GUILTY FL - Sarah Boone, 42, charged with murdering boyfriend Jorge Torres, 42, by leaving him locked in suitcase, Winter Park, Feb 2020 #3

[Izzylizzy]

A few of many outstanding qualities about Judge M. Kraynick:
Professional
Extremely knowledgeable of the law
Clearly appreciates the jury
Great smile
Pleasant demeanor
Relatable

It’s been a pleasure to watch him preside over this trial.
There couldn't have been a better judge for the SB trial.

Does Florida have a "Judge Of The Century" Award?
If not they need one.

 

[Luna20]

BBM:
Yep, that's it.
You don't drop your child off in that environment no less let them stay there 5 days a week every other week and on alternate weekends.

It makes me wonder about his state of mind. Plus he could have offered much more when testifying.

It’s strange, not sure what to make of that.

 

[sasha17]

A few of many outstanding qualities about Judge M. Kraynick:
Professional
Extremely knowledgeable of the law
Clearly appreciates the jury
Great smile
Pleasant demeanor
Relatable

It’s been a pleasure to watch him preside over this trial.
There couldn't have been a better judge for the SB trial.

I want a livestream of Judge K's courtroom going forward so we can watch him preside over other trials in the future. I don't even care what the trial is about. I just want to watch him be excellent at his job!

 

[Izzylizzy]

It makes me wonder about his state of mind. Plus he could have offered much more when testifying.

It’s strange, not sure what to make of that.

I can't find any excuses for him letting his son be involved unsupervised with SB.

The saving grace is SB has been removed from their lives for a few years and hopefully for many,many more.
Curious if her son visits her in jail?
Hopefully the son has some strong male figures around him who have stepped up.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Anyone else think that the jurors went home with SB's videoed documentations seized in their brains?

 

[Seattle1]

The videos confirmed SB was well versed in calling 911, and having JT arrested.

If she was in fear of her life when she zipped and trapped JT inside the suitcase, why didn't she simply call 911?

Had SB called to have JT taken away, and neutralized her threat, he would still be alive today. And hopefully far away from the likes of SB.

JT should be visiting his Mother on Sunday, enjoying his daughter -- instead of his daughter coming to Court to talk about what SB took away from herself and her siblings when she suffocated her dad.

SB is vicious, cruel, and inhumane. MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

The videos confirmed SB was well versed in calling 911, and having JT arrested.

If she was in fear of her life when she zipped and trapped JT inside the suitcase, why didn't she simply call 911?

Had SB called to have JT taken away, and neutralized her threat, he would still be alive today. And hopefully far away from the likes of SB.

JT should be visiting his Mother on Sunday, enjoying his daughter -- instead of his daughter coming to Court to talk about what SB took away from herself and her siblings when she suffocated her dad.

SB is vicious, cruel, and inhumane. MOO

SB sure loved calling 911.
Until she didn't.

 

[SoWhat]

I agree that all is possible but in the meantime there was a little kid who lived in the midst of all this violent madness.
I have no tolerance for the participants and enablers when children's mental and physical health and safety are involved.

I go back and forth about what I think of Brian on a bunch fronts. I agree that it seems like he wanted Sarah to have their son more often than she did (he spent the majority of his time with his father in spite of the 50/50 time sharing because she preferred to stay in her drunken madness and was at least aware that she couldn’t do that while watching her son) and I cringe when he tells the cops he has no life because he can never take time to himself as Sarah doesn’t do her part in the parenting. I think to a degree Brian was parenting Sarah too since she was always turning up at house and badgering him for money when she wasn’t simply ignoring him because she didn’t feel like being a mother on a day she was supposed to be. Were it me, had my marriage ended because of the reasons Brian described (her drinking and bringing drunk strangers around the house all the time like her husband and son didn’t live there too) I would have wanted sole custody and would’ve fought tooth and nail for it. Were it my kid I would have cared very much about who my spouse’s new partner was and as soon as the first DV incident occurred I’d be going for an emergency petition to bar my kid from going over to her home because he might be exposed to violence and she and her boyfriend are both alcoholics, even if violence hadn’t been a factor the alcoholism is unacceptable. I’m with you on all that.

