From the animation...
Cadaver Dog alerted on both lakes. Mango lake is shown in S1E2. Mango was first and most recently Darby which I dove. I have been to both lakes.From the animation...
Cadaver dog alerted at Darby Lake, right?
What’s the significance of Mango Lake?
When’s the trip to Bagaces, CR?
Side note: that is the best “an-arrest-is-coming” background music ever!
Last question: Is Sheriff Chronister ever going to admit that his septic permit/install info for BCR is incorrect?
Again, awesome work. Big fan of the series.
Hey @Treetop, I’m wondering if you know much about Carole’s flight training & experience? When she trained, where she trained, who was her instructor? Why do you think she chose to leave Don’s van at Pilot Country Estates? There must be dozens of other tiny airports & airstrips that didn’t document flights in the Tampa area. As a pilot she would have known about those. Do you think she was unaware of the falling-out Don had with the manager (owner?), “Dewey”(what’s-his-name)? Or did she just assume no one else would know about that? When was that falling-out? Just wondering if it occurred after Don & CB were already on the rocks... I’m sure LE would have interviewed him & learned of the animosity. Which should have raised red flags. Imo. Just wondering what you thought! @PatLaurel might have some ideas/knowledge/insight too!
@Mike Turber | 5X5 NEWS, thank you for your replies. Looking forward to those Vegas predicted new episodes, for sure. Like you, I’m in this through arrest & conviction. Thanks for joining us here. Please pop in to give us some progress heads-up when you can. We’re ALL EARS here!
I have never met Carole so everything I have learned has been second hand or through my own research. My research shows she got a student license in late 1996. In an interview I did with Netflix one of the producers told me that she (Carole) told them she was taking lessons at PCE. I don't know who was instructing her, I do know at one point her father was a flight instructor but I don't know if his license was current in that time frame. I learned about the falling out Don and Dewey had over some airplanes on consignment from one of his family members. They never told me how much Don lost but I have latter learned it was a substantial amount of money and that he would have never returned to that airport. Carole must have known Dewey. Why they would pick that airport is conjecture at this point. I'm hoping with the renewed interest in this case it will be solved soon. BTW I would be remiss if I didn't again give a shout out to PatLaurel for the amazing research she has done on this case.
Yes! @PatLaurel has been digging up awesome stuff since the beginning of our thread here! It would make sense if CB had done her training at PCE; she would have comfort & familiarity with where to park that van so it wouldn’t draw too much attention, yet just the right amount of delayed attention. Was Dewey ever an instructor? When CB’s dad was instructing, did he give lessons from PCE? That might hint at who would have been the most likely pair to get that van up there & return to Tampa the night of the “milk run for the cubs”. I’m hoping this case is brought to justice soon too. Thanks for your insight!
For me, the plane theory is out. No planes have been reported missing after all these years, no wreckage found, so crash unlikely. Friends, family & flight instructor emphatically & unanimously agree that Don stopped dealing with aviation after his last serious Pensacola power-line crash- so no under-the-radar flight to Costa Rica. And if CB- or “help”- flew him out over water to dump his body, they’d be taking a huge risk, imo. His body could have washed ashore. Witnesses could have seen someone struggle to get him in or out of the plane- or carry him from van to plane. Very hard to open that plane door against wind at 80-120mph! I think CB is way too smart & conniving for that. I think she shot Don, had her accomplice do the meat-grinding dirty-work, then distributed his remains in a lake, probably Don’s lake house, as Trish Farr’s testimony indicates. That way no evidence in a plane, septic tank, tiger cage or anything that can be directly associated with CB- no tiger coughing up a hairball with phalange fragments sticking out for visitors or staff to see. Best scene scenario at this point is to locate the disposal site, then a tooth for dna, & have a key player confess for full immunity. Imo, jmo, moo, etc.
I’m thinking CB too smart for the septic tank idea, but ya never know! Getting back to the cadaver dog alerting at the lakes... Since the visibility of that water is so bad, could a metal detector be used? It could possibly locate a tooth with a gold/ silver/ copper/ amalgam filling, or a bullet, syringe or gun. Could also use one of those construction site magnet sweepers underwater. I’m just thinking if the meat-grinder scenario is reality, finding bone fragments in that murky water so many years of sediment later is very needle-in-a-haystack. If Don’s dental records show metal fillings- especially quite a few, this could help find that one tooth helpful to drive this case forward. It’s an idea...
I’ve been wondering about those bones too. Most industrial meat grinders claim to handle the soft or small bones with ease. So hands, feet, wrists, ankles, ribs, spine could have gone through, imo. Even the skull, if crushed with sledgehammer, could have passed. Maybe radius, ulna, patella & fibula. The problem bones are pelvis, femur, tibia, humerus. Guessing. Not a meat-grinding or body disposal expert. I still think too risky to feed to tigers- so many staff, volunteers & visitors to notice scat, barf & irregularities of feeding schedule. Gators or hogs very likely. On Don’s property, but not BCR or personal residence. Imo, jmo, moo, etc. I think CB is extremely smart and very purposeful. Motive multi-million dollar estate, power, preservation of goal to be high-profile animal rights activist, & narcissistic personality. Again, jmo, moo...
