FL FL - Isabella Hellmann, 41, catamaran off Cay Sal, SE of the FL Keys, 14 May 2017 #1 *GUILTY*

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  • #801
Has anyone found the transcripts from Ashleigh Banfield's Primetime Justice report for tonight? I have looked for them, but haven't seen them yet. Thx.
 
  • #802
whoa! just stated fbi has cat in their possession in a warehouse somewhere

The reporter who stated that the FBI has the catamaran in a warehouse is Karen Curtis from WFTL Radio. I don't know if she or her station are reliable sources, but that's who said it on Primetime Justice.
 
  • #803
Has anyone found the transcripts from Ashleigh Banfield's Primetime Justice report for tonight? I have looked for them, but haven't seen them yet. Thx.

The transcript is usually available by the next morning after the show airs. Sometimes they post the transcript in the middle of the night. Just keep checking.
 
  • #804
[video=twitter;871884609763500032]https://twitter.com/ptjusticehln/status/871884609763500032[/video]
 
  • #805
Does anyone here think maybe he paid someone with clout to look the other way???


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  • #806
Maybe, but the CG stated they saw no holes in the hulls.
Could be damage below the waterline... from the pics, most of it was underwater.


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The transcript from last night's Primetime Justice is up

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1706/05/ptab.01.html

"I want to start with Karen Curtis. She`s the news director for WFTL radio in West Palm Beach, Florida. .....

CURTIS: Well, they were able to find the boat. It`s a 37-foot catamaran, and they do have it in their possession, the FBI does, in a warehouse. So they are examining it forensically to see, you know, exactly what happened, if things match up with his story."
 
  • #810
Aired June 5, 2017 - 20:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

[20:00:01] ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HLN HOST (voice-over): Washed overboard sailing to the islands.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are some inconsistencies...

BANFIELD: Her husband says one minute she was on deck, the next she was gone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They were arguing a lot.

BANFIELD: But is he telling the truth?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything changed after the baby was here.

BANFIELD: What happened to beautiful Isabella, and why is the FBI involved?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe there`s a miracle that is going to happen.

BANFIELD: Hello, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. This is PRIMETIME JUSTICE.

Have you ever dreamed of grabbing the one you love and setting sail for the islands? It`s like the perfect honeymoon. And that is exactly what

Isabella Hellman was thinking as she planned and packed and posted about her big adventure with her new husband, Lewis Bennett. They were off on a

37-foot catamaran, nothing but blue skies and a full sail and the ocean spray. Isabella could not contain herself, gushing on Facebook,

"Caribbean, here I come."

But somewhere between Cuba and the Florida Keys, the deep ocean blue became a dark night of terror. And it all started when Lewis put in a distress

call about 1:00 AM. He said the boat was taking on water. They`d hit something in the blackness of night. Isabella was nowhere to be found. So

Lewis jumped into the raft and escaped with his life.

For three days, they searched for Isabella, the U.S. Coast Guard finally calling it off after 7,000 square miles. But the grieving husband did not

get a comforting welcome from his in-laws. He was instead met by accusations that he killed her. Isabella`s sister recalls the last phone

call she had before Isabella disappeared at sea.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DAYANA, ISABELLA`S SISTER: She called me and said, Oh, hi. We disconnected the phone. It`s been really hard for us to connect it because

his friend told me it`s hard. And then she said, I`m in the middle of the ocean right now. We left Cuba. She didn`t tell me what time, but she

said, We left Cuba. And that`s it and she said, I`ll see you tomorrow.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BANFIELD: While the Coast Guard called off the search for Isabella, the FBI is just getting started on its search for answers.

I want to start with Karen Curtis. She`s the news director for WFTL radio in West Palm Beach, Florida. Karen, where does this case stand? Where is

this husband right now?

KAREN CURTIS, WFTL RADIO (via telephone): Lewis Bennett is -- has not been declared an actual suspect. He`s a known person in an investigation. The

FBI is involved because this happened on the high seas. It`s an accident, but if there needs to be an arrest, the FBI would be the agency to do it.

So Lewis Bennett -- we didn`t even know the FBI was involved here in Florida until Lewis Bennett called the Bogota (ph) Police Department to go

to his in-laws` apartment to get some items that he felt were stolen, and he wanted a civil assist from the police department to go with him. And

when the police showed up, the sister started yelling that, you know, you killed my sister. So the...

[20:05:16]BANFIELD: So wait -- go back. Wait. Go back. Items that were stolen. He came back to his home, and as I understand it, he`s now missing

an iPad, clothing, handbags, an engagement ring, and he suspects that they are at Isabella`s sister`s place?

