable, even for someone stupid, narcissistic, arrogant etc.

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I believe he was and is an angry narcissist who believed himself the equal of the police and thus entitled to do what he wanted, as if he was one of them. He was hell bent on showing some punk what's what and showing everyone how important he was to enforcing the law. I think he was on the prowl for this kind of situation. He was eager for the opportunity to take a bad guy down.

I knew a man like him. He was my best friend's father. Rumor was he had been a cop but got kicked off the force. Bigger kids called him "Adam 12". He beat his wife, his dog and badly abused my friend. He also went around he neighborhood trying to tell neighbors and their children what to do and trying to "discipline" kids who didn't follow his self-imposed rules.

One day us little kids were screaming on the corner, playing that we were on a roller coaster. He came stalking over and threatened us that we better shut up or we were going to get it. We were terrified but also upset at this man we knew was a horrible abuser. So we hid behind a bush and started screaming again, once he'd gone back home. He came stalking back toward us, determined and furious. We scattered in fear and from a distance watched as he took each of our bikes to his front lawn, one by one, and started hosing them down. Maybe to rust them?

We got our parents who went over and got the bikes back. He was a scary person. Usually he'd back down to the parents but if it was a kid, forget it.

I remember this tough chick in my neighborhood, Marla, big and burly (she would wrestle the boys for fun), she'd ride her bike in circles in front of his house and mock him, chanting in a sing song voice, "Hey Georgie [his first name was George], look at them sexy legs!" He'd always wear these 1970's football coach shorts. It was great. He'd just growl, "You better watch it, Marla." He was a powder keg.

He finally left the neighborhood after being taken down and arrested by a lady cop who de-gunned him in the process. One of the more satisfyingg days/nights of my life. He was arrested after I called a child abuse hotline. His kid, my former best friend, still lived there. But after years of slowly removing her from society - first she was always "grounded", then he pulled her from public school and kept changing schools until finally he pulled her out of school altogether- he confined her to her room for over a year, making her use a bucket, or portable toilet etc. I was the one who found out. I had become obsessed with finding out what happened to her and if she was still alive because her parents said she'd been sent out of state. But the neighbors reported seeing her being forced to do calisthenics on the lawn at three in the morning. We were 14 by then. So I began investigating and found she had been pulled from her last school.

For some reason, the man had no gates on the sides of his house so you could walk right into his backyard from either side, if you dared. One day, a couple friends of mine and I dared. We walked down the side yard and peered in her bedroom window. No curtains. Nothing. But clear she had been "living" in there. I can't recall now exactly What I saw. But I think there was something to indicate she was staying in that room all the time. I think there was a bucket or portable toilet and other stuff.

I called a child abuse hotline. The cops called me. A lady cop came and interviewed me that day soon after and we went down the side. My friend was not in the room that she could see. No one answered when they knocked on the door. Other neighbors got involved and said the girl was sometimes taken somewhere and ushered in late at night. So the cops said they would wait. It felt like the whole neighborhood was waiting. Apparently he came home with my friend that night. Went inside. Cops went to the door. Knocked. He opened it but was holding a gun. The lady cop took him down and took his gun. My friend was put into foster care. I was actually called to testify at a hearing but once I got to court I never ended up doing so.

My family got to take my friend out a couple of times when she was in foster care but she was very odd/messed up by then. She eventually disappeared totally, after being moved from home to home.

For years I had a recurring dream. I would break into her room at night. She'd be sitting there on the floor, cross legged, head down. The walls would be covered with crazy writing, diatribes and "Help me" in different sizes. My friend had long pony tails like when we were kids and she looked like a child still. I called her name and she looked up and her face was just crazy. And she'd tell me, "It's too late. Get out! He's coming." And I'd hear him and run. Usually I would awaken at that moment. But one time I actually got home in the dream and felt reliefuntil I said, "I'm safe. But Angelina's not."

It was this feeling that she'd been mentally destroyed by the years of abuse. She haunted me for years.

Sorryfor the long story. I feel anxiety just writing about it. But whenever I hear about Zimmerman I think of Angelina's dad. So similar in type and behavior. IMO.
 
I don't think GZ has any kids and that's a very good thing. Your story is heart breaking. You can be proud that you stopped it as soon as you could. :hug:

BTK had control issues too. He had several jobs that gave him authority and he used it to the exacting standards. IIRC, he would measure people's lawns and if they were too high he'd issue them a citation in one of his jobs. I don't think he abused any family members, but he did have an over important view of himself.

