FL FL - Isabella Hellmann, 41, catamaran off Cay Sal, SE of the FL Keys, 14 May 2017 #1 *GUILTY*

[GigTu]

JMO If you do not live here, you are not married to me, and you come into MY house and take things out, you are stealing. Everything in MY house that I share with my spouse belongs to me and my spouse. No one else. JMO

Why do they want a ring she was given by a man they dislike?He probably would have given them some of her personal belongings if they had asked. How dare they change the locks to HIS home? They should be arrested. JMO

 

[Hiandmighty]

According to the find isabella facebook page, he and the baby are gone.

I can't really blame him. They are openly hostile to him and have broken into his home. He may still be in the area, just staying away from them. I would be afraid they would kidnap the baby.

Did they change his locks?!? I thought he did.

Maybe they have a prenup, but the baby would likely be left the condo and to him, as de facto guardian. I still think her family has zero rights to her condo and anything in it. Plus, he put his money into remodeling the condo.

I also think her family isn't understanding that they aren't going to find her. Her body is gone at sea. (I understand this is a tough one to accept)

 

[msphilosopher]

It is certain that even her belongings do not belong to her family. He is her surviving spouse.

They are on security camera footage trespassing. It seems cut and dry to me.

Stealing evidence is tampering with and disposal of evidence-- very very bad on their part.

Accordingly to HIM he has footage. If you're saying we can't trust things in MSM because the "family stated it" then the same thing goes for Bennet. He could have just been saying that to scare her or bullying her into handing over the items right there and then.

"The Boca Raton police report says Bennett advised Dayana Rodriguez “that he knows those items were taken from his residence and he had the security cameras to prove it.”"

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/c...and-her-disappearance/b2e2kmTC85f7B7smJamxbI/

 

[MsArk]

I think it is clear there was bad blood between Bennett and her family prior to the disappearance. Considering how close Isabella was with her family, it makes me wonder if she was confiding in one or more of her sisters that the marriage was bad. The sister's first reaction was that of him killing her which speaks volumes to me.

I don't know much about open water sailing so things the sequence of events as described by Bennett certainly may be 100% accurate. Still, the family's immediate reaction is curious.

Sad situation all the way around.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I have security cameras and I believe he does too, given how much he was away from home. I doubt he bluffed. He had LE escort him over to the house to get the items. I'm personally sure that he has proof they broke in. You are skeptical, I know. I'm not on this part.

I very much doubt he filed a false police report.

 

[msphilosopher]

I have security cameras and I believe he does too, given how much he was away from home. I doubt he bluffed. He had LE escort him over to the house to get the items. I'm personally sure that he has proof they broke in. You are skeptical, I know. I'm not on this part.

I very much doubt he filed a false police report.

I have security cameras too. And I doubt he bluffed either, my point is that several posters stated this as a matter of fact that the family DID steal. LE has not released whether this is true, but was merely stated by Bennet.

I also doubt that the sister mistakenly heard him, I'm positive she would hear his answer crystal clear when asking him point blank whether he thought she was alive or not.

The point of my devils advocate response was to bring attention that we cannot say "well the family said that so it may not be true" while at the same time take things Bennet's says as true.

Remember it is the husband who is under investigation by the FBI, not the family.

 

[Greater Than]

RBBM

Curiously, the bolded sentence above has now disappeared from the linked article.

I found a Sun Sentinel article that says the same, however:

"Husband now part of inquiry into Delray woman missing at sea, report says"
By WPEC-CBS 12, Gary Detman
WPEC-CBS12
MAY 31, 2017, 7:00 PM
"...
The police officer and Bennett decided it was best for him to leave.

Police next contacted an investigator with the U.S. Marshals, who said Bennett is the subject of a probe into his wife’s disappearance, the report said.
..." (BBM)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/p...ance-at-sea-investigation-20170531-story.html

It says "To read the full report click here" at the bottom of the article, and the link takes you to the cbs12 article (the one Greater Than posted above and is written by the same reporter), so ... it may be a matter of time before the bit about the police contacting the U.S. Marshals is deleted from the Sun Sentinel article as well. Maybe LE did not want this information known to the general public -and Bennett in particular-, and asked MSM to remove it?

Here is a link to the police report. The narrative on page 4 includes the information referenced in the article.

https://media.local10.com/document_...ident report_1496322195145_9885983_ver1.0.pdf

 

[Greater Than]

Isabella Hellmann's close friend opens up about marriage troubles

A close friend of the Delray Beach missing woman is opening up about her last conversations with her friend before she disappeared from her husband's boat, what Isabella Hellmann told her about her marriage.

[...]

"She did told me that everything changed after the baby was here. He [Bennett] changed completely. They argued a lot about basically everything that had to do with the baby girl," said Muller.

[...]

She said Isabella admitted Bennett wanted her to move to Australia, but she did not want to go.

"They were arguing a lot and told me and she told me he asked her that she had to move there because it would be a better future for the baby girl Emilia and she told me she wasn't planning on going anywhere, her family lives here and she didn't like Australia," said Muller.

Muller resents Bennett for leaving the country with the now 10-month-old baby.

"He took the baby girl and the family is devastated," said Muller.

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-s-p...close-friend-opens-up-about-marriage-troubles

 

[Hiandmighty]

If it is true that he is under investgation, where did he go and does LE know his whereabouts?

 

[Hiandmighty]

I have security cameras too. And I doubt he bluffed either, my point is that several posters stated this as a matter of fact that the family DID steal. LE has not released whether this is true, but was merely stated by Bennet.