CURTIS: Yes, he did, and he says that he has videotape to prove it. But the police said, Look, you need to leave, and that`s when they called the

Coast Guard and the FBI, and the FBI said, Yes, we`re looking into this...

BANFIELD: Well, why all the suspicion?

CURTIS: ... disappearance.

BANFIELD: Why on earth would they not think right away, My God, our sister has had this terrible accident with her newlywed husband? Why all of a

sudden the suspicion that he did it, in their mind?

CURTIS: Well, this happened, ironically enough, on Mother`s Day. And she really didn`t want to leave the 9-month-old. She had the baby. They got

married in February in Atlanta, and then they went on this honeymoon a couple mounts later.

And she was telling her sisters that -- and her friends that they weren`t really getting along, that Lewis was, you know, not letting her pierce the

baby`s ears, and you know, she didn`t -- wasn`t able to spell the baby`s name in the Colombian way. And there were just all kinds of arguments on

how to feed the baby. And he wanted to take the baby to Australia, she did not want to leave Dell Ray Beach (ph). So there was that.

But we don`t even know where he is right now, quite honestly, Ashleigh, because he did tell someone that his passport went down with the boat, but

it`s possible that he`s either in England or he is either in Australia. And he did say that...

BANFIELD: So he`s left the country? He`s not in the U.S. right now?

CURTIS: He may not be, but he did say he lost his passport, but he said he went to Cuba last week to look for her. So it`s very strange.

BANFIELD: OK. So listen, I`ve been the mother of a 9-month-old, and I can tell you firsthand that first year, there`s a lot of nasty words exchanged.

You`re lacking sleep. You`re exhausted. So if there was some consternation between the two of them over the baby, it could be explained

away by first year of parenting.

And I look at Isabella`s Facebook, and on May 2nd from Culebo (ph), Puerto Rico, she posted "Another day in paradise" and had this photograph where it

looked as though they were really having the time of their lives. And none of her posts suggested anything was wrong. Instead, that this vacation was

fabulous.

CURTIS: Yes, he went down -- they had just left Cuba, and he went down about 8:00 PM to go to sleep and left her up on deck with a lifevest. But

she was piloting the boat. Then at 1:00 AM, he says that the boat hit something. He went up top and she wasn`t up there. He was able to get a

beacon and the lifeboat, and that`s when the Coast Guard found him at 4:00 AM somewhere about 40 miles west of the Bahamas.

BANFIELD: Is there something weird about that, Karen? I mean, he`s a sailor. I don`t know how much Isabella was a sailor, but to go down below

at around 8:30 at night, I`m tired, and to be sleeping until 1:00 AM while your wife is on the helm and then mysteriously, they hit something in the

darkness. The hull is damaged. She`s presumably, if you believe his story, swept off the boat. Was she a sailor who could man the helm by

herself at night?

CURTIS: They had met on line four years ago, and she would meet up with him. He was really never on Florida. She would meet up with him on the

boat here and there around the world. And so there -- I guess she did sail with him a little bit, but it`s not been established that she was actually

a mariner, you know, could sail a boat at night, which is not easy.

BANFIELD: No. I don`t want to suggest for a minute that a woman can`t do that. I sailed around (INAUDIBLE) for six days as a captain of a 30-foot

sailboat. So I know that she could do it. But I think that might be the first question that police would suggest. Why is the husband, the dad,

heading down below for a nap at 8:00 o`clock at night?

Here`s my next question. They were leaving Cuba and they headed, Karen, for the Keys. It is only about 100 miles and it is not a long sail. And

yet they left at 5:00 o`clock or so in the evening, which would put them in -- sailing in the darkness. Is that curious? Is that typical for them?

Has anyone asked that question?

CURTIS: You`re right. The timeframe is a little bit long because it is only 90 miles through the Florida Straits. So they were just off of the

Bahamas, about 40 miles off of one of the keys there. So it`s not clear what happened and why it took them so long.

BANFIELD: OK, one other question, the damage to the hull. There is a suggestion that the authorities say an unknown submerged object came in

contact with that hull. Have they forensically looked at that hull to see about the damage, whether it actually was consistent with that story or

whether it was, say, perhaps man-made damage?

CURTIS: Well, they were able to find the boat. It`s a 37-foot catamaran, and they do have it in their possession, the FBI does, in a warehouse. So

they are examining it forensically to see, you know, exactly what happened, if things match up with his story. You know, it`s odd to hit something in

the middle of the ocean, what it would be. It`s very odd.

