Found Deceased FL - Kristina French, 53, Neptune Beach, 21 Nov 2017 *Arrest*

[Inthedetails]

http://jacksonville.com/news/public...emains-found-friday-confirmed-kristina-french

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From the link, bbm

"As 15-year-old Logan Mott remains in an upstate New York jail, Jacksonville police Monday announced that the medical examiner had positively identified the remains found in the backyard of his Neptune Beach home as Kristina French, 43, Mott’s grandmother."

 

[Deleted member 50844]

https://www.news4jax.com/news/l-1

Positive ID. Rest in peace Kristina.
Still no hint at cause of death.
Still no word if the guns were found with Logan, or found at all.

"Logan adamantly denies being involved in her death," Saraceno said. "He loved his grandmother very much, and he was extremely upset when he found out what happened to her. We would ask the public to not jump to any conclusion or rush to judgment until a thorough investigation is completed."

Extremely upset when he found out what happened to her? Is this implying he is saying he wasn't even there when she was killed? This case gets weirder as we go.

 

[Inthedetails]

https://www.news4jax.com/news/l-1

Positive ID. Rest in peace Kristina.
Still no hint at cause of death.
Still no word if the guns were found with Logan, or found at all.

"Logan adamantly denies being involved in her death," Saraceno said. "He loved his grandmother very much, and he was extremely upset when he found out what happened to her. We would ask the public to not jump to any conclusion or rush to judgment until a thorough investigation is completed."

Extremely upset when he found out what happened to her? Is this implying he is saying he wasn't even there when she was killed? This case gets weirder as we go.

My guess is he was upset because it can be upsetting to hear bad news spoken aloud. Up until that point, the words were not spoken for him to hear. To hear the words for the first time can be shocking, even when you already know the truth.

I think he knew full well what happened, but facing it is overwhelming and upsetting. This might prove to be in his favor at some point....he's not a cold-hearted killer with no remorse.

That's my take on it anyway.


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[dyannaON]

So thinking outside of the box. Did Logan have any unsavoury friends that may have killed Kristina? I'm doubtful on this but just thinking.... Did his friends want the weapons? Did grandma come home during the "burglary" Logan panicked? Again doubtful imo. I think this will be about school, drugs and family issues imo. (Zero proof)


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[katydid23]

So thinking outside of the box. Did Logan have any unsavoury friends that may have killed Kristina? I'm doubtful on this but just thinking.... Did his friends want the weapons? Did grandma come home during the "burglary" Logan panicked? Again doubtful imo. I think this will be about school, drugs and family issues imo. (Zero proof)


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I think those texts, sent on Tuesday, mess up any possible scenario, of him being an innocent bystander, running out of fear and panic.

If he stumbled upon a crime unfolding, and ran in fear, he would not have sent that text to a classmate about homework, or to his Dad, from grandma's cell. JMO

 

[keeleydoll]

Thank you!!!

So... can a person recover from hypoglycemia without outside intervention?

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I’ve been reactive hypoglycemic for most of my life and recently took some stupid “nutritional supplement” that a friend gave me. They didn’t tell me it was a “blood glucose regulator” and after I drank it I knew what was wrong and tested my blood glucose and it was 46. If I hadn’t been dealing with it for 25+ years I may not have known what was happening and ended up unconscious before anyone else knew what was going on. There have been a couple of times when it was low and it was basically like a drunken blackout, functioning and talking, etc. but with no memory of it. I do get hangry/grumpy when my BG is low but have never been violent.

That said, if he’s on an insulin pump, his sugars are very closely regulated and it’s unlikely that he would have a drastic spike or drop. Off to research insulin pumps again.


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[dyannaON]

Yes I forgot about the texts.


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[keeleydoll]

Does the pump know my sugar level and automatically deliver the right amount of insulin?

No! At this time, insulin pumps cannot measure glucose levels and cannot automatically deliver the right amount of insulin.


How much time and effort commitment does pump therapy require?

Starting pump therapy requires commitment. It is not unusual to check blood sugars 8-12 times per day in the beginning of pump therapy to assess basal and bolus insulin needs. This often means lots of interruptions during the workday and during family time. It also means disturbing your sleep in order to take blood sugar readings in the middle of the night. Think about your schedule and commitments. Talk to your family for support. Plan ahead.

What knowledge and skills should I have?

A thorough understanding of diabetes self-management skills:
You should understand insulin action, carbohydrate counting and how to treat high and low blood sugars.
Manual dexterity:
Manual dexterity is necessary to load or fill an insulin cartridge and depress buttons on the pump for technical functions. Severe limitations from hand arthritis or neuropathy may hinder this.

What’s so great about the pump?

The list is an important one, in large part because pumps provide more precise and tailored insulin delivery. As a result, they offer greater lifestyle flexibility. Tailored insulin delivery can help:

The “dawn phenomenon” – by matching your early-morning increase in insulin resistance, so you avoid high blood sugar.
Post-meal glucose rise from slowly digested foods or gastroparesis (Combination and extended meal boluses extend insulin delivery).
Shift workers by adjusting the basal rates to your varying work schedule
Frequent travelers by adjusting the basal and bolus rate to your travel schedule and time zone changes
Prevent low blood sugars during physical activity and exercise by use of temporary basal insulin rate settings
Extremely insulin sensitive people by delivering small doses of insulin
What’s not so great about the pump?

There are downsides to any therapy, and the insulin pump is no exception.