The only problem I have though is that we really don’t know what Brian did or didn’t do with respect to custody or what Sarah might have done to Brian to thwart any efforts he might have made to gain more control over their son. I just don’t like committing to the idea that someone has done something that egregious unless I can see evidence that they did. I might be too cautious in this way but that’s my take on the whole thing. We can see someone had to take a parenting course and get a certificate before final judgments and child sharing was issued but we can’t read any of the documents related to the divorce, support, and custody agreements between Brian and Sarah. For all we know Brian challenged her and she ended up doing a course so she could get joint custody. For all we know a small part of her wanting Jorge off the lease was so that no one could say she was subjecting her son to an environment in which DV was happening, she could lie and say he moved out and they broke up. Or I’m wrong about it and the man just desperately wanted to be able to take parenting time off and wasn’t concerned about what went on in the townhouse, idk. This case is chock full of horrible, horrible surprises and somehow gets worse every day. My instinct here is to give the benefit of the doubt to the people on the opposite side of a relationship with Sarah just because of what we’ve seen her do so far but I could be wrong.

 

[Seattle1]

It's not a stand alone defense -- In Florida, it's only allowed as self-defense if it meets certain criteria.

On March 1999, Florida’s Supreme Court effectively granted Florida women the ability to rely upon battered spouse syndrome as a defense to killing their abuser. Prior to the court’s decision in Weiand v. State, 732 So. 2d 1044 (Fla. 1999), an abused woman’s ability to justifiably defend herself from a physically abusive husband or live-in boyfriend was no greater than that of anyone to defend themselves in a bar fight.

To justify homicide under any claim of self defense, a defendant must establish the presence of three elements: 1) the defendant believed she must use force against an imminent threat of harm; 2) the amount of force used was proportionate to the threatened harm; and 3) the defendant retreated to the greatest degree reasonably possible. Evidence that a woman suffers from battered spouse syndrome addresses part one of this standard, namely, whether the woman honestly feared for her life.

Part three of this tripartite self defense standard, the duty to retreat, is inapplicable in a defendant’s own home because of the so-called “castle doctrine,” or privilege of nonretreat. The castle doctrine provides that if an assailant threatens a victim with violence in the victim’s own home, the victim may turn aggressor without any duty of retreat, and still be able to justify his actions by claiming self defense.... Yet, the castle doctrine is not absolute.

The remaining issue for the court, then, is what jury instruction should be given in cases of domestic violence slayings where the defendant claims self defense? Although the court points to no studies that suggest a privilege of nonretreat could result in an increase of domestic violence incidents and homicides, the court is concerned that completely eliminating a duty to retreat might invite violence. For this reason, the court adopted a jury instruction that “imposes a limited duty to retreat within the residence to the extent reasonably possible, but not to flee the residence.”

Weiand v. State and Battered Spouse Syndrome: The Toothless Tigress Can Now Roar

On March 1999, Florida’s Supreme Court effectively granted Florida women the ability to rely upon battered spouse syndrome as a defense to killing their abuser. Prior to the court’s decision in Weiand v. State, 732 So. 2d 1044 (Fla. 1999), an abused woman’s ability to justifiably defend herself...

www.floridabar.org

After the videos, I think the three phases of BSS seem more applicable to JT than to SB. SB and her defense want us to believe that she was perpetually fearful of JT but it doesn't fit when SB seems consistent as the antagonist! Even at 2 AM she's willing to wake the dude sleeping in the hallway for feigned excuses which really come down to SB being upset that he drank her bottle of vodka, and she has nothing for the next day!

IMO, SB's work history after age 20 was very sparse -- and appears she's mostly been supported by BB ever since either by way of divorce settlement or alimony.

SB also had the freedom to day drink whereas JT worked days until ACE Hardware closed after his neighborhood location did not survive Covid. Personally, I could envision JT at ACE, and he'd likely be my go to clerk. He'd be the rep who would ask how your dad was doing--remembering he was scheduled for surgery the last time you were in the store.

From the quoted link:

Battered spouse syndrome is created by a cycle of physical abuse within a relationship.

Typically, there are three phases in a cycle.

Phase one involves minor battering incidents, verbal abuse, and attempts by the woman to placate the man.

Phase two involves an “acute battering incident” where the woman is severely beaten.

Phase three is one of contrition and loving behavior on the part of the male, which reinforces the woman’s hope for her mate’s reform.

Some time later, phase one begins again. The cumulative effect of this cycle of abuse is that the woman becomes perpetually fearful of the man and feels helpless to improve her situation.

Killing her abuser becomes her only escape from the relationship.

