FL - Sarah Lunde, 13, murdered, Ruskin, 9 April 2005

[Sheromom]

How strange; ATTEMPTED rape?! I bet she just fought him as hard as she could and he killed her for it. Makes me sick.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

How strange; ATTEMPTED rape?! I bet she just fought him as hard as she could and he killed her for it. Makes me sick.

There's a little more information in the last article I posted, (10th paragraph), but I wasn't sure if it might be considered too graphic to quote. Click the link in that article to check it out. It's nothing extreme; just a tiny bit more info.

 

[mrs4point0]

How strange; ATTEMPTED rape?! I bet she just fought him as hard as she could and he killed her for it. Makes me sick.

At least there is some consolation (very little, I know) that she didn't suffer rape too. In order for it to be considered rape, there must be penetration -- even the slightest penetration will suffice. I can't imagine the fear this little girl felt. No matter how you look at it, though, this is heart-breaking. SOMETHING needs to be done that will really protect our children (in the way of prevention, not after the fact).......and not just a facade that something is being done. Unfortunately, we are living in a time where it is dangerous to let our children go outside and walk a block to a friend's house.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

At least there is some consolation (very little, I know) that she didn't suffer rape too. In order for it to be considered rape, there must be penetration -- even the slightest penetration will suffice.

After reading posts on some other threads, I don't think that this is necessarily too graphic. If I am mistaken, please feel free to remove it mod's.

Onstott Indicted In Sarah's Slaying - from TBO.com

"... It states that Onstott killed Sarah ``by blunt impact to the head and/or strangulation and/or other unknown means.'' It also says he attempted sexual battery by trying to penetrate her with his penis or fingers..."

I don't know if the scumball will ever admit what really happened that night. I'm not sure that what she suffered wasn't at least as bad as rape, even if the penetration attempt wasn't successful.

 

[mrs4point0]

After reading posts on some other threads, I don't think that this is necessarily too graphic. If I am mistaken, please feel free to remove it mod's.

Onstott Indicted In Sarah's Slaying - from TBO.com

"... It states that Onstott killed Sarah ``by blunt impact to the head and/or strangulation and/or other unknown means.'' It also says he attempted sexual battery by trying to penetrate her with his penis or fingers..."

I don't know if the scumball will ever admit what really happened that night. I'm not sure that what she suffered wasn't at least as bad as rape, even if the penetration attempt wasn't successful.

I agree. I was just taking some comfort in the fact that she wasn't actually raped. A 12-year-old should not be subject to that. IMO this guy needs to be subjected to the same terror he applied to others.

The issue I have with 'tougher laws' is that it only places stricter punishment on offenders.....it doesn't prevent the act from happening to begin with. My kids say I'm overprotective because I don't let them walk around the neighborhood without supervision. I feel it's up to me to make sure they are protected. If not me, who else is going to do it?

 

[KatherineQ]

A LOT of times, as I understand it, men who attempt to rape women fail because they lose their erection. For whatever reason, at the moment they try, it fails.

I did some work with the rape crisis center, and it was an interesting education - often men who try to rape women end up being charged with lewd behavior or sexual assault because they couldn't carry it out.

(That's what seems to me to have happened to JonBenet Ramsey, also).

 

[mrs4point0]

A LOT of times, as I understand it, men who attempt to rape women fail because they lose their erection. For whatever reason, at the moment they try, it fails.

I did some work with the rape crisis center, and it was an interesting education - often men who try to rape women end up being charged with lewd behavior or sexual assault because they couldn't carry it out.

(That's what seems to me to have happened to JonBenet Ramsey, also).

I've studied the same, and you are so right. Many times that's where the agression and anger come into play and the victim is killed. The frustration may be transferred onto the victim as if it is her fault. Rape is about power and control, and I find it ironic that they cannot grasp the very thing they seek. They lose control of the control (if that makes sense). Sadly, it's the victim that pays.

 

[lady-eowyn]

Suspect Pleads Not Guilty in Girl's Death


TAMPA, Fla. -- A sex offender charged in the slaying of a 13-year-old girl pleaded not guilty Friday, and prosecutors said they plan to seek the death penalty.

An attorney for David Lee Onstott entered the plea to charges of murder and attempted sexual battery.


