FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #2

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Just finishing up with SB's interrogation on Peter;s video and the detective says "stand up",SB stands, her back to us and Peter said "they're going to arrest her and that's the last the jury heard"
That is where the video stopped you didn't;t see her being cuffed then the female detective is shown on the stand.
Did the jury see her cuffed?

The video shown in court today showed Sarah being cuffed by the two detectives, sat down in the chair for a bit longer, and then led out in cuffs by the transport officer.

 
  • #522
The video shown in court today showed Sarah being cuffed by the two detectives, sat down in the chair for a bit longer, and then led out in cuffs by the transport officer.

I hope that part wasn't shown in error.

I mean, she WAS arrested. The jury knows that's part of the charges against her, being arrested for them.

I REALLY don't want that part of the video to cause issue.

No objection.

Hope that's the end of it.

JMO
 
  • #523
The video shown in court today showed Sarah being cuffed by the two detectives, sat down in the chair for a bit longer, and then led out in cuffs by the transport officer.

Thank you.
 
  • #524
Doesn’t battered spouse/self-defense require imminent threat in Florida? If so, how could defense argue imminent threat when she stayed in the house alone for over 12 hours after he was zipped in the suitcase? If there was imminent threat she would have called LE when she zipped him up in the suitcase or at least fled the house if there was any concern about him getting out and coming after her. The only way I can see for the defense to argue imminent danger would be for her to admit that she knew he was dead within a very short time of those cell phone videos.
 
  • #525
IANAL. If the defense intends to raise the possible prejudicial matter of defendant apparently having appeared in video being handcuffed and jury having seen that - they would be unlikely to do so until after the prosecution has put in their entire case. Preference would be to see the full case in chief evidence.

And FWIW when I thought I read up thread IIRC that there might have been two different versions of SB interview recordings with investigators that also raised concern. That could only lead IMO to potential confusion or error perhaps. SMH. MOO
 
  • #526
Just finishing up with SB's interrogation on Peter;s video and the detective says "stand up",SB stands, her back to us and Peter said "they're going to arrest her and that's the last the jury heard"
That is where the video stopped you didn't;t see her being cuffed then the female detective is shown on the stand.
Did the jury see her cuffed?

Oh I don’t know, I didn’t see it. I was responding to Megnut.
 
  • #527
When I was watching SB's interrogation at the police station and she kept repeating "it was not intentional" it made me think that she or her ex-husband had been on the internet and saw "involuntary manslaughter" as the lesser of all evils for her.

She thinks that ‘not intentional’ is her ticket to freedom. Not letting him out is intentional.
 
  • #528
So, SB is scheduled to take the stand today approx 10am or 10:30am PDT

She is put forward by her lawyer James Owens to testify as to what the events of the night of Jorge Torre's murder were and she could also be speaking to previous incidents that are otherwise not legally admissible to the court and jury.

If SB describes previous incidents whilst she's on the stand, if there is any relevant evidence to support them, such as photos or videos or police reports, they could then be admitted into evidence for the jury to consider. Owens has already attempted to submit photos of SB which he wanted to include in his opening speech to support an argument that SB had been the victim of previous violence but they were disallowed in by the Judge.

Personally I don't believe SB will take the stand today. I think she will do whatever it takes including some form of illness or self harm or major disruptive event to avoid being accountable. JMO MOO
 
  • #529
So, SB is scheduled to take the stand today approx 10am or 10:30am PDT

She is put forward by her lawyer James Owens to testify as to what the events of the night of Jorge Torre's murder were and she could also be speaking to previous incidents that are otherwise not legally admissible to the court and jury.

If SB describes previous incidents whilst she's on the stand, if there is any relevant evidence to support them, such as photos or videos or police reports, they could then be admitted into evidence for the jury to consider. Owens has already attempted to submit photos of SB which he wanted to include in his opening speech to support an argument that SB had been the victim of previous violence but they were disallowed in by the Judge.

Personally I don't believe SB will take the stand today. I think she will do whatever it takes including some form of illness or self harm or major disruptive event to avoid being accountable. JMO MOO

Unfortunately I can see SB thinking this is her time to shine. I've seen how much she likes to talk and don't see her foregoing the opportunity to fill the jury's head with her lies. Reminds me of the recent trial of a ballerina in which she was able to disparage and lie about the deceased victim to no end. Of course the victim couldn't refute or defend himself because she had murdered him. The jury didn't fall for it and found her guilty anyway but the charges weren't stiff enough in my opinion and she is still waiting to be sentenced. JMO
 
  • #530
Doesn’t battered spouse/self-defense require imminent threat in Florida? If so, how could defense argue imminent threat when she stayed in the house alone for over 12 hours after he was zipped in the suitcase? If there was imminent threat she would have called LE when she zipped him up in the suitcase or at least fled the house if there was any concern about him getting out and coming after her. The only way I can see for the defense to argue imminent danger would be for her to admit that she knew he was dead within a very short time of those cell phone videos.

No matter how Owens tries to paint this, I don't think their experts can help SB meet the test:

Under the imminent danger rule, a person must believe she is in immediate danger when using force. This rule does not take into account previous abuse or the threat of future abuse. Women who kill their batterers usually do so after one battering incident and before another one occurs. Therefore, under the traditional interpretation of the imminent danger rule, the immediacy element is not met unless the batterer is attacking the woman when she kills him. Expert testimony on the battered woman syndrome is relevant to prove a battered woman perceived she was in imminent danger and believed deadly force was necessary to prevent the batterer from seriously injuring or killing her. It is critical for the battered woman claiming self-defense to show the jury she feared imminent danger, and perhaps death, whereas ordinary persons, especially men, might not. From the perspective of the battered woman, danger is perpetually imminent. In her view, in her constant state of fear, the battered woman is faced with a dilemma of waiting for her abuser to kill her or striking out first.

 
  • #531
I think four hours of yesterdays LE footage might have dimmed SB's star shine aspirations.

I agree that there is no way she could reach the criteria for self-defence under BSS which means an intentional killing.

If she wanted to lie about murdering JT and getting off with it, she should have said after a ferocious fight she bashed him and locked him in a suitcase then rang 911... oh wait... then took some very strong anti anxiety medication to stop herself shaking whilst looking for the phone and passed out immediately in a drink x drug stupor. Yep that would have been a good story. Shame for her that she didn't think of it. Also it doesn't cover the two videos from her own phone but I'm sure she could have come up with an excuse.

JMO MOO
 
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It's live
 
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  • #536
Issues right off the block.

Defense objecting to parts of video that the State already previously said they weren't going to play.

State is frustrated.

I gather the Defense submitted a flurry of motions yesterday's for reactions.

State is itemizing. Some redactions they'll do, did like, but many were already eliminated by the State's.

I think this is a whole bunch of the Defense clogging the drain. For the purpose of clogging the drain.

JMO
 
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Justice for Jorge Torres
 
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