Nope. I'm not seeing SB as fearful or needing to murder JT to to escape from the relationship. MOO

 

[Luna20]

After the videos, I think the three phases of BSS seem more applicable to JT than to SB. SB and her defense want us to believe that she was perpetually fearful of JT but it doesn't fit when SB seems consistent as the antagonist! Even at 2 AM she's willing to wake the dude sleeping in the hallway for feigned excuses which really come down to SB being upset that he drank her bottle of vodka, and she has nothing for the next day!

IMO, SB's work history after age 20 was very sparse -- and appears she's mostly been supported by BB ever since either by way of divorce settlement or alimony.

SB also had the freedom to day drink whereas JT worked days until ACE Hardware closed after his neighborhood location did not survive Covid. Personally, I could envision JT at ACE, and he'd likely be my go to clerk. He'd be the rep who would ask how your dad was doing--remembering he was scheduled for surgery the last time you were in the store.

From the quoted link:

Battered spouse syndrome is created by a cycle of physical abuse within a relationship.

Typically, there are three phases in a cycle.

Phase one involves minor battering incidents, verbal abuse, and attempts by the woman to placate the man.

Phase two involves an “acute battering incident” where the woman is severely beaten.

Phase three is one of contrition and loving behavior on the part of the male, which reinforces the woman’s hope for her mate’s reform.

Some time later, phase one begins again. The cumulative effect of this cycle of abuse is that the woman becomes perpetually fearful of the man and feels helpless to improve her situation.

Killing her abuser becomes her only escape from the relationship.

Nope. I'm not seeing SB as fearful or needing to murder JT to to escape from the relationship. MOO

I wish the state could have asked SB why she didn’t leave if she was afraid. Done, case closed. What else matters? She needed to be boxed in on answering that because there is no validity to staying when your life is at stake.

She had keys, a car and a phone.
Anyone who sees the opportunity to get to safety is going to take the opportunity. That’s the natural progression of human nature. It’s not like he was in another room, chasing her or hiding outside. It was a total risk-free escape.

It’s infuriating that they are letting her get by with that she was too scared to let him out of the suitcase. She made a conscious decision to leave the room with him in the suitcase.

She made the choice to taunt him and she made the choice to let him die.

If someone is able to cage a snake, skunk or any other dangerous species that was found in the house, they aren’t going to leave it there. There is going to be quick separation between them and the humans. Put the cage in the garage until animal control gets there. It makes no sense that she didn’t separate herself from the “terror”.

 

[Seattle1]

Disturbing 911 call Sarah Boone made played in trial over

The disturbing phone call Sarah Boone made to 911 was heard in court as she stands trial for the murder of her boyfriend, who was found dead in a suitcase.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Does Florida have a "Judge Of The Century" Award?
If not they need one.

100% Kraynick deserves an award for his temperament, his humour, his firm but fair boundary setting, and his clear, gentle, communication.

I follow the IGs of a couple of barristers who speak on interpersonal / communication skills. They're the absolute best because they spend all day dealing with difficult, challenging, and differently abled persons in the worst times of their life which brings out the worst in the client.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I wish the state could have asked SB why she didn’t leave if she was afraid. Done, case closed. What else matters? She needed to be boxed in on answering that because there is no validity to staying when your life is at stake.

She had keys, a car and a phone.
Anyone who sees the opportunity to get to safety is going to take the opportunity. That’s the natural progression of human nature. It’s not like he was in another room, chasing her or hiding outside. It was a total risk-free escape.

It’s infuriating that they are letting her get by with that she was too scared to let him out of the suitcase. She made a conscious decision to leave the room with him in the suitcase.

She made the choice to taunt him and she made the choice to let him die.

If someone is able to cage a snake, skunk or any other dangerous species that was found in the house, they aren’t going to leave it there. There is going to be quick separation between them and the humans. Put the cage in the garage until animal control gets there. It makes no sense that she didn’t separate herself from the “terror”.

I agree there's a lot of things the state didn't ask but at the same time their job is to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that SB put JT in the suitcase, battered him around a bit, zipped him firmly in and left him to die. The fact she was just upstairs is horrible and gruesom but it doesn't add or takeaway from the issues that need to be proven.

 

[rez125]

Those videos reminded me of Amber H.

 

[Tortoise]

I wish the state could have asked SB why she didn’t leave if she was afraid. Done, case closed. What else matters? She needed to be boxed in on answering that because there is no validity to staying when your life is at stake.

She had keys, a car and a phone.
Anyone who sees the opportunity to get to safety is going to take the opportunity. That’s the natural progression of human nature. It’s not like he was in another room, chasing her or hiding outside. It was a total risk-free escape.