He also worked for an alarm company, and when he was arrested it was found out that he had worked at the alarm company I was working at. We were issued strict instructions to refer any inquiries to the PR department. Soon after this the media stopped using the three letters of the name of the company. (I never said the name. You can think about it, all day today, and maybe you'll come up with it, but I won't say it.) One of the guys who worked in the area BTK had worked, was still working for the company and had worked with him. This guy had been moved up the ladder since then, but he had gone out for beers with Rader after work with the guys sometimes. When Dennis Rader was arrested it really creeped him out. Just think about laughing and talking to a guy who would drive off and then do the things he did. :eek:
 
Wow gitana1, you showed so much courage and caring at the young age of 14 to help your friend the way you did. There are so many adults that look the other way or don't want to "get involved". Obviously, it has affected you very deeply. I hope your friend is doing better wherever she is now.
 
[h=1]George Zimmerman Compares Himself To Anne Frank:[/h]
By Howard Koplowitz @howardkoplowitz [email protected] on March 24 2015 2:34 PM EDT
George Zimmerman's invoking Anne Frank while discussing his life after his acquittal in the killing of Trayvon Martin showed his ignorance of the girl whose diary of life hiding from the Nazis has inspired millions of people, the executive director of the Anne Frank Center in New York said Tuesday. Quoting Frank, Zimmerman said he too believes “that people are truly good at heart,” in an interview published Monday by the Orlando Sentinel.
Zimmerman was asked whether he is the same person now that he was five years ago before Martin's death. "Absolutely not," he said. "I have to have my guard up. … I still believe that people are truly good at heart, as Anne Frank has said, and I will put myself in any position to help another human in any way I can." more at link: http://www.ibtimes.com/george-zimme...ery-different-histories-anne-1857634?ft=95p2z
 
[h=1]George Zimmerman Compares Himself To Anne Frank:[/h]
By Howard Koplowitz @howardkoplowitz [email protected] on March 24 2015 2:34 PM EDT
George Zimmerman's invoking Anne Frank while discussing his life after his acquittal in the killing of Trayvon Martin showed his ignorance of the girl whose diary of life hiding from the Nazis has inspired millions of people, the executive director of the Anne Frank Center in New York said Tuesday. Quoting Frank, Zimmerman said he too believes “that people are truly good at heart,” in an interview published Monday by the Orlando Sentinel.
Zimmerman was asked whether he is the same person now that he was five years ago before Martin's death. "Absolutely not," he said. "I have to have my guard up. … I still believe that people are truly good at heart, as Anne Frank has said, and I will put myself in any position to help another human in any way I can." more at link: http://www.ibtimes.com/george-zimme...ery-different-histories-anne-1857634?ft=95p2z

Sounds to me like Howard is showing his ignorance.

Speaking of ignorance, has anyone seen the FBI report? The CTH has some of it on their site.
 
[h=1]George Zimmerman Compares Himself To Anne Frank:[/h]
By Howard Koplowitz @howardkoplowitz [email protected] on March 24 2015 2:34 PM EDT
George Zimmerman's invoking Anne Frank while discussing his life after his acquittal in the killing of Trayvon Martin showed his ignorance of the girl whose diary of life hiding from the Nazis has inspired millions of people, the executive director of the Anne Frank Center in New York said Tuesday. Quoting Frank, Zimmerman said he too believes “that people are truly good at heart,” in an interview published Monday by the Orlando Sentinel.
Zimmerman was asked whether he is the same person now that he was five years ago before Martin's death. "Absolutely not," he said. "I have to have my guard up. … I still believe that people are truly good at heart, as Anne Frank has said, and I will put myself in any position to help another human in any way I can." more at link: http://www.ibtimes.com/george-zimme...ery-different-histories-anne-1857634?ft=95p2z

OMG, I'm gonna vomit. :puke: If he feels people are basically good at heart then why did he start :censored: with Trayvon?
 
That "man" just makes me want to :gaah::sick:!!!

I think he'll make any stupid comment just to keep his name in the spotlight. Please make him go away!!!!!
 
The entire video interview is posted on his divorce lawyer's website along with a written transcript.

here
 

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