GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[Izzylizzy]

I remember Owens saying when he announced he was representing SB that she would owe him the money.
That in itself is quite weird because he didn't say he was doing it pro-bono.
Then enter 2 other attorneys and the jury consultant.
I highly doubt Owen and especially the 3 others offered their services out of the goodness of their generous spirits.

This "potential" or "actual conflict of interest" must be a legal issue that could rear it's ugly head and affect this trial/jury?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

JT said "yes ma'am" quite a few times throughout the videos when she was berating him.

Also SB was giving JT instructions what to say about her, describing her basically as an angel/saint.
I missed what that was for?
A court appearance?

He got her off her charge of assaulting him - the time he had scratches and cuts on his neck - it must have gone to court. She was training him what to say to get the case dropped.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Yep. Speaking of lording over, didnt she write about having god on her side in a couple of her unhinged letters? If there was any divine intervention in this case it was not remotely for her benefit.

Oh yes good reminder, there was all sorts of preaching in her letters to the Judge, including stuff about 'don't point your finger at anyone because when you point out, three of your fingers are pointing back at you' etc.

 

[arielilane]

@StephBuffamonte

An explosive ending to the day in the suitcase murder trial on Thursday. We heard from Jorge Torres for the first time through body cam and cell phone video. He talks about how #SarahBoone abused him too - he said she hit him "all the time"


7:14 PM · Oct 24, 2024

 

[Seattle1]

Last night at the end of the prior thread sasha17 posted this court filing by the prosecutor against Owens/team and jury consultant.
NewsNation Ashley Banfield addresses it with guest.
Did they get Movie/book rights?
Documentary?


"SBM. Did you see the motion the state filed on Monday on this exact topic? Basically, Sarah Boone is indigent, having costs (actually only investigator Billy Lane) being paid by the court. "The Defendant has secured the services of four attorneys and a jury/trial consultant — and perhaps more people that the State is unaware of at this time."

It goes on: "The defense team is expending a tremendous amount of costs having traveled from Milton, Florida to Orlando, Florida for a several week trial. The team returned to Milton, Florida prior to the arrival of Hurricane Milton in central Florida and then travelled back after it had passed — incurring additional costs."

And their point is: "The State is concerned about a potential conflict of interest between the Defendant and her team... The only way for the Court to know if there is an actual conflict of interest, rather than a potential conflict of interest, is to review the financial arrangements between the Defendant and her team."

The state's request is for the court to look into this and figure out what's going on. No filed response from the defense or the court yet, and I haven't heard this brought up at all during the trial.'

Orange County Clerk of Courts Records Search

Wow. There was always something fishy about Owens early statements here. I recall him telling the Court SB was indigent, and filing for taxpayer funds for a private investigator.
The Judge pushed Owens on working pro-bono and he seemed to talk around the matter but he was more clear with media when he denied he was working for free, and that SB would eventually pay him but did not disclose the terms-- simply made reference to jailed clients still paying him.

Fast forward to the idea of SB assigning the rights to her story to Owens and it makes sense where he'd hope to score some dollars from Netflix or similar. If it worked for the folks surrounding Sherri Papini, and even the Menendez brothers, why not SB. JMO

 

[CrimeStoppers]

There is no doubt whatsoever that both SB and JT were troubled, complex and chaotic at times. Fueled by alcohol, dependency and co-dependency, they were toxic for each other and yet, all the while, SB always kept the upper hand, knowing very well that she could control this man, and she did, right up to him begging for his life and she went upstairs, completely unbothered, unconcerned and went to sleep (or passed out). For someone so afraid, so fearful, she just waltzed upstairs like it was just any other evening full of drinking and fighting where she wins the fight / argument.

There is nothing endearing whatsoever about SB, and while JT had many moments of anger, etc., it always comes back to Sarah.

I *think* I can understand some of the sympathy for Sarah at least given just her side of things, but the videos are really JT’s testimony from the grave and Sarah gave abuse as much and more… she literally controlled this man from all aspects. She loved being in control and still trying to play victim.

It amazes me how we as a society are so quick to defend women of DV, yet so slow to give men that same defense when abused by women. Just my thoughts. Sad. So very tragic.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Seeing JT walk down that dark staircase utterly dejected after being woken up and berated by SB was heartbreaking.

And her “documentation” videos did nothing but document how controlling SHE was in that relationship.

“Go for a walk! Now!”
“You are disgusting! I don’t love you. I don’t like you. I don’t want to be with you.”

One thing these videos make absolutely clear is that SB was most certainly 100% NOT afraid of JT. She talked down to him like a misbehaving child with every single word she uttered in his direction.

Isn’t it ironic that the most damning evidence against her are the videos she created to lord over him?

I never thought there would be a day during this trial where JT would actually be getting some undeniable justice in the courtroom besides the wanting for justice for being killed.
Then came SB's documented videos .
She sure showed the world what JT was all about, eh?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I saw very little of it today but has the state said anything about leaving someone in a suitcase because you are fearing for your life makes no sense?