It’s infuriating that they are letting her get by with that she was too scared to let him out of the suitcase. She made a conscious decision to leave the room with him in the suitcase.

She made the choice to taunt him and she made the choice to let him die.

If someone is able to cage a snake, skunk or any other dangerous species that was found in the house, they aren’t going to leave it there. There is going to be quick separation between them and the humans. Put the cage in the garage until animal control gets there. It makes no sense that she didn’t separate herself from the “terror”.

I think once they go down the route of asking her why she didn't unzip him, leave the house, call 911 etc, they are entering territory they don't want to get in, which is accepting the premise that she was in fear for her life.

I do believe the videos of her sitting feet away from him laughing and taunting him, with the also proclaimed belief he could easily unzip himself, and the prior recordings of her abusively controlling him and entrapping him, will speak for themselves.

I believe she told police she thought he could get himself out and it was very easy for her to unzip it. Her testimony in court is that she left a gap between the zips, through which he could fit his hand, and they put it to the officer that the zip was not as difficult to open as she demonstrated. Those are not consistent with leaving him trapped because he would kill her, or with going upstairs and being a sitting (sleeping) duck, and not phoning police.

 

[Tortoise]

There is no way Sarah would have given police a false narrative of this being unintentional, a great day, a game of hide and seek gone wrong, and hidden that she had to leave him there because he threatened to kill her, that day and the following day, with her record of call outs and complaints against him. It's a BS defense and it will fail IMO.

 

[Megnut]

I think once they go down the route of asking her why she didn't unzip him, leave the house, call 911 etc, they are entering territory they don't want to get in, which is accepting the premise that she was in fear for her life.

I do believe the videos of her sitting feet away from him laughing and taunting him, with the also proclaimed belief he could easily unzip himself, and the prior recordings of her abusively controlling him and entrapping him, will speak for themselves.

I believe she told police she thought he could get himself out and it was very easy for her to unzip it. Her testimony in court is that she left a gap between the zips, through which he could fit his hand, and they put it to the officer that the zip was not as difficult to open as she demonstrated. Those are not consistent with leaving him trapped because he would kill her, or with going upstairs and being a sitting (sleeping) duck, and not phoning police.

After she baseball-batted his hand in, I'd say there's zero chance she didn't zip it the rest of the way.

If she were even half-way truthful when she said she thought he could get out, when his hand appeared, that would have been her proof. See, he had his hand out, he could unzip it.

Except. Except she didn't want him to get out. She wanted to continue to punish him. So IMO she zipped it the rest of the way and went upstairs, wholly indifferent to the very real suffering of man, left in a very dangerous position, who was already struggling to breathe. D.E.P.R.A.V.E.D.

JMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

SUMMARY: The individual describes a troubling incident involving physical abuse from their partner, George, over a cigarette request. What started as a good day escalated when the partner became enraged after seeing them ask another man for a cigarette, as he had taken their belongings. Upon returning home, the partner confronted and attacked them, resulting in injuries like a bruised eye. The victim details being dragged down the stairs and kicked, indicating this abuse is recurring but expresses reluctance to pursue legal action despite the situation. They seek support but are conflicted about pressing charges.

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Sarah Boone trial: Closing arguments to begin in alleged ‘suitcase murder’

Attorneys in the trial of Sarah Boone are expected to present their closing arguments on Friday.

www.wftv.com

 

[Tortoise]

After she baseball-batted his hand in, I'd say there's zero chance she didn't zip it the rest of the way.

If she were even half-way truthful when she said she thought he could get out, when his hand appeared, that would have been her proof. See, he had his hand out, he could unzip it.

Except. Except she didn't want him to get out. She wanted to continue to punish him. So IMO she zipped it the rest of the way and went upstairs, wholly indifferent to the very real suffering of man, left in a very dangerous position, who was already struggling to breathe. D.E.P.R.A.V.E.D.

JMO

Is there any proof he ever had his hand out? I didn't see all of the medical examiner's testimony. Is there a possibility he was always zipped all the way, and he was bruised through the case along with the rest of his bruises?

 

[Kittybunny]

A few of many outstanding qualities about Judge M. Kraynick:
Professional
Extremely knowledgeable of the law
Clearly appreciates the jury
Great smile
Pleasant demeanor
Relatable

It’s been a pleasure to watch him preside over this trial.
There couldn't have been a better judge for the SB trial.

So true!!! He joins The Honorable Clifton Newman from the Murdaugh trial in my Amazing Judge Hall of Fame!