Meanwhile, prosecutor Mark Ober filed court papers Friday saying he will seek the death penalty for Onstott if he is convicted of first-degree murder.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Meanwhile, prosecutor Mark Ober filed court papers Friday saying he will seek the death penalty for Onstott if he is convicted of first-degree murder.

Thank goodness! I was waiting & waiting for this decision. Sorry to say, with Onstott's history, I can't see him ever being rehabilitated. He's as dangerous as they come, IMO.

 

[kk's mom]

Thank goodness! I was waiting & waiting for this decision. Sorry to say, with Onstott's history, I can't see him ever being rehabilitated. He's as dangerous as they come, IMO.

I don't understand something. Why is it that these guys )Onstott, Couey, etc. confess, tell how they killed the victim, etc. and then plead not guilty?
Do lawyers talk them into pleading not guilty after confessing?

 

[mrs4point0]

I don't understand something. Why is it that these guys )Onstott, Couey, etc. confess, tell how they killed the victim, etc. and then plead not guilty?
Do lawyers talk them into pleading not guilty after confessing?

A plea of not guilty is entered because the state has the burden of proving the elements of the crime. Our Constitution has provided for this. If the state doesn't prove all the elements, the defendant walks free -- even if they are guilty.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Jeana mentioned something on another thread that they have to plead not guilty in a death penalty case. I don't remember the reasoning right now. I think that it's because in order to receive the DP, you must go to trial. You can't just say "I'm guilty", and have the state quietly put you to death.

Am I correct or did I miss the point?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Gainesville.com | The Gainesville Sun | Gainesville, Fla.

... (Sarah's mother, Kelly) May said Friday she was pleased Ober decided to seek death for Onstott.

''I certainly hope that it goes through, and that it's not a long wait,'' she said...

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

State Will Seek Death Penalty In Girl's Slaying - from TBO.com

... The announcement at Onstott's arraignment, (that the DA will seek the death penalty), prompted Judge E. Lamar Battles to have the case reassigned to another judge.

Battles said he was assigned to the criminal bench last month.

Judicial rules state that judges must sit on the felony court bench for at least six months and must complete a death penalty certification course before presiding over cases where execution is possible.

Battles has spent his three years as a judge in juvenile and civil court.

He is scheduled to take the death penalty certification course this month...

Kelly May, Sarah's mother, and Rebekah Lunde, Sarah's sister, attended Friday's arraignment. Afterward, they spoke publicly for the first time...

 

[mysteriew]

DCF First Eyed Onstott In 1990, Records Show

The Department of Children & Families investigated David Lee Onstott for abuse as far back as 1990 and separately investigated Sarah Michelle Lunde's family for abuse at least twice, a court hearing Friday revealed.
Onstott is accused of killing the 13-year-old Ruskin girl. He had an on-again, off-again relationship with her mother.

Records of Sarah's time in foster care are included in 1,500 pages of documents in DCF custody, which The Tampa Tribune has filed suit to unseal

http://tampatrib.com/floridametronews/MGB3YIGCF8E.html

 

[lady-eowyn]

Ruskin murder suspect accused of raping wife, molesting teen

AMPA, Florida (AP) -- The suspect in the killing of a 13-year-old Ruskin girl had been accused of raping his wife and molesting the woman's 16-year-old daughter.

Thirty-six-year-old David Onstott is charged with killing Sarah Lunde at her Ruskin mobile home and hiding her body after dating the girl's mother.

He was convicted ten years ago of raping a 25-year-old Ruskin woman. He served six years of a nine-year sentence for that crime.

[url]http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=13973
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[mysteriew]

Defendant tries to dig hole in wall, jailers say
The man accused of killing Sarah Lunde apparently was trying to escape by scraping with a metal towel holder.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/05/15/Hillsborough/Defendant_tries_to_di.shtml

 

[SewingDeb]

Records show he has fathered at least three children by different women and has defaulted on thousands of dollars in child support payments for each one.

Man this guy is one scary dude....likes older women too by the sound of it....

So sad, three children who will one day have to admit, my dad is a KILLER.....

I think he liked older women because they had young girls.

 

[mysteriew]

I just pleases me to think that he is so unhappy in jail that he would try to dig his way through a concrete wall.

 

[richandfamous]

I just pleases me to think that he is so unhappy in jail that he would try to dig his way through a concrete wall.

amen...18-inch concrete-and-steel wall. LMAO...makes my day!