FL - George Zimmerman injured in Lake Mary shooting, police say

[oceanblueeyes]

Using your logic, every famous/notorious person out there is inviting trouble. If you are in the news, it's your own darn fault for anything that happens to you.

I am beginning to wonder why none of the allegations ever stuck when it comes to Zimmerman. Imo, GZ has become a man with a target on his back and its really easy to accuse him of something/anything. So many are ready to believe anything bad that comes out.

GZ is the type that is found guilty without a trial. All it takes is the accusations and they are believed. But proving allegations in court are an entirely different matter. So were some of these claims made up because GZ is an easy target? The 'everyone will believe it because I said GZ did it?' syndrome? I sure think it is a good possibility.

While some of it may be true it is odd these people had no qualms calling the police about it but every time they fail to follow through with it to court. They all knew at the time the media would pick it up and run with it though. Each one had no problem with the media and social media finding him guilty. Yet why didn't they want it proved where it really counts the most? In a court of law.

It is not GZs fault his name is in the news. From what has been said he was on his way to a doctor's appointment when MA shot at him. That is as normal as the sun coming up.

Imo, it was MA who put GZ in the spotlight when he shot at him and said he hoped he killed him THIS TIME. I think it was much more important for MA to be in the spotlight using GZ to get there. He was once again wanting his 15 minutes of fame.

And as far as him moving away and was going to see his regular doctor where he had lived that isn't uncommon either. My own brother-in-law moved from SC to Georgia last month. He is going back on Monday to see his SC doctor and also pick up his medical records.

So while some of these situations may have been GZs fault in the past this is certainly not one of them.

If I wanted to accuse someone of doing something bad GZ would be the easiest target I know. Of course I would know I couldn't prove it with evidence, but I sure could say it even if untrue, and the media would be right there with their ears perked up.

IMO

 

[cady]

Using your logic, every famous/notorious person out there is inviting trouble. If you are in the news, it's your own darn fault for anything that happens to you.

Per usual, the reaction to the post is over the top. The poster stated an opinion, and a logical one, at that. They were not speaking of EVERY known person, but of an infamous person. Relax. JMO

 

[kimlynn]

I am beginning to wonder why none of the allegations ever stuck when it comes to Zimmerman. Imo, GZ has become a man with a target on his back and its really easy to accuse him of something/anything. So many are ready to believe anything bad that comes out.

GZ is the type that is found guilty without a trial. All it takes is the accusations and they are believed. But proving allegations in court are an entirely different matter. So were some of these claims made up because GZ is an easy target? The 'everyone will believe it because I said GZ did it?' syndrome? I sure think it is a good possibility.

While some of it may be true it is odd these people had no qualms calling the police about it but every time they fail to follow through with it to court. They all knew at the time the media would pick it up and run with it though. Each one had no problem with the media and social media finding him guilty. Yet why didn't they want it proved where it really counts the most? In a court of law.

It is not GZs fault his name is in the news. From what has been said he was on his way to a doctor's appointment when MA shot at him. That is as normal as the sun coming up.

Imo, it was MA who put GZ in the spotlight when he shot at him and said he hoped he killed him THIS TIME. I think it was much more important for MA to be in the spotlight using GZ to get there. He was once again wanting his 15 minutes of fame.

And as far as him moving away and was going to see his regular doctor where he had lived that isn't uncommon either. My own brother-in-law moved from SC to Georgia last month. He is going back on Monday to see his SC doctor and also pick up his medical records.

So while some of these situations may have been GZs fault in the past this is certainly not one of them.

If I wanted to accuse someone of doing something bad GZ would be the easiest target I know. Of course I would know I couldn't prove it with evidence, but I sure could say it even if untrue, and the media would be right there with their ears perked up.

IMO

MA didn't say he hoped he killed him this time. It's reported that he said he hoped he got him this time. That could mean he hoped GZ was finally caught out...as in I got you this time. IMO

 

[jjenny]

MA didn't say he hoped he killed him this time. It's reported that he said he hoped he got him this time. That could mean he hoped GZ was finally caught out...as in I got you this time. IMO

MA shot at Zimmerman. Bullet nearly missed Zimmerman's head. I think it's pretty clear what he meant.
So I find your interpretation to be incredibly bizarre.

