Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #13

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Ohhh interesting, they aren't talking anymore? is it cause jenn isnt talking to Anyone?
she said that when they broke up, JS was talking alot of trash about SS yet he stayed in the house until some time in Dec.....then he returned for visits but JS at this point wasnt addressing WHY or talking to her like before. and she didnt ask??? I guess, like she said, 'she says in her own business'.
 
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are we sure it was that pic and not the "Lana del ray" one? Im thinking if it was the graphic one, they would have kept it, the counsellor would have, but I was confused when/ where they found that last graphic one. Truth be told I skimmed the interviews with teachers and roommates, they didnt seem to offer much or shed any light on things. Maybe I'll listen again.
my bad.....the teacher/counselor who was meeting with Madeline said she suggested drawing exercises for Madeline so she can express her feelings because she had a difficult time verbalizing. and for Madeline to share with JS. she was concerned, because Madeline was absent from school after that and wrote words like ?why? and crying in her drawings. so she called JS about it. that is when JS said she had weekly therapy.

she's the first interview: 2/29 no commentary - its worth a listen, her entire interview but it begins at this linked point in the audio, she mentions she reached out to JS and why:
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the explicit drawings were in a notebook LE found containing algebra. it was a blurb on the news.
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Peter answers questions about Jennifer and why she hasn't been charged and what could be happening with the prosecution and her involvement.

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my bad.....the teacher/counselor who was meeting with Madeline said she suggested drawing exercises for Madeline so she can express her feelings because she had a difficult time verbalizing. and for Madeline to share with JS. she was concerned, because Madeline was absent from school after that and wrote words like ?why? and crying in her drawings. so she called JS about it. that is when JS said she had weekly therapy.

she's the first interview: 2/29 no commentary - its worth a listen, her entire interview but it begins at this linked point in the audio, she mentions she reached out to JS and why:
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the explicit drawings were in a notebook LE found containing algebra. it was a blurb on the news.
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Thank you for posting. I will listen for sure.
 
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for @IzzyBlanche
When listening, I heard the teacher talk about the green hoodie black shorts, its at @20:01
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IANAL …. so can’t comment on this question. But reading this insight prompted this thought……

So for all the feigned ‘I don’t know’, ‘not sure’, ‘I think so, or maybe not’, or ‘it could have been’ answers (or words to that effect to investigators) from JS and seeming out of touch or aloofness displayed and almost clueless - then how did this individual JS so readily realize at that moment when confronted with the material found that……. ‘uh oh’ (my words) ….. that SS best get a lawyer quickly?

Things that make one wonder perhaps? MOO
IIRC, after she said that to the investigator, he immediately asked her why she said that, and her response was a flippant “because they have the wrong guy!”. Feel free to correct me if I’m mistaken.
 
  • #788
Where can I have a look on the Lana del Ray-pic, done by Maddie? I missed the part unfortunately.
 
  • #789
Where can I have a look on the Lana del Ray-pic, done by Maddie? I missed the part unfortunately.
In this article. The picture with summertime sadness (Lana song)

 
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When listening, I heard the teacher talk about the green hoodie black shorts, its at @20:01
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IMO, she once again abbreviates evening conversation with Madeline that nite. I would think that conversation about being ready for school would occur that nite, for instance, a reminder....'are you ready for school tomorrow'....

instead, in her subpoena LE interview she corrects herself when answering about discussing getting ready for school and what she would be wearing. changes WE to "I"....and when was 'prior'?

why wasnt she specifically asked when this discussion occurred? frustrates me. (or did LE already know, having JS, SS and Madeline's text history?)


WJ: Okay. Alright. Now, Madeline, does she lay out her clothes for school the next day, or is that something she gets in the morning, makes a game-time decision like my kid?

JS: (Quick Sigh) Typically It is a game-time decision, morning of.

WJ: Okay, what about this specific evening, do you remember anything about it?

JS: Yes. This evening WE had, um, I had already discussed prior to Stephan coming to visit that he was going to help me take Maddie to school that day. Um, so because I knew that that was what was going to happen that night, I had asked Maddie to pick out your clothes, have everything ready, have your backpack ready, your water bottle, everything you need ready, so that way you could just grab your stuff and head out. It won’t be too much--too much of a hassle in the morning. Um, and so she did. She picked out her clothing. I asked her what she was wearing, and she told me what she had picked out. I said, “Okay, fine.”
 
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I believe, in some states, once children are of a certain age (12/13) their choice of which parent to live with is considered by the courts. Maybe MS had heard that, maybe that gave her some hope. IIRC JS and MS bio-dad did have custody battles. I think if MS found out that SS was going to move back in, that little spark of hope might have given her to courage to finally tell someone, maybe something about her new age of 13 gave her some confidence. JMO.
 
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I believe, in some states, once children are of a certain age (12/13) their choice of which parent to live with is considered by the courts. Maybe MS had heard that, maybe that gave her some hope
According to this, Florida does not have a specific age in which children are allowed to speak up for themselves about custody arrangements; they can do so at any age. The catch is the judge has to consider the age of the child, their emotional and mental maturity, their health, and of course the totality of the circumstances.

Can Children Choose Who to Live with in Florida Custody Cases? (Lewert Law LLC).
 
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DBM
 
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DBM
 
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In this article. The picture with summertime sadness (Lana song)

What I find disturbing in the SS of the drawing in the link you posted (about summertime sadness) is this:

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Did she draw that because SHE has her eye on someone, or because someone (SS) has an eye on her at all times? Perhaps he's said that to her to keep her in line.

Pic source to keep things together: MSN
 
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What I find disturbing in the SS of the drawing in the link you posted (about summertime sadness) is this:

View attachment 537884

Did she draw that because SHE has her eye on someone, or because someone (SS) has an eye on her at all times? Perhaps he's said that to her to keep her in line.

Pic source to keep things together: MSN
Oh, that is creepy. Disturbing. Didn't get friend say they FaceTimed all the time (SS and MS)? Wouldn't surprise me to learn he had cameras he could remotely access -- "you're just so beautiful, I want to see you all the time". Maybe that's why she took hour long showers. It's the only place she felt safe.

JMO
 
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Oh, that is creepy. Disturbing. Didn't get friend say they FaceTimed all the time (SS and MS)? Wouldn't surprise me to learn he had cameras he could remotely access -- "you're just so beautiful, I want to see you all the time". Maybe that's why she took hour long showers. It's the only place she felt safe.

JMO
EXACTLY! And yes, her BFF mentioned FT. (BBM)

Pgs 111 & 112 of 896:

BFF told me that Maddie and Stefan were very close and that they would communicate frequently. Whenever she asked Maddie about it, she said that they just had a close relationship. BFF told me that she received two pictures of Stefan that Maddie had sent her. She described them as screenshots that appeared to have taken during a time when they were FaceTiming, however, BFF was not able to locate the photos.
 
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Oh, that is creepy. Disturbing. Didn't get friend say they FaceTimed all the time (SS and MS)? Wouldn't surprise me to learn he had cameras he could remotely access -- "you're just so beautiful, I want to see you all the time". Maybe that's why she took hour long showers. It's the only place she felt safe.

JMO
And possibly felt "dirty" :(
 
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What I find disturbing in the SS of the drawing in the link you posted (about summertime sadness) is this:

View attachment 537884

Did she draw that because SHE has her eye on someone, or because someone (SS) has an eye on her at all times? Perhaps he's said that to her to keep her in line.

Pic source to keep things together: MSN
was this the picture drawn for her counsellor when she asked Maddi to draw how she feels? what month was this drawn?
 
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