FL FL - Jacquelyn 'Jackie' Markham, 51, Callahan, 14 Dec 2000

  • #21
I absolutely believe that Archie had something to do with Jack Markham’s disappearance. I have pieced together a short video where I dissect a portion of Archie Carroll’s interview on the Disappeared episode and break down multiple “tells” that Archie displays which prove he is being deceptive.

Jackie Markham - YouTube

Archie’s friends, coworkers and family members should be investigated to see if any of them have a black/dark blue truck similar to the one that the neighbor saw at the house the day of the disappearance.

Why were cadaver/tracking dogs not utilized to track Jackie's scent from the house and near the tire tracks in her backyard?

Why were cadaver/tracking dogs not utilized near the location where Jackie's purse was found?

The purse was wiped clean of all fingerprints, which leads me to believe that the purse was placed there in the ditch to be found.

Is there no video footage of Jackie at the pharmacy the day of her disappearance?

I would form a search party with cadaver dogs and search the hunting areas that Archie is known to frequent. I would question his hunting buddies and find specific locations. I would also send in divers to drag the bottom of any lake near these hunting grounds.

Archie is an experienced truck driver perhaps he hid the body along one of his common driving routes. A place that he knew of ahead of and picked out ahead of time.

I noticed in the Disappeared episode that Archie states that they started setting up the Christmas tree on Tuesday night. Later in the episode her son in law states that when he entered her house that the tree was still not complete.

Also in the episode Archie tells the story of Jackie’s supposed last phone call to him and how she tells him that Richard is there drunk and also states that Richard is the boyfriend that “Works over at CSX railroad.” Interestingly enough the purse ends up over on the railroad tracks almost as if it was planted there to put investigators on Richards trail.

Archie states that he got to Jackie's house and there was "No Jackie and no purse." Why would he be looking for her purse specifically? My first thought in this situation would not be to look for a purse. Most women have multiple purses how does he know which purse to look for?

Who was Archie's roommate that is mentioned in the episode? Does he own a truck?
 
  • #22
7/9 2013 Cold Case: Investigators Seeking New Clues in 13 Year Old Disappearance

Investigators tell Action News they are retesting evidence from the scene, and conducting new tests on additional evidence.

Detective Jeff Stull thinks the new tests will point to a person of interest, someone already investigated in the case.

"I do believe there was some jealousy spurned. There was some arguments between her and Archie Carroll," Stull said
Story and video here
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...g-New-Clues-in-13/VPfPJeM7GUOjRGi86UG4Ow.cspx
 
  • #23
Strange that they used a voice stress kind of lie detector instead of the more traditional kind.
I thought that too. My understanding is lie detectors are very questionable scientifically. Their use is in psyching out a liar by making him wonder if the machine will find him out. That may cause him to make some mistake in his lying.
I suspect the police go along with it for this reason and because they really wish they had some tool that would do what lie detector supposedly does.
Are the tests blinded? Could different readers look at the results and get the same conclusions without any knowledge of the suspects' story?

If I were wrongly accused of a crime, I would probably not take a lie detector. I suspect it comes down to whether you can make the examiner and other police officers believe your account, but that's risky because they can use that desire to get a suspect to say things that aren't completely true. I wish the lie detector worked, but I don't believe it in.

So I think they can use voice stress, infrared camera, eye tacker, or other things like that that aren't traditionally lie detectors. The important thing is that the police convey a genuine belief that the test might work enough to give the suspect fear it might work.
 
  • #24
The purse was wiped clean of all fingerprints, which leads me to believe that the purse was placed there in the ditch to be found.
Yes

I noticed in the Disappeared episode that Archie states that they started setting up the Christmas tree on Tuesday night. Later in the episode her son in law states that when he entered her house that the tree was still not complete.
Interesting

Also in the episode Archie tells the story of Jackie’s supposed last phone call to him and how she tells him that Richard is there drunk and also states that Richard is the boyfriend that “Works over at CSX railroad.” Interestingly enough the purse ends up over on the railroad tracks almost as if it was planted there to put investigators on Richards trail.
Yes. Maybe he didn't know Richard would have a good alibi. I'm not sure why he would carry on with this, though, now that he knows Richard has an alibi.

Archie states that he got to Jackie's house and there was "No Jackie and no purse." Why would he be looking for her purse specifically? My first thought in this situation would not be to look for a purse. Most women have multiple purses how does he know which purse to look for?
Yes! I didn't notice that. I don't even know which purse my wife uses. I know her wallet, keys, phone, and computer. But I wouldn't notice a purse being gone.


Regarding the video, I had the same feeling, but I couldn't put it into words. I found the the comment about not meeting his maker with a bad rap bizarre. A rap sounds like a legal problem, like you don't really believe in the law. "I don't think there's anything wrong with smoking pot, but I don't want that rap hanging over me when I go to renew my medical license." That makes sense. "They're saying I committed premeditated murder. I don't want that rap hanging over me when I die." That's bizarre. Who cares about the rap? You're talking about killing a grandmother in cold blood!