She let him die instead of removing herself from the ‘terrifying’ situation. Was she still going to be terrified after she let him out?
‘I guess I will let you out now, I’m no longer terrified. I just needed you to be in the suitcase while I was working through my terrors.

I don’t think that has been brought up enough. I can’t think of any other case where the ‘terrified’ person, who was able to easily get out of harm’s way decided to stay on the property with the person that they were terrified of. That should be central to the decision.

It’s very simple. You feel scared, so you leave. Is that not central to the case?

She went upstairs and rang someone, laid on her bed for half an hour before falling asleep for the best part of 12 hours. This time, she didn't call the police.

Most people having trapped someone they believed was going to harm them would flee the house and ring 911 and ask to be moved to a place of safety, bonus that the perpetrator is locked in a suitcase.

She knew he was dead IMO and she spent 12 hours wondering what to do about it, hoping her ex would deal with it, thinking up a story, and trying to imply JT died of a medical issue.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I remember Owens saying when he announced he was representing SB that she would owe him the money.
That in itself is quite weird because he didn't say he was doing it pro-bono.
Then enter 2 other attorneys and the jury consultant.
I highly doubt Owen and especially the 3 others offered their services out of the goodness of their generous spirits.

This "potential" or "actual conflict of interest" must be a legal issue that could rear it's ugly head and affect this trial/jury?

100% it's being investigated as a motion was filed by the State to know this.

Owens is not pro bono. He is also not charging a fee for his work. He says 'Sarah owes me' to news reporters. How is he paying his entire team? Is he racking up a debt on himself? A debt that he's going to try and claim back from SB who a) is indigent; b) is incarcerated with no hope of a paying job; c) is likely to be unhappy with him when she gets a possible life sentence; d) will have no hope of paying him back in the future; e) could be restrained by the laws about criminals profiting from their crimes, so she can't even write a book and pay him out... anyway who would read it?

Sarah's being owned by the court. Owens is going to be owed. Owens is going to owe a lot of people money too. Everyone is out of pocket because of this case.

Is there a stealth lobby group, pressure group, BSS trial cases group funding this case in the background? Is that legal / ethical / moral if so?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Wow. There was always something fishy about Owens early statements here. I recall him telling the Court SB was indigent, and filing for taxpayer funds for a private investigator.
The Judge pushed Owens on working pro-bono and he seemed to talk around the matter but he was more clear with media when he denied he was working for free, and that SB would eventually pay him but did not disclose the terms-- simply made reference to jailed clients still paying him.

Fast forward to the idea of SB assigning the rights to her story to Owens and it makes sense where he'd hope to score some dollars from Netflix or similar. If it worked for the folks surrounding Sherri Papini, and even the Menendez brothers, why not SB. JMO

There's a lot on line about this topic and the current ethical issues but this is interesting because it goes back to 1970.

Lawyers for Sirhan Sirhan, James E Ray

The Law: Selling a Client's Story

Selling a Client's Story Bill Boyd is a Texas lawyer who recently acquired an infamous client: Charles Watson, a local boy from Boyd's home town of McKinney who is a star suspect in the...

time.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

She went upstairs and rang someone, laid on her bed for half an hour before falling asleep for the best part of 12 hours. This time, she didn't call the police.

Most people having trapped someone they believed was going to harm them would flee the house and ring 911 and ask to be moved to a place of safety, bonus that the perpetrator is locked in a suitcase.

She knew he was dead IMO and she spent 12 hours wondering what to do about it, hoping her ex would deal with it, thinking up a story, and trying to imply JT died of a medical issue.

SB called BB.
Did he play stupid?
He testified at trial he was asleep, she was drunk, he really didn't listen, he was used to her drunk calls and hung up soon.
Basically he had no info to give on what she said.
IIRC: it was about 11:45pm

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

There's a lot on line about this topic and the current ethical issues but this is interesting because it goes back to 1970.

Lawyers for Sirhan Sirhan, James E Ray

The Law: Selling a Client's Story

Selling a Client's Story Bill Boyd is a Texas lawyer who recently acquired an infamous client: Charles Watson, a local boy from Boyd's home town of McKinney who is a star suspect in the...

time.com

Would Owens be legally allowed to sell SB's story in his own right?

I wonder if she's had a very abnormal childhood with some exceptionally abusive or traumatic facets to it that explain her personality. Maybe this is why all the experts were so swift to say oh yes definitely trauma and BSS. There's lots of allusions to 'something' and that her parents died young - plenty of people's parents die young but maybe something really bizarre has happened to her. Otherwise I can't see as anyone's interested to hear any more from or about Sarah Boone when this case is over.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

SB called BB.
Did he play stupid?
He testified at trial he was asleep, she was drunk, he really didn't listen, he was used to her drunk calls and hung up soon.
Basically he had no info to give on what she said.
IIRC: it was about 11:45pm

Ohhhh I assumed all her calls to BB were in the morning / next day.
So it wasn't 11:45 am she called it was 23:45
I'm really shocked

 

[Izzylizzy]

100% it's being investigated as a motion was filed by the State to know this.

