Found Deceased FL - Kristina French, 53, Neptune Beach, 21 Nov 2017 *Arrest*

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What happens when a diabetic is low on insulin? I understand they can be sick, but deranged, confused??

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Violence is pretty rare, but irritability is a pretty common symptom. My father, now about 70, was diagnosed Type 1 (insulin dependent) in his 20s. So, I’ll speak from my experiences with him.

When his blood sugar is low, he can get quite irritated, argumentative and make poor decisions (like driving, etc). He can be too out of it to realize his sugars are low, so he’s not aware enough to eat anything or drink juice or whatever to bring it back up. And sometimes will argue and refuse to do it. That’s usually when an ambulance/paramedics must be called so he can be properly treated before he goes into shock.

I describe it as being like dealing with someone who’s drunk. And not always a “good” drunk. Sometimes even like a blackout drunk, because he doesn’t always remember things that happen when his blood glucose gets that low.

He can be an a**, but he’s never become violent. I would imagine it would be very rare, considering the body starts shutting down when levels get too low.

But apparently, it’s not unheard of.

(Eta: Forum link discusses mostly type 2 since it’s so common - which is not the same at type 1, obviously!!! - but it gives good insight into behavior when someone has low blood sugar. Why they sweat, shake, etc.)

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/hypo-and-aggression.60578/
 
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Wow I can’t believe they just now found the body?
 
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Wow I can’t believe they just now found the body?

I can't imagine they just did either. Waiting patiently for the presser.
 
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Wow I can’t believe they just now found the body?

Two guesses on who it may be. So, so sad! If there were two bodies (and who knows, maybe LE has been looking for 2nd body), it might be harder to figure out.
 
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She acknowledged that Logan has had issues adjusting to his high school, but that they were “normal teenage moments.”
“He’s had issues. He’s had some problems over the last couple of years. It’s just been a tough time for him, transitioning from one school now to high school, and he’s in the early college program, and that’s really intense,” Campbell-Mott said.

“There just wasn’t any indication that there was anything wrong, nothing. It was just a normal conversation,” Campbell-Mott said. “They’ve been asking me what kind of a mood Logan was in on Sunday night when I was talking to him. We are both Native American, and we talked about making moccasins when he was here at Christmas and talked about Spring Break.”

She said Mott had been asking about possibly moving to Missouri to live with her. Campbell-Mott has three children under the age of 5 in Missouri.
https://www.news4jax.com/news/mothe...-beach-15-year-old-grandmother-remain-missing
 
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We'll find more out at the news conference. I wonder if they located earlier but kept it quiet while they focused on evidence preservation. There were heavy rains on Thursday in the area, and moderate rains Tuesday and Sunday (bottom of this link is rainfall metrics from Mayport weather station - that's a bit north of Neptune Beach (but will be more accurate locally than the official reports from NWS at the Jax airport): https://www.wunderground.com/histor...tory.html?&reqdb.zip=&reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo=
 
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I have been a nurse for 10 years and only recently learned this.

Whether an insulin purchase requires a prescription in Florida does depend on the type of insulin. My father has type 2 diabetes. He used to use a 2x/day injection (traditional vial and needles), which did not require a prescription. Still had to be picked up at the pharmacy due to the refrigeration requirements. He now uses an insulin that's 24-hour pen based. That requires prescription for both the insulin and the pen needles. I don't know what insulin options and prescription options exist for an insulin pump.
 
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https://www.news4jax.com/news/mothe...-beach-15-year-old-grandmother-remain-missing

"Logan's glasses were also left in the home, and a*locksmith was also called to open a locked car that has been in the driveway since the two disappeared.

Despite their wallets being gone, Campbell-Mott said there has been no activity on either's bank or credit cards."

Locked car in the driveway?*



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Body found in backyard of missing 15 year old and grandmother (Seagate). Just now.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/mothe...-beach-15-year-old-grandmother-remain-missing

Ugh. I just got online and saw the tweets.
[video=twitter;934174446604177408]https://twitter.com/WJXT_CorleyPeel/status/934174446604177408[/video]
Corley Peel
@WJXT_CorleyPeel
BREAKING: Logan Mott's mother confirms the body of his grandmother, Kristina French has been found. @wjxt4 https://www.news4jax.com/news/mothe...-beach-15-year-old-grandmother-remain-missing …

I hate these kind of endings.
 
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Wow, so sad. Kristina seemed like a great lady.
 
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I’m confused about the locked car. Do they not know whose car it is?
 
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Thanks. I just watched a short video about how an insulin pump works.
So...he doesn't have his pump with him. Is it realistic that he would be able to somehow deliver the insulin to himself without that, if he were able to buy some somewhere?

A few other questions for those that know:
Under what circumstances would he not have had his pump attached?
Do you take the pump off during the night?

Yes, all he would have needed is the insulin vial and needles. He most likely would have had additional insulin vials already, because the vial in the pump gets changed every few days (depends on how much is used).

The pump delivers a set amount of insulin constantly, and then when the person eats, they tell the pump to give them a "bolus", an extra dose, based on approximating how many carbs they're eating or based on their doctor's instructions.

The pump remains on the person 24/7 because the idea is to regulate blood sugars. Typically normal blood sugars run around 65-110. Most people are able to regulate their own to stay within that frame. So the idea of the pump is to regulate the person's blood sugars by constant low dosing so they don't experience huge highs and lows.

Type 1 diabetics are more likely to experience the dramatic swings than Type 2s, since the Type 1 essentially produces no insulin on their own.

It sounds like there are no known reasons why Logan's pump would have been taken off.
 
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