[20:10:15]BANFIELD: Well, that brings me to Steve Moore, who`s a former FBI agent and a CNN law enforcement contributor. Steve, you just heard

those facts and the pattern. I can see this both ways. How do you see it?

STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, I can see it both ways, but one way is really concerning me. There are some things in here that

are just -- it would -- each -- each one of these individual things could possibly have happened, but they would be unlikely. To have five or six

unlikely things happen in a row -- plus, you have some information that`s hard to explain -- it makes me very suspicious. It turns on the FBI

investigator switch in me.

BANFIELD: So would you be thinking right away, OK, they`re kind of newlyweds. They have a 9-month-old baby together. Let`s look for life

insurance, or would you be going the other route, and that`s the forensic route? I want to see where the damage to that hull came and whether it

looks like it was man-made or it was, say, maybe a container that was floating in the deep blue sea at night that no one could ever see if they

were sailing at night?

MOORE: Well, Ashleigh, as an FBI agent, I wouldn`t be called in on this unless somebody already had suspicions. The FBI doesn`t sit out at the

yacht harbor. What happened here is almost undoubtedly the Coast Guard called the FBI and said, From our professional opinion, something`s not

matching up here.

And then when you read the story -- I, as an FBI agent, I`ll read his statement and he said that, We hit some submerged object. If you were

down. Well, if you were down in the cabin asleep and came up and she was gone, how do you know what you hit? How do you know it was submerged? How

do you know you didn`t hit something -- something that was...

BANFIELD: I`ll answer that question. I`ll answer that question. If you`re in real deep water and you hit something, it`s a submerged object

because it ain`t a coral reef, and maybe that`s why.

I feel like I have an answer to every one of his statements, but I feel like I can actually back up every one of his statements, as well.

I do have this question. And I know that you wouldn`t be out there, you know, ticking (ph) away with the forensic tools on the hull of the yacht,

but would you be curious as to whether there was anything in the liferaft, meaning if this was all a plot that he actually orchestrated, would he get

into a liferaft in the middle of the night between Cuba and Florida and risk his life with no water, no food, nothing?

MOORE: If he -- hypothetically, if the boat was the scene of a murder and he wanted to get the boat under salt water, that`s his main option. And he

had an eperb (ph). He had the tracker, so it wasn`t a low probability that he was going to be found. The other thing...

BANFIELD: (INAUDIBLE) the non-mariners. Let`s let the audience know those awesome eperbs are -- they can often exist on your watch. And you

literally just, like, Let them go, and it`s a beacon. It says, I`m here, help me, I`m in distress. And it`s for this exact scenario. You`re out in

the middle of the ocean. It is real hard to find you. You might be alone at some point, and you need to be rescued. That`s what the eperb is. So

it is not suspicious. It is not suspicious that he would have an eperb.

MOORE: No, but it -- no, you better have an eperb. But the fact that he knew he had an eperb would -- especially in good weather, would kind of

ease any concern you might have about whether you are found if you had to abandon your boat. The other thing was, how hard did he hit it that she

was thrown off? And if she was wearing a lifevest, why isn`t she floating?

BANFIELD: It is so mysterious! Real quickly, Karen Curtis, if you`re with me, do we know thinking about a life insurance policy? Do we know whether

there was one, whether it`s been accessed or is that all silence?

CURTIS: No, we don`t know anything in terms of any life insurance policy that he may or may not have had on her. They had only been married since

February, so -- but he does have the baby, and the family said, Please don`t take the baby out of the country because that`s the last vestige that

we have of our sister, you know, is this baby, and he`s somewhere with the baby.

BANFIELD: Well, the plot thickens, and clearly, with the FBI involved, this story is not over. We`ll keep track of the clues as they come in and

we`ll update our audience. Karen Curtis, Steve Moore, thank you both. Do appreciate it.


http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1706/05/ptab.01.html
 
  • #811
The FBI has it. The clearly got it on their own if the Coast Guard was unaware.

Wow. Just hearing about how the FBI supposedly has the Cat in their possession.

This is really good news to try to get to the truth of what really happened. I think they will be able to determine if a hole was done accidentally or on purpose.

If someone was to use like a gun to shoot a hole in the hull then it would be obvious. If someone used like a crowbar then it may take multiple hits and that may be obvious too.

I suppose it could get difficult to tell depending on how it was done.

Lets hope there is evidence that tells FBI whether it was accident or on purpose. If he is innocent of anything then lets hope FBI can prove that too. We just want the truth either way. I hope the FBI can determine the truth.
 
