GUILTY FL - Jordan Davis, 17, shot to death, Satellite Beach, 23 Nov 2012 #10

  • #141
yay! ..... and tears for his MOM!
 
  • #142
Thank goodness for this verdict! Finally there is justice for Jordan Davis and his family! (plus the other victims in the vehicle)

Jordan Davis' mother and father lost so much and yet were so completely graceful throughout this entire thing. Their comments after the verdict were so appropriate, IMO. My thoughts are with them. They are a great example for other victims, IMO.

:seeya:
 
  • #143
and of course the verdict comes in when i am NAPPING. I am elated!
 
  • #144
I am pleased beyond words over the verdict. My heart goes out to Jordans family. People will forget in time but his family, especially his parents will never have a day without thoughts of love and longing for him. M.D deserves the hardest possible sentence. His words ask for it.
He is not superior to anyone tho' he thought he was. May he rot in prison. ..P S I didn't post much but I read a lot , first trial also.
 
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I think Dunn should have expected the verdict and just be grateful he's not getting the same sentence he gave Jordan.

Picture me clicking the Thanks button ad infinitum geevee.

:bow:


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  • #147
Had to leave for work at 1:30...discovered a dead battery; ton of work to be done today but thought to myself - "It'll take my mind of this case for a few hours." First chance I had to check.

Thoughts:
So Happy for Justice for this family
So relieved Dunn won't be on the streets triggering the next group of people who anger him (I moved last year to Brevard Co. where Dunn lived at the time of this shooting)
Sad that it won't bring this young man back, but will at least bring some measure of closure to the friends who tried to help him in his last moments.

This was an angry man who wanted vindication for his perceived slights. I'm relieved that he'll get NONE of that.
 
  • #148
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As a long-time Duval county resident, I must say I am so relieved that the verdict is in, and that the justice due in the case has been served. I've tried to withhold judgment throughout, even during the trials, because you never know if you have all the facts in a case until they've been presented to the jury. So I've bit my tongue throughout, because I could see both sides of this.

When this shooting happened, it chilled me to the bone. A shooting like this, in an area I grew up in. A safe place, or at least not the scary, dangerous one it became to me after Michael Dunn visited town. A random shooting at that location was so very hard to imagine. Ok, so a non-random, gang-related shooting was unlikely, but possible. Crap like this happened in the inner city in Jacksonville, places that had reputations even when I first moved to Jacksonville in the late 1960s, or they happened in south Florida. This didn’t happen in the suburbs of Jacksonville. This didn’t happen minutes from where I lived just 3 years earlier, and it didn’t happen to kids who went to the same high school that I had graduated from, and who cruised the same suburban shopping malls that I did at their age… Or did it?

Had times changed that much? Was I so removed from my old community in my childhood home that it had truly turned the corner to that extreme? Was I perhaps that naïve, and random shootings were frequently occurring just minutes from when I shopped at those same stores, and fueled at those same pumps so many times? I’d stopped for gum at that Gate like the boys, I’d stopped for wine at that Gate like RR, I had dinner at that adjacent restaurant like witnesses had, so many times. I’d always felt safe. Or at least not unsafe.

Was I that naïve? Had I missed so much deterioration in my own home community? Was my old stomping grounds now so scary after dark that dangerous thugs lurked on every street corner, brandishing guns and pretending to be in gangs? Were thugs, or wanna-be-thugs scaring aging computer programmers just after dark so badly that they risk getting killed? By the time of this incident, I was a computer programmer, like MD. Though I don’t own a gun, I believed in the Castle doctrine, I even believed in SYG, like MD. If my life was threatened by a gang of hoodlums, I believed I had a right to defend myself from imminent harm, and as a woman if I had a gun (which I don’t) and I felt someone was going to kill me, I wouldn’t chance aiming to wound, because I might miss and then I’d be killed. If I was fighting for my life, I’d defend myself to the death. I know that. But was this really a life-and-death decision here? Now? Truly in my own backyard? That was hard to believe, and even harder to stomach.

When I first heard the local news, I believed the risk of harm was from gang fights. No, then I’m told it was random. Wow. So was the threat from a gang-banger who thought they encountered a rival gang? No. Rival gang wanna-be? No. Then I learned the threat, the scariest part of that night was actually caused from a white anglo-Protestant. Not too different from me. I’m a woman, but I’m a technical geek, who believes I have a right to defend myself, and ok, I’m not the most personable person in all social circumstances. I could almost understand where this guy might be coming from.

Except that I couldn’t, I can’t, and I never will be able to. Where Dunn claims he saw fear, I see the smile of my next-door neighbor’s son. Thank God that young man’s graduated high school and enters college in a few months. He’s cruised with friends, played loud music, stopped for gum on his way to the mall to hit on high school kids of the opposite sex. Heck, who hasn’t? Has my neighbor’s son mouthed off to cranky older men who fussed at them? I’m sure he has. Did my friends? I know they did. There but for the grace of God…

Did I (and those friends) still become honest, good, tax-paying and contributing members of society? I believe I did, and like to think we all did. But if there had been a Michael Dunn at every street corner when we grew up, that wouldn’t be the case. If every adult today only sees threat when they see teenage boys, then heaven help us all. I am so relieved that a jury of my peers, and of MD’s peers, decided MD is guilty. Right or wrong, it restores confidence to me that the suburbs in town, the places I’ve grown up in, may still be comparatively safe, as long as zealots like MD are not returned to the streets.
 
  • #150
Standing ovation for JaxFlaGal!

Really well-said.
 
