FL FL - Manatee Co., WhtFem UP1265, 11-20, drowned on the edge of Sarasota Bay, Apr'83

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I am new to websleuths and this is a huge stretch, but could Jane Doe be Emma Lorene Vaughn? It is theorized she was kidnapped from Orlando, FL, and was known to be a habitual nail-biter. Hoping this will at least bump her case.
Emma was Caucasian and this lady is Hispanic. That would not necessarily rule her out as ethnicity and race can be two different things. She could be a light skinned Hispanic.

(I’m Caucasian but heavily favor my Czech side).

Thread 'Emma Lorene Vaughn (14) - Orlando FL, 1982'
FL - Emma Lorene Vaughn (14) - Orlando FL, 1982
 
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  • #43
Emma was Caucasian and this lady is Hispanic. That would not necessarily rule her out as ethnicity and race can be two different things. She could be a light skinned Hispanic.

(I’m Caucasian but heavily favor my Czech side).

Thread 'Emma Lorene Vaughn (14) - Orlando FL, 1982'
FL - Emma Lorene Vaughn (14) - Orlando FL, 1982
I noticed this earlier in the thread; on Namus, Jane Doe is still listed as White, is it different on another database?
 
  • #44
I noticed this earlier in the thread; on Namus, Jane Doe is still listed as White, is it different on another database?
I’m not sure of the source of her ethnicity. It’s mentioned in a few posts throughout the thread.
 
  • #45
Tidy Island Jane Doe has been unidentified for 41 years today.
 
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Colorized to help with comparison

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  • #48
this to me could mean two possible scenarios:

1.) This girl hit her head and then drowned somehow
2.) She was attacked and the individual who did it threw her body into the bay
I believe she was either a runaway or was kidnapped and was killed and dumped in the water. I think the water possibly carried her body. The fact that she was naked makes me think also a possible kidnapping and makes me think she was possibly r*ped. My theory is, somebody hit her on the head with a blunt object causing her to fall unconscious then she was dumped in the water and drowned. I think she was dumped off of a bridge or off of a boat but I don’t think she died where she was found. I’m from Bradenton, FL and have been down to Sarasota multiple times. We don’t usually have jagged rocks off of our tiny islands unless they were put there as a sea wall. Since the island was underdeveloped during this time I doubt there was a sea wall. The bottom is usually just smooth sand so I don’t know what she would’ve hit her head on. I’m highly skeptical about an accidental drowning. Where were her clothes if she went skinny dipping ? Police never mentioned clothes.
 
  • #49
I believe she was either a runaway or was kidnapped and was killed and dumped in the water. I think the water possibly carried her body. The fact that she was naked makes me think also a possible kidnapping and makes me think she was possibly r*ped. My theory is, somebody hit her on the head with a blunt object causing her to fall unconscious then she was dumped in the water and drowned. I think she was dumped off of a bridge or off of a boat but I don’t think she died where she was found. I’m from Bradenton, FL and have been down to Sarasota multiple times. We don’t usually have jagged rocks off of our tiny islands unless they were put there as a sea wall. Since the island was underdeveloped during this time I doubt there was a sea wall. The bottom is usually just smooth sand so I don’t know what she would’ve hit her head on. I’m highly skeptical about an accidental drowning. Where were her clothes if she went skinny dipping ? Police never mentioned clothes.
I fully believe she was the victim of a homicide, thank you for informing me more of the geography of the area she was found in
 
  • #50
Hi y’all ! What are the odds they recorded her height wrong ? I keep looking at Victoria Lenore Sanchez but she is only 4’8. The 3 1/2 shoe size keeps throwing me off with the 5’4 height. She ran away in 11/01/82 with her friend from Colorado. Is it possible this could be her and the height was wrong ?

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Hi y’all ! What are the odds they recorded her height wrong ? I keep looking at Victoria Lenore Sanchez but she is only 4’8. The 3 1/2 shoe size keeps throwing me off with the 5’4 height. She ran away in 11/01/82 with her friend from Colorado. Is it possible this could be her and the height was wrong ?

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It's always a possibility, but I also have those measurements. Sometimes feet just don't grow with the rest of ya!
 
  • #52
Hi y’all ! What are the odds they recorded her height wrong ? I keep looking at Victoria Lenore Sanchez but she is only 4’8. The 3 1/2 shoe size keeps throwing me off with the 5’4 height. She ran away in 11/01/82 with her friend from Colorado. Is it possible this could be her and the height was wrong ?
It could be but probably not. She could have been malnourished, the spine / torso and limbs grew but the feet just didn't have enough nutrition at the right time? No idea if that is even a possibility but it could be genetic too.
 
  • #53
It could be but probably not. She could have been malnourished, the spine / torso and limbs grew but the feet just didn't have enough nutrition at the right time? No idea if that is even a possibility but it could be genetic too.
It’s possible , if you consistently wear the wrong shoe size (a size smaller than your feet) it can change how your feet grow. It is seen more in children and adults who grow up in a poorer environment that couldn’t afford to buy a bigger size every year. It essentially stunts the foots growth. There is someone that is close to me that grew up on the poorer side and their mom couldn’t afford to buy them and their siblings new shoes (a size bigger) every year. Their toes, aside from the big toe, grew curled inward, imitating a shoe almost. Their shoe size is on the smaller side compared to their height due to the stunted growth. Pokerowan’s comment makes me wonder about that though.
 
  • #54
Tidy Island Jane Doe has been unidentified for 42 years today.
 
  • #55
What about Frankie Darlene Horsley? She disappeared a month before UID was found under suspicious circumstances from North Carolina and her car was later found in South Carolina heading to Georgia. IMHO it is possible, that she was kidnapped and transported further south.

I know there is speculation, that this UID is hispanic, but NamUs lists her as white and I can see a resemblance to the clay figure.
 
  • #56
What about Frankie Darlene Horsley? She disappeared a month before UID was found under suspicious circumstances from North Carolina and her car was later found in South Carolina heading to Georgia. IMHO it is possible, that she was kidnapped and transported further south.

I know there is speculation, that this UID is hispanic, but NamUs lists her as white and I can see a resemblance to the clay figure.
I don't believe this Doe is suspected of having given birth, which would usually be noted with such a young girl/woman, but you could always submit this to ask for the lead to be investigated.
 

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