GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[Izzylizzy]

You'd think she'd start recording an incident during which she supposedly began fearing for her life. But only if she wasn't lying ofcourse. Seems more likely to me that she didn't record because of what she was doing to him as you say. Imo warped logic in the moment she recorded the other two incidents; she might like to relive the moments later, also maybe show to JT to teach him " a lesson" when she felt the urge.

If she was committing violence on JT during the unrecorded time ( suitcase down stairs? A bashing of his defenseless body in suitcase with the bat?) then yeah she might not record that for posterity because interferes too much with her image of herself as perfect etc and possibly even SB might recognise the blatant criminality of such actions and so best not to make a record. For clarity all this is my speculation only.

If it didn't take 2 hands to swing a bat I'm sure SB would have gleefully videoed bashing JT.

 

[jepop]

Thank you for highlighting this @jepop ….. the issue of when SB made recordings. Gets the wheels spinning in the mind.

Is it known how many other videos were found if any, made by SB on that day or evening? Only two primary evidence videos each showing a constrained and encased yet still alive JT are horrifying IMO. Are there others? And IMO it seems that SB perhaps thought this was all a cruel, sick, wicked game to her? It appears that SB was ‘having enough fun’ that she thought it would be important or entertaining (for lack of more tasteful words) to record and memorialize the suffering of her partner. Was that the real purpose of the game? Would be nice if an electronic forensic analysis could show who played those videos after JT had expired and when and how often thereafter.

As others have observed upthread, it seems even more odd that SB didn’t manage to record any incidents of alleged abuse she says she suffered that day from JT? Based on the evidence in this case it is hard not to conclude that SB was really the one that was dictating and controlling events that evening. MOO

Agree with your thoughtful posts as usual @I am not Sherlock H. I just hope the jury gives appropriate weight to considering her credibility. I believe she was the one with the power in the relationship. Imo the state better have done their homework here and have a decent rebuttal tomorrow. My concerns are disquieting atm,!

Jmo if state did undertake detailed forensic analysis of her phone activity the morning after, I'm not sure if evidence of SB viewing previous nights efforts would have emerged.

Think it's possible SB had forgotten she made the two videos the next morning. I thought I detected an oh moment at the station when being questioned by LE. I think she realised her mistake and remembered the details when detectives tried to play the vids for her and she instantly began dissembling and distracting right there. That is my take on her demeanour.at that point. Moo

 

[katatara]

On Day 3, at the request of the prosecution, SB demonstrated the approximate locations of the zipper nubs after she zipped JT into the suitcase. She supposedly left it partially open to give JT room to breathe and poke out his hand. Am posting screenshots that compare an image of the suitcase at the end of this demonstration to one in the 2nd video, taken after JT's battery with the bat. Note that the images do not match. The only zipper nub visible in the video appears to be in the red circle on the left side of the top of the suitcase. This seems to indicate the suitcase was zipped completely shut. MOO

 

[Lilibet]

On Day 3, at the request of the prosecution, SB demonstrated the approximate locations of the zipper nubs after she zipped JT into the suitcase. She supposedly left it partially open to give JT room to breathe and poke out his hand. Am posting screenshots that compare an image of the suitcase at the end of this demonstration to one in the 2nd video, taken after JT's battery with the bat. Note that the images do not match. The only zipper nub visible in the video appears to be in the red circle on the left side of the top of the suitcase. This seems to indicate the suitcase was zipped completely shut. MOO

Welcome! Good first post. Thanks!

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

On Day 3, at the request of the prosecution, SB demonstrated the approximate locations of the zipper nubs after she zipped JT into the suitcase. She supposedly left it partially open to give JT room to breathe and poke out his hand. Am posting screenshots that compare an image of the suitcase at the end of this demonstration to one in the 2nd video, taken after JT's battery with the bat. Note that the images do not match. The only zipper nub visible in the video appears to be in the red circle on the left side of the top of the suitcase. This seems to indicate the suitcase was zipped completely shut. MOO

I'm not sure if all the way shut wouldn't be across the top to the right side though? In her recorded interview with detectives prior arrest, SB gesticulated twice with her right arm how far around she drew the zipper.

Regardless, SB is a compulsive / pathalogical liar IMO and nothing she says means anything.

We know JT was trapped inside the case and died in there, we know he could only find a space to push a couple of his fingers out because a) the forensics show that and b) SB has admitted she battered his fingers with a baseball bat and pushed his fingers back inside with the baseball bat.

It would figure that if she went to the trouble to batter him so brutally that she bruised her own hand whilst wielding the baseball bat (per her testimony in court under oath), she would then certainly zip up the space to ensure his fingers couldn't come through again.