The thing about being not chipped out of that stone may be normal for that region, but it sounds odd to me.

I also found it odd that he seemed exasperated.

Maybe the scripted sound to it and the exasperation are due to him having answered these questions hundreds of times over that last ten years. It could also be that he's guilty.

Under no circumstances can I imagine being accused of murder and saying if I did it I'd be afraid to face God. I would be nonplussed by the very notion of people thing I had something to do with a murder.
 
  • #25
Just watching this on Disappeared. Had to take a break when I heard this line: "The house was not processed." Seriously?????????????? I guess that's why they decided to reexamine the case in 2013. They were really "examining" the case for the first time.
 
  • #26
Bumping for jackie.
 
  • #27
I just watched a replay of the Disappeared episode for Jackie Markham. I do think that the boyfriend Archie has something to do with her being missing.

The account of their visit to her daughter's house for Thanksgiving makes him sound very possessive of her. She couldn't leave the room without him following her sounds really creepy.

He sounds like he was stalking her, too. She told him she was going one place and ended up at a different place. He ends up checking up on her to see if she is where she said and that is creepy. She calls him on the phone to tell him not to come over and he comes over to check up on her. Those are just the ones that he admits to doing.

The weirdness about staying at her house all night waiting for her to come home. Did he want to confront her other boyfriend? He sounds very jealous and possessive. He asks the neighbor to come over the next morning and check out the house. What was that all about?

I think that he came over to her house for their date and they got into an argument. Either intentionally or accidentally she is mortally wounded, falls and hits her head or similar. The boyfriend has all night to dispose of the body and clean up the house. The tire tracks in the back yard make sense to move the body without the neighbors seeing anything. The house is not even processed right away. He has plenty of time to clean up. Also the missing rug from the trunk of his car is weird. I know he eventually gave the police a rug to process and it was released but was it the right rug?

A poster up-thread had a good idea about checking Archie's hunting grounds with cadaver dogs. Why has none of this been done?

I hope she is found so this family can have some peace.
 
  • #28
Just watched this case on Disappeared. Bumping for Jackie :bump:
 
  • #29
Missed the latest edition of Jackie's story on I.D. Has there ever been an arrest of the b.f.?
 
  • #30
I'm not 100% convinced about this but I don't think the boyfriend was involved. He seemed really distraught over Jackie's disappearance and was even willing to go on the program even though LE and the family were suspicious about him. Either way, I'm surprise there have been a lack of developments and I'm hoping the family receives closure soon.
 
  • #31
Bumping for Jackie. You are not forgotten.


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  • #32
Bumping for Jackie.
 
  • #33
If ever a case deserves a bump it is this one.

IMHO the original investigation was inept.

The boyfriend needs to be questioned by a hard nosed detective.

It can be solved. Time for a cold case squad? I think so.
 
  • #34
The so called boyfriend who wasn't her boyfriend in my opinion is guilty as sin. What a psychopath.


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  • #35
Bumping for Jackie. I have just finished watching her Disappeared episode (thought I had seen them all but obviously I missed this one) and feel really torn between it being her boyfriend or him being completely innocent. I think motivewise it is most likely him - the dumping of her purse close to where her supposed visitor works is a little hinky to me. Cases like these just show what a big and vast country the US is with lots of places to hide bodies :desert:
 
  • #36
It appears @findjackiemarkham is unfortunately no longer active on WS. After watching the Disappeared episode, I have a few questions concerning the scope of the investigation (other than the unbelievable fact that the home, while taped off as a crime scene, was never processed).

1. In the episode, it's mentioned that LE ask AC to bring in his trunk rug for forensic analysis. Was the rest of his vehicle ever searched or tested for the presence of human blood?

2. LE repeatedly state that they are skeptical of AC's story of the phone call and "Richard's" visit. However, there is no indication that JM's phone records were checked against his claim that they spoke the night of her disappearance. Was this done?

3. There is a conflicting fact in accounts of the night she disappeared. In some, it is stated that AC was supposed to meet JM for a date. When she called to say "Richard" had come over, AC insisted he come to her house, which she allowed upon a promise he could control his temper. However, other versions fail to mention a prearranged date between JM and AC, instead claiming that AC came over after becoming concerned by her phone call. I'm curious as to which is correct.
 
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  • #38
Nov 7 2022 rbbm.
''NASSAU COUNTY, Fla. — The Nassau County Sheriff's Office is asking for help identifying an individual that may be connected to a cold case disappearance.
NCSO says on December, 30, 2000, a man in black jacket and jeans went to the Lil Champ Convenience store on Lem Turner Road and the Sprint store in Callahan.
He did not make a purchase at either store, but instead spoke to both store clerks and stated the Nassau County Sheriff’s Office needs to search the woods behind Jackie Markham’s house, NCSO says.''


