Found Deceased FL - Lane Graves, 2, Walt Disney World, 14 June 2016 #1

[LaborDayRN]

I have no idea. I remember my father-in-law telling the story of catching the gator and keeping it, but he didn't say what became of the gator. My FIL died about 2 years ago, so I can't ask him. He was a neighbor and friend of the man who founded the Miami Serpentarium, so maybe the gator went there.

Ah, that sounds like it would have been a great idea!

 

[LaborDayRN]

How to send cards to the Graves family

http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/160576769-story

This is wonderful Pink! Thank you for the link. Sadly, in this day and age I hope someone is reading the cards first before giving them to the family. I wish I didn't even have to think that. Some people are just so cruel.

 

[mrsu]

Signs posted at neighboring resort

http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/06/15/disney-alligator-attack-signs-warning-hyatt/

 

[perfectingpink]

This is wonderful Pink! Thank you for the link. Sadly, in this day and age I hope someone is reading the cards first before giving them to the family. I wish I didn't even have to think that. Some people are just so cruel.

That was my first thought, also.

 

[AmyPond]

http://www.ketv.com/news/elkhorn-re...m=facebook&utm_source=trueAnthem:+New+Content

Residents in Elkhorn are putting up ribbons for Lane.

If I put myself in their shoes, I can't decide if seeing these when I come home would make me feel comforted or just make me sad. I think their friends organized it though so hopefully that means the Graves' will find comfort in it.

 

[Sonya610]

And because of this terrible tragedy I HAVE looked up surviving a gator attack. Suggestions were to poke their eyes and punch their heads for anyone else interested. [emoji52]

I think a lot of us non-floridians have learned a thing or two about gators.

Also I think many would assume gators kill via trauma, like a shark attack. After reading they drown their prey that would change how one would try to rescue a victim. Instead of struggling in the water to get the gator to release, the goal should be to keep the victim from being dragged under/away, and like Sonjay said drag the gator out of the water if at all possible.

If people are worried about bites and jaws instead of preventing the gator from disappearing with the victim they could lose both in a split second.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I was waiting for some stories of near misses to come out. I'm sure there have been a number of them over the years.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/terrified-brit-family-chased-alligator-8197003

Terrified Brit family 'chased by alligator' at same Disney resort weeks before beast took toddler

 

[JerseyGirl]

here's a picture I found of the campfires on the beach, notice it's dusk and kids are playing at the water's edge.

https://sheila0gh.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/imgp9762.jpg
http://kellysluckyyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/AAO-Maya-on-the-Beach-at-GF.jpg
http://cdn.wdwmagic.com/imgstore/el...encoder=freeimage;quality=60;progressive=true
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ccb8tvTA1rqeem0o1_1280.jpg
http://www.passporter.com/photos/da...olynesianResort_4thOfJulyFireworksOnBeach.jpg
http://land.allears.net/blogs/kristin-ford/fourth-of-july-crowds-disney-world-polynesian.jpg

Some of the kids have sand buckets which I'm sure they are getting water with from the lake.

 

[Sonya610]

See below:

An insider told The Wrap Wednesday that several employees of Disney’s Polynesian Resort Village became concerned about guests feeding alligators over the past 14 months.

According to the individual, guests who stay at the most expensive rooms, called the Bora Bora Bungalows, have access to the wildlife at the Seven Seas Lagoon and commonly feed the alligators that swim in the massive body of water.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...-before-attack-reports-say.html?intcmp=hplnws

 

[Ray_of_hope]

here's a picture i found of the campfires on the beach, notice it's dusk and kids are playing at the water's edge.

https://sheila0gh.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/imgp9762.jpg
http://kellysluckyyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/aao-maya-on-the-beach-at-gf.jpg
http://cdn.wdwmagic.com/imgstore/el...encoder=freeimage;quality=60;progressive=true
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ccb8tvta1rqeem0o1_1280.jpg
http://www.passporter.com/photos/da...olynesianresort_4thofjulyfireworksonbeach.jpg
http://land.allears.net/blogs/kristin-ford/fourth-of-july-crowds-disney-world-polynesian.jpg

some of the kids have sand buckets which i'm sure they are getting water with from the lake.

wow!!!

 

[JerseyGirl]

See below:

Wow, those bungalows are gorgeous!

[video=youtube;WymXnn4jbzM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WymXnn4jbzM[/video]

Edit to add: I don't see any ALLIGATOR signs, neither a WARNING, NO SWIMMING nor a DO NOT FEED IT IS AGAINST THE LAW sign.

