FL FL - Largo, WhtMale 18-50,UP6005, skull on residential nightstand, found in duffle bag before 1984 at bus stop in Clearwater, Jul’84

[lightofmine99]

Largo John Doe (1984)
a.k.a "Nightstand John Doe 1984”
UP6005 (NU)

Reconstruction of John Doe, c.2012.​

Circumstances:
Skull recovered by Largo Police in 1984 at a residence where it was on a nightstand. Skull reportedly found in a duffle bag several years prior to 1984 at a bus stop at Princess and Ft. Harrison in Clearwater. (per NamUs).

A skull was recovered by Largo Police July 1, 1984 at an apartment at 706 16th Avenue NW. Police were called out to a domestic dispute and located a skull on a nightstand. The female resident reported finding the skull six or seven years prior in a duffel bag at a bus stop on North Fort Harrison in Clearwater. (per Doe Network).

Spoiler: CASE INFORMATION

Case Numbers:

• NamUs: UP6005
• Doe Network: 3627UMFL
• ME/C: ML-1994-155
• NCMEC: N/A

Overview:

• Location: Largo, Florida. (Pinellas Co.)
  • Before 1984 - Clearwater, Florida.(Pinellas Co).
• Date Body Found: July 1, 1984.
• NamUs Created: October 8, 2009.
• Tribal Land: N/A
• PMI: N/A
• State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only.
• Cause of Death: UNKNOWN

Physical:

• Sex: Male
• Race/Ethnicity: White/Caucasian
• Age: Adult, 18-50.
• Height: CANNOT ESTIMATE
• Weight: CANNOT ESTIMATE
• Hair: UNKNOWN
• Eye: UNKNOWN

Identifiers:

• Dentals: UNKNOWN
• DNA: UNKNOWN
• Prints: UNKNOWN
• Marks / Features: N/A

Personal Effects:

• Clothing: NONE
• Jewelry: NONE
• Add'l Items: NONE

Links:

• NamUs: UP6005 (ARCHIVE)
• Doe Network: 3627UMFL (ARCHIVE)
• FLUIDDB: 771 (ARCHIVE)
• NCMEC: N/A

Notes:
The Florida Unidentified Decedents Database (FLUIDDB) lists the address of where Largo John Doe was found as being "706 16th Avenue NW, Apt. #706B." This address is apparently no longer an apartment complex, but a paint store.

Additionally, the FLUIDDB page for Largo John Doe gives a more specific estimated age range of 21-35.

** This case is currently being handled by the Largo Police Dept. and the District 6 Pinellas Co. Medical Examiner.**​

 

[lightofmine99]

Article from the Tampa Bay Times (July 2, 1984).

Jul 02, 1984, page 13 - Tampa Bay Times at Tampa Bay Times - Tampa Bay Times Archive

View the digital scanned newspaper from Tampa Bay Times dated Jul 02, 1984, page 13.

tampabay.newspapers.com

It is behind a paywall of course.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Article from the Tampa Bay Times (July 2, 1984).

Jul 02, 1984, page 13 - Tampa Bay Times at Tampa Bay Times - Tampa Bay Times Archive

View the digital scanned newspaper from Tampa Bay Times dated Jul 02, 1984, page 13.

tampabay.newspapers.com

It is behind a paywall of course.

3627UMFL

Clipping found in Tampa Bay Times published in St. Petersburg, Florida on 7/2/1984. 3627UMFL

tampabay.newspapers.com

We don't at this time feel that it (the person) is most likely a (victim of) homocide [sic]," said patrolman Tom NiIsson. The skull will be turned over to detectives, who may send it off for forensic analysis, he said. Nilsson said that police found out about the skull when they were called to break up an argument between B S and L S at 706 16th Ave. NW.
S, 27, decided to throw out his girlfriend's personal items during the quarrel. Ms. S, 25, told Nilsson that she found the skull six or seven years ago in a duffel bag on North Fort Harrison.

 

[FansBlowing]

It was probably taken from someone's grave.

 

[lightofmine99]

Largo John Doe's NamUs was modified today but there are no public exclusions and I don't know what was changed.

It was probably taken from someone's grave.

Possibly. But it could also be an old medical specimen, some of which were acquired under ethically questionable circumstances and some not.

Surely they must have some idea of how old the skull is. MOO.

 

[madamx]

1984 and the woman said she “found” it 6 or 7 years ago so that would be 1977 or 1978. I wonder if they could tell if the skull was really an old artifact or if it was from the 1970s ?

 

[summergirl1]

Dentals Unknown? It says he is Caucasian, but he looks a bit Asian or something to me.

 

[HopeRains]

Finding a skull in a duffel bag at a bus stop and then taking it home and putting it on your nightstand is sketchy to me. If true, then it's profoundly odd.

 

[summergirl1]

It may have been left there by someone who didn't want to be associated with it. People can be strange, and the truth stranger than fiction. I wonder if the skull had teeth? No dentals seems odd for a skull unless they were misplaced. One of the links in the very first post, to "Florida Decedents Database'' lists his race as "Unknown", interestingly.

 

[Sleuthster]

3627UMFL

Clipping found in Tampa Bay Times published in St. Petersburg, Florida on 7/2/1984. 3627UMFL

tampabay.newspapers.com

We don't at this time feel that it (the person) is most likely a (victim of) homocide [sic]," said patrolman Tom NiIsson. The skull will be turned over to detectives, who may send it off for forensic analysis, he said. Nilsson said that police found out about the skull when they were called to break up an argument between B S and L S at 706 16th Ave. NW.
S, 27, decided to throw out his girlfriend's personal items during the quarrel. Ms. S, 25, told Nilsson that she found the skull six or seven years ago in a duffel bag on North Fort Harrison.

This is where the city bus terminal was, between ft harrison and garden ave. Right across the street from the Old Ft harrison hotel aka Flag center scientolgy. I used to ride to the bus to St Petersburg College in the 80s. It was a fairly large terminal with several benches and about 6 buses could park at one time.

 

[Sleuthster]

I'd like to know what else was in duffel bag when she found it or was it just the skull