  • #812
ex-FBI agent, about wondering if LB would put himself at risk in order to cover up a murder:

MOORE: If he -- hypothetically, if the boat was the scene of a murder and he wanted to get the boat under salt water, that`s his main option. And he

had an eperb (ph). He had the tracker, so it wasn`t a low probability that he was going to be found. The other thing ... was, how hard did he hit it that she

was thrown off? And if she was wearing a lifevest, why isn`t she floating?


That's right ex-FBI agent, LB was armed with enough electronics that he knew he would be found within hours, I'm so glad he noticed that too! LB also had a satellite phone too, where he made calls to the coast guard, his business partner, and his sister-in-law from that life raft!!
 
  • #813
I know there are discrepencies whether FBI really has the Cat or not.

I could see them keeping quiet about it if they went and retrieved it themselves. It would be costly to retrieve it. But it is doable.

They could either tow it back close to shore and then use a crane with straps near the shore to load it on a flatbed. Or have a large enough ship pull up to hoist it aboard another ship. Ship would need a crane with straps.

Both options are doable. The question is did the FBI do that or not.

I dont know why the news director would say they have it unless they somehow found out the FBI has it.
 
  • #814
I wish they would have asked the news director how she knew the FBI has the boat in their possession. How does she know that for sure?

Not to reveal her source but to at least ask how she came about that information. I am surprised that was not asked of her.
 
  • #815
I wish they would have asked the news director how she knew the FBI has the boat in their possession. How does she know that for sure?

Not to reveal her source but to at least ask how she came about that information. I am surprised that was not asked of her.

Someone asked that in the only comment on their most recent article: http://www.850wftl.com/husband-missing-local-woman-now-investigation/

It's somewhat strange that WTFL has no mention of this "exclusive" on their website, though their website is fairly poor, I don't see a local news section.
 
  • #816
Someone asked that in the only comment on their most recent article: http://www.850wftl.com/husband-missing-local-woman-now-investigation/

It's somewhat strange that WTFL has no mention of this "exclusive" on their website, though their website is fairly poor, I don't see a local news section.

I hope she was accurate about it. It has me wondering if the FBI told her and the show to say that even if not true to try to further the case.

If he is in hiding then the FBI maybe trying to locate him.
 
  • #817
Am I understanding this correctly...It only takes 90 minutes to sail from Cuba to the Keys? If that's the case, shouldn't they have been there before he went below deck to sleep?
 
  • #818
Am I understanding this correctly...It only takes 90 minutes to sail from Cuba to the Keys? If that's the case, shouldn't they have been there before he went below deck to sleep?


Did you read 90 miles vs. 90 minutes?

" A 50-foot sail boat would take about 15 to 20 hours for the sail from Key West, more like two days from Miami. A fast speed boat could make it Miami to Havana in maybe 10 hours, depending on weather and sea state."

"It is 90 miles to Havana from Key West. It is 250 statute miles from Miami to Havana"

https://www.quora.com/How-long-is-the-boat-ride-from-Miami-to-Cuba
 
  • #819
I am just now this am listening to the radio station that Karen Curtis is with.

She was JUST ON the Rick Stevens show! http://www.850wftl.com/shows/rich-stevens/

And said that they have not located the catamaran on the radio! No link, I was just live streaming that station this am to see if they mentioned it. I have a feeling that she mispoke, and had just interpreted that breaking news incorrectly from the Palm Beach paper who had a headline of "Coast Guard has lost boat".. as to meaning that "has" meant in their possession?

ETA: If so, she sure did embellish as a reporter that it was in a warehouse!

The transcript from last night's Primetime Justice is up

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1706/05/ptab.01.html

"I want to start with Karen Curtis. She`s the news director for WFTL radio in West Palm Beach, Florida. .....

CURTIS: Well, they were able to find the boat. It`s a 37-foot catamaran, and they do have it in their possession, the FBI does, in a warehouse. So they are examining it forensically to see, you know, exactly what happened, if things match up with his story."
 
  • #820
Wow. Just hearing about how the FBI supposedly has the Cat in their possession.

This is really good news to try to get to the truth of what really happened. I think they will be able to determine if a hole was done accidentally or on purpose.

If someone was to use like a gun to shoot a hole in the hull then it would be obvious. If someone used like a crowbar then it may take multiple hits and that may be obvious too.

I suppose it could get difficult to tell depending on how it was done.

Lets hope there is evidence that tells FBI whether it was accident or on purpose. If he is innocent of anything then lets hope FBI can prove that too. We just want the truth either way. I hope the FBI can determine the truth.

I think it should be fairly obvious if the damage to the hull was made from the inside or outside, correct? He would have to have done it from inside the hull (if he did it).
 
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