 

[kimlynn]

MA shot at Zimmerman. Bullet nearly missed Zimmerman's head. I think it's pretty clear what he meant.
So I find your interpretation to be incredibly bizarre.

Really? So you think MA has tried in the past to kill Zimmerman because if you take 'I hope I got him this time' to mean he hopes he killed him "this time" could only mean that MA had tried to kill GZ in the past and failed. I really doubt that MA has tried in the past to kill Zimmerman because that would make the news. IMO

 

[jjenny]

Really? So you think MA has tried in the past to kill Zimmerman because if you take 'I hope I got him this time' to mean he hopes he killed him "this time" could only mean that MA had tried to kill GZ in the past and failed. I really doubt that MA has tried in the past to kill Zimmerman because that would make the news. IMO

Maybe not tried, but wanted to. Did you read what Zimmerman told police? According to Zimmermon, Apperson told him that he didn't press charges (for the prior incidents) because he wanted to kill Zimmerman. Considering the bullet nearly missed Zimmerman's head, I don't find that too hard to believe.
I am surprised Apperson haven't been charged with attempted murder.

 

[kimlynn]

Maybe not tried, but wanted to. Did you read what Zimmerman told police? According to Zimmermon, Apperson told him that he didn't press charges (for the prior incidents) because he wanted to kill Zimmerman. Considering the bullet nearly missed Zimmerman's head, I don't find that too hard to believe.
I am surprised Apperson haven't been charged with attempted murder.

Yes I'm aware of what GZ said but IMO he isn't a person that one could believe. And unless you believe that MA has been driving around taking potshots at GZ for months 'this time' as far as killing GZ doesn't make sense.
I'm wondering if MA had tried to file against GZ for past events but was told that there wasn't enough evidence to support his claims. That could be what he meant by I hope I got him this time. Just saying....

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Maybe not tried, but wanted to. Did you read what Zimmerman told police? According to Zimmermon, Apperson told him that he didn't press charges (for the prior incidents) because he wanted to kill Zimmerman. Considering the bullet nearly missed Zimmerman's head, I don't find that too hard to believe.
I am surprised Apperson haven't been charged with attempted murder.

I think he meant the other two times he tried to egg GZ on and it did not work but it did put out the false narrative IMO so that if MA came upon GZ again he could shoot him and claim self defense.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

MA didn't say he hoped he killed him this time. It's reported that he said he hoped he got him this time. That could mean he hoped GZ was finally caught out...as in I got you this time. IMO

Ok, so he says he hoped he got him this time. Well this time he aimed a gun at GZs head firing his weapon and barely missed him. So I guess he did think he got him this time. Either way those statements show premeditation and will be testified to in court.

IMO

 

[kimlynn]

Ok, so he says he hoped he got him this time. Well this time he aimed a gun at GZs head firing his weapon and barely missed him. So I guess he did think he got him this time. Either way those statements show premeditation and will be testified to in court.

IMO

As far as we know the other altercations didn't involve MA trying to kill GZ.
I'm not sure what he meant and it could mean (got him) as in killed ,but it could also mean something else entirely.

Yes it will more than likely be used in court.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Ok, so he says he hoped he got him this time. Well this time he aimed a gun at GZs head firing his weapon and barely missed him. So I guess he did think he got him this time. Either way those statements show premeditation and will be testified to in court.

IMO

In my opinion Appersons statement "I hope I got him this time" is clear.

Shortly before he made this statement, he drew his .357, cocked the hammer back, took aim and fired at George Zimmerman with the full intention of "getting him" with the bullet.

 

[jjenny]

Yes I'm aware of what GZ said but IMO he isn't a person that one could believe. And unless you believe that MA has been driving around taking potshots at GZ for months 'this time' as far as killing GZ doesn't make sense.
I'm wondering if MA had tried to file against GZ for past events but was told that there wasn't enough evidence to support his claims. That could be what he meant by I hope I got him this time. Just saying....