  • #151
Thank you, JaxFlaGirl. A very good post. I hope you are able to visit those familiar places without fear.
 
  • #152
Didn't get to watch the trial but I did watch Mr. Guy's closing argument (what a sweetheart). So glad the jury got it right. Prayers to all of Jordan's family and friends.

Justice Served!!
 
  • #153
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter 26s26 seconds ago
#JordanDavis parents always speak with such grace. Never with hate. #MichaelDunn #dunntrial

These parents will do great things and can be much more effective without people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ...the message is much more real from these parents and truly inspirational.
 
  • #155
Just watched the parents, amazing composure from them at this time. As Jordan's mother said "Justice for Jordan. Justice for Treyvon." His dad was so eloquent, and passionate and sensible. And then the prosecution. How can you not be impressed by that team? They brought justice for a 17 year old child gunned down before he could even leave school. Michael Dunn will die in prison. Justice has been served!

Yes one cannot help but be pleased by the thought of Michael Dunn having the "ultimate 🤬🤬🤬🤬 experience" for the rest of his life...he will after some time think of the four boys at the station as angels !!! Loud music will be the least of his problems....and I love how just like the first trial he looks bad at daddy as if to say...sorry to him.
 
  • #156
As a long-time Duval county resident, I must say I am so relieved that the verdict is in, and that the justice due in the case has been served. I've tried to withhold judgment throughout, even during the trials, because you never know if you have all the facts in a case until they've been presented to the jury. So I've bit my tongue throughout, because I could see both sides of this.

When this shooting happened, it chilled me to the bone. A shooting like this, in an area I grew up in. A safe place, or at least not the scary, dangerous one it became to me after Michael Dunn visited town. A random shooting at that location was so very hard to imagine. Ok, so a non-random, gang-related shooting was unlikely, but possible. Crap like this happened in the inner city in Jacksonville, places that had reputations even when I first moved to Jacksonville in the late 1960s, or they happened in south Florida. This didn’t happen in the suburbs of Jacksonville. This didn’t happen minutes from where I lived just 3 years earlier, and it didn’t happen to kids who went to the same high school that I had graduated from, and who cruised the same suburban shopping malls that I did at their age… Or did it?

Had times changed that much? Was I so removed from my old community in my childhood home that it had truly turned the corner to that extreme? Was I perhaps that naïve, and random shootings were frequently occurring just minutes from when I shopped at those same stores, and fueled at those same pumps so many times? I’d stopped for gum at that Gate like the boys, I’d stopped for wine at that Gate like RR, I had dinner at that adjacent restaurant like witnesses had, so many times. I’d always felt safe. Or at least not unsafe.

Was I that naïve? Had I missed so much deterioration in my own home community? Was my old stomping grounds now so scary after dark that dangerous thugs lurked on every street corner, brandishing guns and pretending to be in gangs? Were thugs, or wanna-be-thugs scaring aging computer programmers just after dark so badly that they risk getting killed? By the time of this incident, I was a computer programmer, like MD. Though I don’t own a gun, I believed in the Castle doctrine, I even believed in SYG, like MD. If my life was threatened by a gang of hoodlums, I believed I had a right to defend myself from imminent harm, and as a woman if I had a gun (which I don’t) and I felt someone was going to kill me, I wouldn’t chance aiming to wound, because I might miss and then I’d be killed. If I was fighting for my life, I’d defend myself to the death. I know that. But was this really a life-and-death decision here? Now? Truly in my own backyard? That was hard to believe, and even harder to stomach.

When I first heard the local news, I believed the risk of harm was from gang fights. No, then I’m told it was random. Wow. So was the threat from a gang-banger who thought they encountered a rival gang? No. Rival gang wanna-be? No. Then I learned the threat, the scariest part of that night was actually caused from a white anglo-Protestant. Not too different from me. I’m a woman, but I’m a technical geek, who believes I have a right to defend myself, and ok, I’m not the most personable person in all social circumstances. I could almost understand where this guy might be coming from.

Except that I couldn’t, I can’t, and I never will be able to. Where Dunn claims he saw fear, I see the smile of my next-door neighbor’s son. Thank God that young man’s graduated high school and enters college in a few months. He’s cruised with friends, played loud music, stopped for gum on his way to the mall to hit on high school kids of the opposite sex. Heck, who hasn’t? Has my neighbor’s son mouthed off to cranky older men who fussed at them? I’m sure he has. Did my friends? I know they did. There but for the grace of God…

Did I (and those friends) still become honest, good, tax-paying and contributing members of society? I believe I did, and like to think we all did. But if there had been a Michael Dunn at every street corner when we grew up, that wouldn’t be the case. If every adult today only sees threat when they see teenage boys, then heaven help us all. I am so relieved that a jury of my peers, and of MD’s peers, decided MD is guilty. Right or wrong, it restores confidence to me that the suburbs in town, the places I’ve grown up in, may still be comparatively safe, as long as zealots like MD are not returned to the streets.

Wow...that is a very introspective and well thought out post and shows me just how important this verdict is for everyone...I am glad there were people like you on the jury. Thanks.
 
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  • #158
:woohoo:
 
  • #159
I am chuckling at the thought of Michael Dunn kissing goodbye forever to his elitist airplane-flying community in Paradise Beach.

Michael: You will forever live the 🤬🤬🤬🤬-life in prison, you soft, superior, self-centered piece of carp.
 
  • #160
Oh darn, i missed this trial. But i'm happy he was found guilty. It was clear the first time, I think. He did not act the least bit like a person who was afraid for his life, he acted like a guilty person.
 

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