Found Deceased FL - Kristina French, 53, Neptune Beach, 21 Nov 2017 *Arrest*

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  • #761
Tweets posts by MSM sources and verified MSM reporters are almost always OK!

This is a Twitter link, is it ok?
[video=twitter;936002145220022273]https://twitter.com/RussellANjax/status/936002145220022273[/video]

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  • #762
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/l...une-beach-fugitive-shot-and-stabbed/655677477
Updated: Nov 29, 2017 - 7:53 PM
[...]
Action News Jax obtained court filings from 2004 through June 2016. They show Mott's parents were embroiled in a lengthy custody battle.

In 2014, Mott told the Department of Children and Families that his father spanked him and left "heavy red marks on his body" and made him long distances, to the point he "threw up."

DCF said it would continue the investigation, and no further law enforcement action was requested.
[...]
 
  • #763
On one of the news reports on I believe Action News 4, there are a set of windows on the upper floor boarded over with plywood. Could this related to the crime scene or was this existing prior to the investigation?
 
  • #764
On one of the news reports on I believe Action News 4, there are a set of windows on the upper floor boarded over with plywood. Could this related to the crime scene or was this existing prior to the investigation?

I saw that on News4Jax too and wondered. I haven't seen any mention of broken windows or anything like that. Maybe they boarded windows before the hurricane and just haven't taken them off of the top floor.
 
  • #765
I think parental alienation, IMO is the main cause of all of this. A teen that age needs his mother to talk to which I found that with my 3 sons and the girls as my daughter did usually go to the father. This whole family dynamics he had to put up with plus a new school I believe threw him off the edge.

But why did Logan kill his grandmother and not his father or mother?
 
  • #766
But why did Logan kill his grandmother and not his father or mother?
Because neither were available and
Kristina was? That is, if something set him off. Perhaps the phone call with
his Mother? Just speculation on my part.

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  • #767
I have wondered if Kristina enabled her son, if he was in fact abusive. If Logan felt like she should be helping him or stepping in and she instead supported her son or looked the other way to avoid conflict. I don’t really mean this in a negative manner about Kristina, but some mothers will yield to their adult sons no matter what. I think this post isn’t coming off how I want it to :(.
 
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I have wondered if Kristina enabled her son, if he was in fact abusive. If Logan felt like she should be helping him or stepping in and she instead supported her son or looked the other way to avoid conflict. I don’t really mean this in a negative manner about Kristina, but some mothers will yield to their adult sons no matter what. I think this post isn’t coming off how I want it to :(.
I wonder if the bet he lost with dad where he cut his hair triggered things that were boiling underneath and everything just exploded at once with all things pent up for so long.

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If he fights extradition and gets to stay in NY for however long, what State/County, etc. pays the costs of housing him?
 
  • #771
I have wondered if Kristina enabled her son, if he was in fact abusive. If Logan felt like she should be helping him or stepping in and she instead supported her son or looked the other way to avoid conflict. I don’t really mean this in a negative manner about Kristina, but some mothers will yield to their adult sons no matter what. I think this post isn’t coming off how I want it to :(.
Your post makes perfect sense to me. Could be... but hard to tell what all the dynamics might be at this point.
 
  • #772
I have wondered if KF was an ally to LM and dear old Dad was tired of her interference? She moved from Michigan to be closer to family according to one account, was that move to help her son ‘chill out’ with all the court wrangling and discord between LM’s parents? MOO, there is something missing to the story which we may never know.
 
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MOO if LM remains in NY that NY will bill FL for the detention charges.
 
  • #775
From what I've observed over the years from children whose parents are constantly in custody battles, the majority come away feeling like neither of the parents care about them. A lot of them also learned to manipulate their parents to get their way, even if they had to be dishonest to do it. I'm not saying all are like that but children learn what they live.

I find this to be true as well. the one step child mom was able to successfully alienate from dad recently stole almost 5k from her bf. was getting uber eats at school, bought clothes from Hollister, a $500 cannon camera and a $1400 apple laptop before they caught him. he had heard the bf yelling at his mom accusing her of stealing it for a week. then she really had the nerve to tell dad "idk where he would learn this sneaky behavior!" he had to bite his tongue on that... lol. golden child wasn't so golden I guess? dad suggested more therapy and she refused.
 
  • #776
im thinking the "property checks" were welfare checks by mom.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/neptu...gn=Breaking News Alert&utm_term=wjxt_breaking


Just some notes I took... Feel free to make corrections.
2 of the 3 guns were his dad's guns from work.
He was found with one recently fired gun, 2 other guns and a bloody knife.

3 previous police calls:

*12/1/14 - to assist another agency
12/22/14 & 2/26/16 - property checks (to check on Logan Mott, a 'source says')
I'd so love to know more about these checks. Who called, what was the complaint, what was the result of the visit? Since he's a minor, we likely won't see these reports, right?

* To assist DCF. Mom filed report, LE assisted DCF, no further action.
There was also another DCF complaint, filed by someone at school, didn't get date, sorry

His lawyer says there are 'dozens' of alternative theories.
I, personally can't come up with dozens, but maybe that's why I am not a defense lawyer.
At this point, I am struggling to come up with even a few that I can't poke my own holes in. Sigh.


And now I understand why they might fight extradition.
"It gives the defense more time to think about how they want to handle the case," Flynn said after Wednesday morning's hearing. "It will obviously delay the proceedings in Florida because, if the young man is returned to Florida within 10 days, they'll arraign him down there, put him before the grand jury down there and the case will be moving forward in Florida. If you keep him up here for 60 days, that will delay the trial in Florida by two months."
 
  • #777
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5132893/Ex-nanny-Logan-Mott-says-kept-stash-knives.html

"The former nanny of the ninth-grader charged with murdering his grandmother claims she caught him walking around at night with a knife like a scene out of horror movie 'Halloween.'

Debbie Gallardo, 55, looked after Logan Mott, 15, for four months in 2012 while his father was at work and says she locked her bedroom door because she feared for her safety."......



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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5132893/Ex-nanny-Logan-Mott-says-kept-stash-knives.html

"The former nanny of the ninth-grader charged with murdering his grandmother claims she caught him walking around at night with a knife like a scene out of horror movie 'Halloween.'

Debbie Gallardo, 55, looked after Logan Mott, 15, for four months in 2012 while his father was at work and says she locked her bedroom door because she feared for her safety."......



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Good gosh. Certainly she told the family about this?! Did they know he had a stash of knives under his bed?
Maybe that's why LE went back to the house and searched again.

IMO, both parents had to know what was going on with him. I think a lot more will come to light once everything is uncovered.

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  • #779
Good gosh. Certainly she told the family about this?! Did they know he had a stash of knives under his bed?
Maybe that's why LE went back to the house and searched again.

IMO, both parents had to know what was going on with him. I think a lot more will come to light once everything is uncovered.

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If you read the whole article it goes on to say she told dad, he knew about it and said he had his own knives that were his that he kept in a box under the bed. It sounds like there were things they knew about, but that is all just stuff I have read and nothing I can post here.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5132893/Ex-nanny-Logan-Mott-says-kept-stash-knives.html

"The former nanny of the ninth-grader charged with murdering his grandmother claims she caught him walking around at night with a knife like a scene out of horror movie 'Halloween.'

Debbie Gallardo, 55, looked after Logan Mott, 15, for four months in 2012 while his father was at work and says she locked her bedroom door because she feared for her safety."......



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Damn! That's crazy!

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