I also doubt that the sister mistakenly heard him, I'm positive she would hear his answer crystal clear when asking him point blank whether he thought she was alive or not.

The point of my devils advocate response was to bring attention that we cannot say "well the family said that so it may not be true" while at the same time take things Bennet's says as true.

Remember it is the husband who is under investigation by the FBI, not the family.

Her disappearance is under investigation by FBI. http://fox13now.com/2017/05/26/florida-woman-missing-at-sea-fbi-coast-guard-investigating/

The US Marshals are apparently investigating him. https://www.local10.com/news/florid...tigation-in-delray-beach-womans-disappearance


Difference between the two: http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-fbi-and-u-s-marshal/

 

[msphilosopher]

Her disappearance is under investigation by FBI. http://fox13now.com/2017/05/26/florida-woman-missing-at-sea-fbi-coast-guard-investigating/

The US Marshals are apparently investigating him. https://www.local10.com/news/florid...tigation-in-delray-beach-womans-disappearance


Difference between the two: http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-fbi-and-u-s-marshal/

Thanks hiandmighty! I correct my statement to HE is under investigation not the family.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Here are my fundamental problems with blaming him:

1) no way he flipped the catamaran

2) no one puts themselves in a life raft at the mercy of the ocean unless it is life or death situation. Life rafts are NOT safe. They are last resort options

These are my hold outs. Until I get reasonable explanations for both, I think this was an accident...

 

[Hiandmighty]

Thanks hiandmighty! I correct my statement to HE is under investigation not the family.

I'm still skeptical about the us marahals investigating "him" because the reports stem from one line in that police report by an officer who admits he is unfamilar with the story; in other words, it is "hearsay".

I'd like US Marshals to come out and issue a statement saying he is under investigation.

He is apparently not under investigation by FBI.

 

[msphilosopher]

LE confirms in a police report that the US Marshall's said the husband is under investigation.

Lmao... you can't get much more official than that.

FBI is investigating the disappearance, which could mean that he is or isn't under investigation. No where have they said he is NOT under investigation.

 

[Hiandmighty]

That is not official at all. Maybe marshal said investigation into disappearance and LE took that to mean he is under investigation. He is likely under investigation as part of investigation into her disappearance... doesn't mean he is a suspect in a crime.

See, these are things why her family needs to back off. They are blurrying the scene.

If they hadn't allegedly broken into the condo, I would think oh yeah, they are investigating him. Look at the evidence tape on the door. But now I'm not sure because he filed a police report stating they broke in and took items.

In any event, he wasn't apparently named as a person of interest or a suspect and he is apparently free to go where he wants to. Her family assumes he left the country.

So let's speculate that he killed her, somehow sunk his boat and took his chance on a life raft and a rescue....

1) no body
2) evidence of a collision on the boat
3) he needed rescue
4) unimpeded passport, left US
5) if family broke in, evidence is compromised and will likely be not admissible

One could argue her family was so hostile, they drove him to leave. They would have done better playing coy and making him feel wanted (like how sharon rocha has to do a little with scott Peterson).

I hate to sound like a defense atty because I want to yell that he did it. I can't though at this point. His actions to me sound reasonable once he discovered her missing and the boat sinking.

 

[TTF14]

Here are my fundamental problems with blaming him:

1) no way he flipped the catamaran

2) no one puts themselves in a life raft at the mercy of the ocean unless it is life or death situation. Life rafts are NOT safe. They are last resort options

These are my hold outs. Until I get reasonable explanations for both, I think this was an accident...

Good points. He could have had help, though, from another boat??

It wouldn't be the first time someone killed just to get their kid in the locale they wanted..... http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...r-Tallahassee-18-July-2014-5-*Arrests*/page46

 

[Hiandmighty]

I'm going to read that. My first reply is: it's also not the first time a wife went overboard during a sailing with her husband and no foul play existed.

 

[Hiandmighty]

"Police say that after Sunday’s incident, the officer reached out to a federal contact to advise him of the incident and learned of a federal investigation into the disappearance of Hellmann, a 41-year-old real-estate broker.

The Coast Guard and the FBI have confirmed they are jointly conducting a “missing person investigation” into the disappearance. But neither has said specifically that it is targeting Bennett or even that it is looking into the possibility of foul play."

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/c...and-her-disappearance/b2e2kmTC85f7B7smJamxbI/

This report was updated last night and is after the officer wrote that one sentence in his police report.

 

[LaneGirl]

Here are my fundamental problems with blaming him:

1) no way he flipped the catamaran

2) no one puts themselves in a life raft at the mercy of the ocean unless it is life or death situation. Life rafts are NOT safe. They are last resort options

These are my hold outs. Until I get reasonable explanations for both, I think this was an accident...

As to #1 just a quick google search of catamaran flipping brings up quite a few stories, etc of catamarans flipping (cruisers). This is what I found...

"It all comes down to how you sail your catamaran.

If you sail it like a bat out of hell, you may actually be able to flip it over.

If you let your autopilot steer when you should be steering by hand, you may flip it over.

If you sail in severe conditions when you should be towing a drogue or lying to a parachute, you may flip it over".


Is this incorrect information?

 

[NewMama]

Here is a link to the police report. The narrative on page 4 includes the information referenced in the article.

https://media.local10.com/document_...ident report_1496322195145_9885983_ver1.0.pdf

I'm getting an "access denied" message via my mobile. I'm interested in reading the police report, though. I've been following along. Such a mystery!