Peek Inside Disney’s $2K/Night Polynesian Bungalow, The Ultimate Walt Disney World Room With A View
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-parfitt/peek-inside-disneys-2knig_b_7058918.html

 

[JerseyGirl]

Marriott's Grande Vista in Orlando has a groomed beach on the water. They also have evening activities like campfires and gatherings. The beach there is protected from the water by a white fence which you can see in these photos.

 

[judithannegg]

Marriott's Grande Vista in Orlando has a groomed beach on the water. They also have evening activities like campfires and gatherings. The beach there is protected from the water by a white fence which you can see in these photo.

I do agree from my own visits there. Been there two times and I know the beach was manmade by hotel. I didn't get any feeling that the "lagoon" was connected by ocean and alligators, but it was such a tranquil place, I guess we didn't think of that. Have four children. We did the same and just went in water to our knees or so to cool off. I mean really, WDW creates a beach and they supposedly think people are not going into the water? No swimming sign is a lot different than "do not go into the water." We took the no swimming sign as no lifeguards, so you are on your own. I mean, really, create a beach in hot and humid Orlando and of course we all, yep everyone on the beach, dips into the water to cool off

 

[JerseyGirl]

I was waiting for some stories of near misses to come out. I'm sure there have been a number of them over the years.

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another:

[video=youtube;F1ZqrnJkQuQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ZqrnJkQuQ[/video]
Splash Mountain Alligator
While on vacation in Disney World, I was watching people ride down on splash mountain and right at the very end of the hill was an alligator...

see more here: http://nypost.com/2016/06/16/disney-world-is-crawling-with-alliggators-see-for-yourself/

 

[AmyPond]

I do agree from my own visits there. Been there two times and I know the beach was manmade by hotel. I didn't get any feeling that the "lagoon" was connected by ocean and alligators, but it was such a tranquil place, I guess we didn't think of that. Have four children. We did the same and just went in water to our knees or so to cool off. I mean really, WDW creates a beach and they supposedly think people are not going into the water? No swimming sign is a lot different than "do not go into the water." We took the no swimming sign as no lifeguards, so you are on your own. I mean, really, create a beach in hot and humid Orlando and of course we all, yep everyone on the beach, dips into the water to cool off

I agree.

"Do not go in water" would be more helpful than "no swimming."

 

[Jax49]

I agree.

"Do not go in water" would be more helpful than "no swimming."

IMHO, considering how fast gators are, it needs to be: Do not go NEAR the water.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Today Show video: Disney to add alligator warning signs

http://my.xfinity.com/video/disney-...ast/Today_in_Video?cid=cover_sf_TIV_alligator

 

[SeaEclipse]

here's a picture I found of the campfires on the beach, notice it's dusk and kids are playing at the water's edge.

https://sheila0gh.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/imgp9762.jpg
http://kellysluckyyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/AAO-Maya-on-the-Beach-at-GF.jpg
http://cdn.wdwmagic.com/imgstore/el...encoder=freeimage;quality=60;progressive=true
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ccb8tvTA1rqeem0o1_1280.jpg
http://www.passporter.com/photos/da...olynesianResort_4thOfJulyFireworksOnBeach.jpg
http://land.allears.net/blogs/kristin-ford/fourth-of-july-crowds-disney-world-polynesian.jpg

Some of the kids have sand buckets which I'm sure they are getting water with from the lake.

Thanks for finding these! This is what I was trying to explain earlier in the thread: kids wade at the edge of this water *all the time.* They aren't swimming per se, but the area is set up like a beach, guests at the hotel are given buckets at check in and many/most kids on the beach are wearing swimwear (especially because they run back and forth to the pool). The idea that these parents were doing/allowing anything out of the norm is just wrong from my personal experience at the same resort.

 

[atthelake]

IMHO, considering how fast gators are, it needs to be: Do not go NEAR the water.

This tragedy brings to mind the laws in Florida if someone owns a pool. If a neighborhood kid comes in and drowned amd if pool was not protected by a fence enclosure they can be sued.. and have been successfully ....as it is called an " attractive nuisance" iirc

Iirc Homeowners are required by law to have swimming pools protected by fences. I'm not sure of the exact height and whether they must be locked but I think they have to be childproof.

Fpr those in Florida you can chime in if my recollection is correct above.

Just came to mind as a comparison for folks who don't live in Florida..not sure if it has any significance at all to this.

 

[sonjay]

See below:

According to the individual, guests who stay at the most expensive rooms, called the Bora Bora Bungalows, have access to the wildlife at the Seven Seas Lagoon and commonly feed the alligators that swim in the massive body of water.

THAT is bad. If Disney knows (or should have known) that people are feeding the gators there, then yeah, they're responsible. Everyone in Florida knows that an alligator fed by humans is a dangerous alligator.