Owens is not pro bono. He is also not charging a fee for his work. He says 'Sarah owes me' to news reporters. How is he paying his entire team? Is he racking up a debt on himself? A debt that he's going to try and claim back from SB who a) is indigent; b) is incarcerated with no hope of a paying job; c) is likely to be unhappy with him when she gets a possible life sentence; d) will have no hope of paying him back in the future; e) could be restrained by the laws about criminals profiting from their crimes, so she can't even write a book and pay him out... anyway who would read it?

Sarah's being owned by the court. Owens is going to be owed. Owens is going to owe a lot of people money too. Everyone is out of pocket because of this case.

Is there a stealth lobby group, pressure group, BSS trial cases group funding this case in the background? Is that legal / ethical / moral if so?

With the probability of her throwing him under the bus he best have her signature signing away the lawyer/client confidentiality .
Then again even if he has this SB will run to the court claiming that she signed it under duress.. her trial was close, no private lawyer, no public defender and she would have had to represent herself.
One could very well think that Owens enticed the other 2 lawyers and the jury consultant with big big bucks to sign on?
I'm going to look and see if there are organizations who have helped female defendants use the BSS defense.

 

[Luna20]

Just in:
The Torres family will be speaking tomorrow, including his ex wife and daughter.

Thanks to all for explaining the bss entry.

What video heard today was the most incriminating to Sarah?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Just in:
The Torres family will be speaking tomorrow, including his ex wife and daughter.

Thanks to all for explaining the bss entry.

What video heard today was the most incriminating to Sarah?

The ones that got me the worst were JT sobbing his heart out to the police. And SBs own videos. Despite being behind the lens, she made a horrifying documentary about herself being an abuser and tormentor of an increasingly confused and degraded vulnerable man.

At first I was thinking oh this is going to be tedious watching all this police cam footage. This case is won for the State now, I'm sure of it.

 

[SoWhat]

100% it's being investigated as a motion was filed by the State to know this.

Owens is not pro bono. He is also not charging a fee for his work. He says 'Sarah owes me' to news reporters. How is he paying his entire team? Is he racking up a debt on himself? A debt that he's going to try and claim back from SB who a) is indigent; b) is incarcerated with no hope of a paying job; c) is likely to be unhappy with him when she gets a possible life sentence; d) will have no hope of paying him back in the future; e) could be restrained by the laws about criminals profiting from their crimes, so she can't even write a book and pay him out... anyway who would read it?

Sarah's being owned by the court. Owens is going to be owed. Owens is going to owe a lot of people money too. Everyone is out of pocket because of this case.

Is there a stealth lobby group, pressure group, BSS trial cases group funding this case in the background? Is that legal / ethical / moral if so?

I can’t think of a worse defendant to support by BSS lobbying group in Florida if that even exists.

My guess is she’s claiming Brian owes her all this back alimony and that’s where he’ll recoup some costs.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Would Owens be legally allowed to sell SB's story in his own right?

I wonder if she's had a very abnormal childhood with some exceptionally abusive or traumatic facets to it that explain her personality. Maybe this is why all the experts were so swift to say oh yes definitely trauma and BSS. There's lots of allusions to 'something' and that her parents died young - plenty of people's parents die young but maybe something really bizarre has happened to her. Otherwise I can't see as anyone's interested to hear any more from or about Sarah Boone when this case is over.

Yes but with lots and lots of legal caveats unless the client signed away all their rights.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/strategist/can-a-lawyer-write-a-book-about-a-client/

IIRC: Her parents didn't' die when she was very young.
Her mom when she was a senior in HS then her father a few years later.
Not being insensitive to those who have lost their parents at any age,age.
I believe that SB's ways were already within her and the alcohol freed them.

SB's only character witness was Ms. Walker, an elderly woman who was her neighbor and they liked each other.
Did she volunteer to defend SB or was she sought out by the defense as being the only one or one of very few people that SB thought would say nice things about her?


Watching some of the videos was like watching horror movie trailers

 

[Izzylizzy]

Ohhhh I assumed all her calls to BB were in the morning / next day.
So it wasn't 11:45 am she called it was 23:45
I'm really shocked

BB had a clear recollection of SB's call to him after she found the deceased JT and her call to him while he was driving to her place to see if he was on is way.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

BB had a clear recollection of SB's call to him after she found the deceased JT and her call to him while he was driving to her place to see if he was on is way.

He said she rang him three times before he got to the house -but- I didn't realise it was also him who she had rang when she went upstairs to bed, leaving a probably deceased JT in the suitcase. I wonder what sort of things she was saying to him.