SB has stated conflicting versions - she left a part of the zipper open, went up to her room to await JT to come up to bed and for 'intimate relations' as per usual. Versus... killed JT on purpose because triggered into a trauma response. Neither of those stories make any sense. I would like to know who she rang on the phone when she went upstairs after this beating, torture, locking him in a suitcase and leaving JT to die. Hope this gets mentioned by the state. JMO MOO

 

[acehard]

On Day 3, at the request of the prosecution, SB demonstrated the approximate locations of the zipper nubs after she zipped JT into the suitcase. She supposedly left it partially open to give JT room to breathe and poke out his hand. Am posting screenshots that compare an image of the suitcase at the end of this demonstration to one in the 2nd video, taken after JT's battery with the bat. Note that the images do not match. The only zipper nub visible in the video appears to be in the red circle on the left side of the top of the suitcase. This seems to indicate the suitcase was zipped completely shut. MOO

They mentioned something about a paperclip being attached to the zip during the trial, but it was clear MOO

 

[Megnut]

I'm not sure if all the way shut wouldn't be across the top to the right side though? In her recorded interview with detectives prior arrest, SB gesticulated twice with her right arm how far around she drew the zipper.

Regardless, SB is a compulsive / pathalogical liar IMO and nothing she says means anything.

We know JT was trapped inside the case and died in there, we know he could only find a space to push a couple of his fingers out because a) the forensics show that and b) SB has admitted she battered his fingers with a baseball bat and pushed his fingers back inside with the baseball bat.

It would figure that if she went to the trouble to batter him so brutally that she bruised her own hand whilst wielding the baseball bat (per her testimony in court under oath), she would then certainly zip up the space to ensure his fingers couldn't come through again.

SB has stated conflicting versions - she left a part of the zipper open, went up to her room to await JT to come up to bed and for 'intimate relations' as per usual. Versus... killed JT on purpose because triggered into a trauma response. Neither of those stories make any sense. I would like to know who she rang on the phone when she went upstairs after this beating, torture, locking him in a suitcase and leaving JT to die. Hope this gets mentioned by the state. JMO MOO

Rbbm

This is key to everything IMO.

We don't really know if she concocted a scheme TO kill him in the suitcase but she locked him in a suitcase and was fully aware his breathing was compromised. Total indifference to human life. And that IMO is Murder2.

JMO

 

[Wishbone]

 

[Wishbone]

Watching SB shuffle papers around with those evil little hands while waiting for the trial to start. I can almost see them zipping the suitcase closed with them. Horrifying.

 

[Megnut]

Court is live.

Juror can't stay past 5:30.

Defense intends to rest, subsequent to admitting those documents from yesterday.

Defense reiterates move to acquit. Judge denies on the same grounds as before.

Judge colloquys SB. She's satisfied with counsel, strategy, no one else she wanted to call to testify.

JMO

 

[RealForReal]

Anyone else think that the criminal psychologist who testified for the defense yesterday (who met with SB 9 times) and ultimately assessed that SB had PTSD and not a personality disorder was totally hoodwinked by SB?

 

[Megnut]

I need a conversation today into which I can casually slip "colloquy"! I could listen to this judge speak all week and twice on Sunday.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Anyone else think that the criminal psychologist who testified for the defense yesterday (who met with SB 9 times) and ultimately assessed that SB had PTSD and not a personality disorder was totally hoodwinked by SB?

No. She was careful to stay away from what didn't fit. She let SB self-report. And here we are. Besides, it wasn't an assessment, it was a one-sided eval, paid for by the Defense, to serve the Defense.

Trauma, trauma, trauma -- who doesn't carry trauma? No doubt SB lived through and perpetuated plenty of it but there was no act of self-defense IMO -- only retaliation -- that night.

His death resulted from her restraining him and her indifference toward him. M2.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

State's rebuttal case begins with a doctor, chief medical officer. Quite a pedigree in psychiatrist and forensic psychiatry.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Psychiatrist not pyschologist - going for the big guns!

 

[katatara]

I think left or right depends on your orientation to the suitcase. If you are facing the open front of the suitcase with the top up and the wheels at the bottom, the left side of the suitcase is a solid sewn "hinge" and the remaining 3 sides are zippered. SB indicated that JT's back was against the solid hinge and his head was at the top of the suitcase. During the demo she moved the top nub approximately halfway across the top, and moved the bottom nub (with the attached paperclip) counterclockwise across the bottom and up to the top right corner, leaving a gap along the top edge between the two tiny metal nubs that are seen in the courtroom screenshot. She told the prosecutors she did not move the zipper after this. However there are no nubs visible along the top edge of the suitcase in the final 2/24 video, but seem to be seen faintly in the red circle.

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[sasha17]

I need a conversation today into which I can casually slip "colloquy"! I could listen to this judge speak all week and twice on Sunday.

JMO

After reading all of the scheduling memos on the court records website for this case, I've started telling my kids to "govern yourselves accordingly" when I give them instructions to do something.

 

[Megnut]

What is the State doing????

 

[Megnut]

Loooooong side bar ends in sending the jury out.

Owens had objected to the doctor offering an opinion.

Judge is now asking for him to identify the portion of a transcript he cites as basis for his objection. He says he'll object to any and every opinion.

 

[nodamselindistress]

Can't this just be cleared up on cross?