Wearing it can be unsettling
Most of the time, you’ll be wearing your pump on your body, clipped to your waistband or in your pocket. Fortunately, many accessories are available to make wearing the pump discreet and convenient.

https://dtc.ucsf.edu/types-of-diabe...type-1-insulin-pump-therapy/pump-faqs/#amount


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[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Thank you ALL for the diabetes/insulin tutorial!

The pump sounds like it takes a lot of tending. I can easily see a 15yo kid slacking off.

I will need to ponder... [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

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[MzOpinion8d]

I’ve been reactive hypoglycemic for most of my life and recently took some stupid “nutritional supplement” that a friend gave me. They didn’t tell me it was a “blood glucose regulator” and after I drank it I knew what was wrong and tested my blood glucose and it was 46. If I hadn’t been dealing with it for 25+ years I may not have known what was happening and ended up unconscious before anyone else knew what was going on. There have been a couple of times when it was low and it was basically like a drunken blackout, functioning and talking, etc. but with no memory of it. I do get hangry/grumpy when my BG is low but have never been violent.

That said, if he’s on an insulin pump, his sugars are very closely regulated and it’s unlikely that he would have a drastic spike or drop. Off to research insulin pumps again.


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What ingredient was in the drink that caused your blood sugar to drop?

 

[keeleydoll]

What ingredient was in the drink that caused your blood sugar to drop?

After discussing it with my general practitioner we learned to was the combination of excessive chromium, Chlorogenic acid and Alpha-lipoic acid.


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[MzOpinion8d]

After discussing it with my general practitioner we learned to was the combination of excessive chromium, Chlorogenic acid and Alpha-lipoic acid.


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Thanks for the info! I'm a nurse and it's always good to know weird things like this that can cause glucose levels to drop.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Don't really have an opinion on the blood sugar thing, but just to clarify, no COD has been released, we don't know yet if she was shot.

But a question... if a person (to use crude layman's terms) goes nuts due to hypoxia, what would bring him back to reality? Would he be able to help himself at all in that state? Or would it just get worse without intervention?

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Excellent point, without intervention coma would ensue in hyper/hypo glucose or hypoxia. Someone does not bounce back without a correction of the problem. In time I suppose glucose levels would rise if the diabetic did not slip into a critical state after too much insulin. Depends on the length of time the insulin acted. And the only markers if not continual glucose monitoring is an A1C which is just the average of a 3 month period of blood glucose. Wouldn't note the highs and lows.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

The car had always been missing. Yes, foul play and criminal activity which may or may not include blood. IMO the spokesperson for the Sheriff’s Office was very nervous providing his report and answering the follow up questions. IMO, the press conference was held on Friday and at no time prior was there any indication/announcement the scene was being treated as a domestic scene. A 15 year old misses two days of school, a GMA misses two days of work, neither are answering their phones and Dad comes home via Uber to an open door, his home ransacked and all the while a death has occurred, a body buried and a teen is in process of driving two mane three days across country and no one notices until Dad unpacks his luggage and sees his gun safe has been “broken into” and that was reported by the Mom. LE is not required to release any details on any investigation, however a 15 year old is missing. Something is amiss and the scene remains secure into its sixth day.

It was speculated by the media on Thursday morning. First Coast News was questioning why the FBI was not involved and reported that usually if it's a domestic situation, they would not be called. Also LE kept info close to the vest until Friday or Saturday (can't remember) when the news announced that there were signs of foul play inside Logan's home. So we really didn't have a lot of info initially and I suspect currently too. Unfortunately, JSO has had 122 homicides so far this year and are getting pretty proficient at investigating, IMO.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

As someone who suffers from non-diabetic hypoglycemia (due to a genetic condition), the anger/rage can definitely happen at the same time as the other symptoms - and sometimes you can be completely unaware that your blood sugar has dropped. I've had episodes where my mood has changed and I've had no idea I'm in the danger zone because I don't have the shaking or dizziness or general gross feeling all the time.

I don't know if LM wore a CGM, but that is something that you can get prescribed to you especially if you have hypoglycemia unawareness. If he had a pump, I feel like he probably did have one, just because nowadays that's almost standard with new pumps to be connected with one. Does it say at all when LM was diagnosed? I feel that may have some kind of an impact as well. I know it took me 2-3 years to really get a handle on what lows feel like in my body because they can come on differently depending on the circumstances.

Well said. I too have had those issues but with diabetes. I have cared for Type I juvenile diabetics. One little guy would go 'out' so fast that he needed constant care. Things have certainly improved with today's technology, but when he became agitated and combative, he was not aware enough to treat himself. Some of the adults I've worked with have figured things out. I certainly have and I don't even like myself when I become hypoglycemic. Everything depends on how brittle their condition is.
On the other hand, I am aware of how people refer to being in a drunken state with ketoacidosis (high sugar). It does not feel that way to me at all. It's very different although that's the way some may appear to others.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Thanks for the info! I'm a nurse and it's always good to know weird things like this that can cause glucose levels to drop.

Licorice can do it too. Happened to a family member with no history, non diabetic and never had an issue since. He became shaky, pale, clammy and said "I feel faint". Always have my glucometer with me and he was 26!!! The only thing we can trace it back to is an idiopathic event which may have been precipitated by a bag of licorice. Weird!

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Also websleuths has a verified listing of members in lots of different fields or are insiders in specific cases. Many of you may not know and may want to add your expertise to discussions.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...n-Process-for-Professional-or-Insider-Posters

 

[Blue5591]

Logan's extradition hearing is any minute now in NY.

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[strawberry]

Low blood sugar makes me think of this: https://youtu.be/ybbS5_qlkaQ


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[always reading]

Yes I forgot about the texts.


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What was the text from grandma's phone? I must've missed that.

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