''Markham’s purse was eventually discovered along the side of Evergreen Road in Jacksonville.
Several individuals have been interviewed over the years, but no one has been charged in her disappearance and her body has never been found.
If you know anything about the disappearance of Jackie Markham in December 2000, or if you can identify the individual in the video above, please call the Nassau County Sheriff’s Office at 904-225-5174 or contact Detective Charity Rose at 904-548-4064.''
 
  • #39
Just saw the Disappeared episode covering the JM case. Bizarre & sad. It's too bad that they've made no progress re: finding out what happened to JM - especially given that this occurred almost 22 years ago. The house should have been investigated forensically right after the disappearance, and it doesn't appear that this was done.

I don't have any really good theories on what happened here. I know that her bf (that spoke several times in the episode) was someone that people were thinking may have had something to do with this. But, I'm not so sure. He is now deceased. How about any of the other men she may have been dating ATT?! Were they looked into?! No one else (other than AC) was really mentioned specifically.
 
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  • #40
This case really pissed me off. Sorry Jackie.

I think this is one of the rare ones where I feel it was obviously one person - Archie.

"The one who seemed to be around the most, was Archie Carroll"

Archie: makes a point of saying how often the garage door is open and how many times he'd been around there and the door was unlocked, setting the scene.

Archie: "I came to realise that she wasn't in any shape or form emotionally wanting or needing a relationship, she needed a good friendship, and that I gave her"

Daughter: "She didn't know how to tell Archie they were done"

Jackie's friend - Archie was very possessive, followed her around rooms, made inappropriate remarks about the bed, didn't want her to go to lunch with friends.

Jackie's daughter - he was intense, possessive, watched her every move, wanted to know where she was at. She couldn't go into a room without being followed by him. Whereas he said he just wanted to be friends. Big discrepancy. He also makes this weird point about how refreshing it was that she was independent and didn't need anyone, while sounding like he hated it. Trying to show he wasn't possessive. And how she didn't want to be alone and wanted him around, and he said well sweetie you can't have a casual relationship and have that - which sounds like a load of BS.

Archie 'checks up on her', checking town, finding out she went to a BBQ at Richard's that day instead. She lied to him (was probably scared of a bad reaction). This probably severely pissed him off.

You don't come over, half decorate a Christmas tree and leave it sitting there for two days (as per what he said, they had started doing it on the 12th and finishing on 14th). It seems more like it was interrupted.

Archie: I got a bizarre phone call from Jackie. Richard was over there, drunk, she was under duress and fear, said don't come over. It was disturbing.

We find out that Richard didn't even drink. Richard had a rock solid alibi (thankfully) with two neighbours with dinner at his house. So, Archie definitely lied. What reason was there to make this up? I sadly think it's quite clever, it creates a lot of doubt and wastes a lot of time at the start of the investigation. Otherwise it all would have fallen on him. Richard passes his test. Archie fails. Investigators 'wonder if Archie lied about the phone call'. WTF? They wonder? They can't tell if there was ever a call because it was using a house phone. Wut? Is this true? I don't understand how a house phone, which has an itemised bill, would not reveal a time of call and from who.

Archie: Leaves a msg saying "your momma has run off with Richard"

She had said to a friend that she liked Richard and wanted to see him again. Archie was obviously jealous.

Archie phoned friend and said Jackie was probably in the Bahamas with a BOYFRIEND (jealously), she did this all the time, she would take off and not let anybody know where she was going. But apparently she was a very dedicated worker who never took time off. Friends say it wasn't like her at all, no previous behaviour like this. So another lie. She didn't do this all of the time.

Archie waits at Jackie's house the entire night, even though he thinks Jackie has run off with Richard. Hmm, that makes sense. Who waits at someone's house the entire night?

Archie invites the neighbour to 'search the house' trying to get someone there before LE arrive.

Tyre tracks leading to woods.

On the photo of the garage there appears to be a massive bottle of bleach, did they process the garage? Because the rx were in her car front seat which makes me think it was v soon after she arrived there. Esp as purse and cell phone missing.
Why did they put so much stock in 'no signs of a struggle'/'relatively undisturbed appearance of her house'? Someone had the entire night to clear it up, if the Christmas tree had been knocked clear over it could have been fixed.

Last call at 6:31 to Archie. Probably telling him not to come over.

Did they fingerprint the jewellery to see who had taken it off or if there was any DNA on it if that's possible? They said all they had on Archie was poor performance on voice stress test but what about the lies about Richard? What about being there all night? Last phone call? What family and friends said? The lies?

Did they check the CCTV at the truck company to see if anyone borrowed a truck that night? I mean he is a veteran and seems clever, which is what worries me. Even the tyre tracks could be a false lead. Some guy went into a shop and spoke to two people who worked there and said that they need to search the woods behind the house a few days after, could this have been the roommate?

Were the woods ever searched? Did they process her car to see if it was possibly used? Because I would imagine the garage may have been used in some way. Did the house have a back door? etc. She got back at 7, when did he arrive? It's such a short window. He says he got the phone call at 6:31 and then set out shortly after. How long does it take for him to get there? He was already there.

Really sad, I'm sorry, RIP Jackie.
 
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