Per Zimmerman, he told Zimmerman he didn't file charges because he wanted to kill Zimmerman.
Again, considering MA shot nearly missing Zimmerman's head, I find that totally believable. I also find it totally believable he thought he didn't miss and "got" Zimmerman. Considering MA fired at Zimmerman, and Zimmerman didn't fire at him, how could he possibly expect to be able to file charges this time?

 

[octobermoon]

Dumb question, but where or how would premeditation come into the charges? I know how it works in murder cases, but he is only charged with assault not attempted murder. Not even sure I am phrasing this right. TIA

 

[jjenny]

Dumb question, but where or how would premeditation come into the charges? I know how it works in murder cases, but he is only charged with assault not attempted murder. Not even sure I am phrasing this right. TIA

I personally think MA was under-charged. I am not sure why they didn't charge him with attempted murder.
Maybe they think they can't prove premeditation. I think they should look on his computer see if he complied any information on Zimmerman. Since police report says it appears Apperson has a fixation on Zimmerman, I don't think that's a far fetched idea.

 

[octobermoon]

I personally think MA was under-charged. I am not sure why they didn't charge him with attempted murder.
Maybe they think they can't prove premeditation. I think they should look on his computer see if he complied any information on Zimmerman. Since police report says it appears Apperson has a fixation on Zimmerman, I don't think that's a far fetched idea.

I was surprised they didn't charge him with it. I was just confused how premeditation would work with assault. Even if they found stuff on his computer what does it prove? He had no idea GZ was in town visiting his mother did he?

 

[kimlynn]

Per Zimmerman, he told Zimmerman he didn't file charges because he wanted to kill Zimmerman.
Again, considering MA shot nearly missing Zimmerman's head, I find that totally believable. I also find it totally believable he thought he didn't miss and "got" Zimmerman. Considering MA fired at Zimmerman, and Zimmerman didn't fire at him, how could he possibly expect to be able to file charges this time?

I didn't say he was going to file charges this time. I was wondering if he had tried to file in the past but was advised that there was no evidence to support his claims that GZ was the aggressor in past altercations.
This may be what he meant by 'I hope I got him this time' because he was frustrated by not having any way in the past to call GZ to answer for any past wrongs.
Maybe he thought his shooting at Zimmerman could be proven to be self defense so in his mind he had Zimmerman 'this time'
I really don't know and honestly was just trying to show that he could have meant something other than he hoped he got (killed) GZ.
At this point considering what losers both men seem to be.....anything could fit as to what really happened. IMO

ETA...and it's possible that GZ really did pull his weapon causing MA to fear for his life and MA was happy he got him this time. *shrug*

 

[octobermoon]

I didn't say he was going to file charges this time. I was wondering if he had tried to file in the past but was advised that there was no evidence to support his claims that GZ was the aggressor in past altercations.
This may be what he meant by 'I hope I got him this time' because he was frustrated by not having any way in the past to call GZ to answer for any past wrongs.
Maybe he thought his shooting at Zimmerman could be proven to be self defense so in his mind he had Zimmerman 'this time'
I really don't know and honestly was just trying to show that he could have meant something other than he hoped he got (killed) GZ.
At this point considering what losers both men seem to be.....anything could fit as to what really happened. IMO

When I read that, I thought he might mean he "got" him on cell phone video this time. But it could mean the shooting too. Too early to tell in this case. Hope we learn more in June when he has his first hearing.

 

[kimlynn]

When I read that, I thought he might mean he "got" him on cell phone video this time. But it could mean the shooting too. Too early to tell in this case. Hope we learn more in June when he has his first hearing.

It will be interesting for sure. I would love to know what they have as far as evidence.

 

[jjenny]

When I read that, I thought he might mean he "got" him on cell phone video this time. But it could mean the shooting too. Too early to tell in this case. Hope we learn more in June when he has his first hearing.

Apperson didn't have a cell phone. He had to ask someone else to make a call for him. So, if there is one thing certain, is that Apperson didn't mean he got Zimmerman on a cell phone video.

 

[jjenny]

It will be interesting for sure. I would love to know what they have as far as evidence.

It's not "interesting" it's impossible. Apperson didn't have a cell phone. Neither this time nor on previous occasions. He couldn't get anything on a cell phone video because he had no cell phone.