FL - Sarah Lunde, 13, murdered, Ruskin, 9 April 2005

  • #81
KatherineQ said:
... maybe she didn't know about his past or suspect there was anything wrong with him.
I agree with this idea. She met a guy, went out with him for a while, and then they broke up. It's something we've all done. How many of us have suspected that our boyfriend was a registered sex offender?

I do wish, however, that this family had looked out for each other a little more. :(
 
  • #82
I know, about "look out for each other a little more". It just seems totally disjoint. Maybe it's not a true picture of how they typically are.

I am really curious, but I guess it's none of my business, exactly how the timeline went in that trailer on Sunday. I just can't imagine, at some point, the brother not mentioning the boyfriend had been by. That Sarah had come home and left again. That someone had come by from the church looking for her. Who again, said she'd already been picked up? I'm really just curious, it won't help solve the case, just bugs me.
 
  • #83
I thought I should mention that Florida is not the only state with sexual predators or missing children. You just hear about it more because of the "government in the sunshine laws". Basically the laws state that the press and public have a right to know everything the government investigates. There are no secrets. Unlike the other 49 states we can't and do not keep these things under wraps from the media except in certain cases where there are agreements with certain local media moguls not to report certain types of crimes because they do not wish to hurt the tourist industry. But, and this is a big BUT, the national media could care less about Florida's tourism dollars and will report anything remotely sensational and does, they also like to add their own twist of sensationalism to the story since it is not "their" state! The shame is that the nation hears about these crimes happening in our backyard before we do. But do not be fooled into thinking they only happen in Florida. That is naive. Pedophiles have no problem crossing state lines and right now they are leaving Florida by the hundreds in fear of the new legislation that Jessica's Law has proposed. Personally I am happy about it. I do not think it will stop these pedophiles, they will just move to another state to molest and rape children. They do not stop until they are unable to reach children either because they are locked away or dead.
 
  • #84
SoloFlyer said:
I thought I should mention that Florida is not the only state with sexual predators or missing children. You just hear about it more because of the "government in the sunshine laws". Basically the laws state that the press and public have a right to know everything the government investigates. There are no secrets. Unlike the other 49 states we can't and do not keep these things under wraps from the media except in certain cases where there are agreements with certain local media moguls not to report certain types of crimes because they do not wish to hurt the tourist industry. But, and this is a big BUT, the national media could care less about Florida's tourism dollars and will report anything remotely sensational and does, they also like to add their own twist of sensationalism to the story since it is not "their" state! The shame is that the nation hears about these crimes happening in our backyard before we do. But do not be fooled into thinking they only happen in Florida. That is naive. Pedophiles have no problem crossing state lines and right now they are leaving Florida by the hundreds in fear of the new legislation that Jessica's Law has proposed. Personally I am happy about it. I do not think it will stop these pedophiles, they will just move to another state to molest and rape children. They do not stop until they are unable to reach children either because they are locked away or dead.

Not that I want to see other children in other states be subjected to these perverts,but I will be happy if they all leave the state of Florida.I love living in Florida,and it's so pretty here and the smell of the orange blossoms is awesome,we just need to get rid of the criminal filth that lives here.
 
  • #85
I used to love Florida too Cinnimongirl, the "Old Florida". But that is gone and in its place are people who don't care, about the care free, laid back life style, that Floridians used to enjoy. People have moved to Florida from everywhere and most want to do things the way they were done where ever they are from. The small towns are now large cities and along with large cities come higher crime statistics. The Police Departments can't keep up, the school systems can't keep up. I loved it when I first moved there 20 years ago but I was so ready to get the heck out of there when I retired. I found me a nice quite little town in the WV mountains and it really is "Almost Heaven." Florida is an OK place to vacation but I would never live there again.
 
  • #86
I agree, it really stinks that the influx of transplants has destroyed our state. I have lived here all of my life, and many generation before me, same county even the same hunk of land. I've seen changes that have had me wondering if this is a good place to keep raising children. But home is where the heart is and my heart is here with my family so close. Within a 2 mile radius, I have at least 30 relatives. Most of them are related to different people in this area and we watch out for each other. I still hate that the natives are being chased out by the intruders.
 
  • #87
Lunde's mother, Kelly May, would not talk about Sarah's relationship with Onstott. But she asked for the public's help in finding her daughter.


"(I ask) if anybody knows anything, has seen or heard anything regarding Sarah's disappearance that they do call the sheriff's department immediately," she said. "Whether it's a rumor or hearsay, it doesn't matter."

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/4/13/77867.html
 
  • #88
KatherineQ said:
I know, about "look out for each other a little more". It just seems totally disjoint. Maybe it's not a true picture of how they typically are.

I am really curious, but I guess it's none of my business, exactly how the timeline went in that trailer on Sunday. I just can't imagine, at some point, the brother not mentioning the boyfriend had been by. That Sarah had come home and left again. That someone had come by from the church looking for her. Who again, said she'd already been picked up? I'm really just curious, it won't help solve the case, just bugs me.
Yeah, there sure are a lot of odd things there. The brother going to bed after arriving home & seeing the door open & the sister gone; still not notifying anyone after Onstott came by; and the stuff you mentioned above. I still suspect that it's just a family that lives in the same house but doesn't have much interaction in the same ways that most of us do with our families.

An article I posted yesterday mentioned that the pastor's wife said that Sarah is left home a lot, (I wonder who else knows that besides the pastor's wife), and that she goes to church alone. Also, when she got home, her mom was gone, her 16 year-old brother was gone, and her 20 year-old brother was gone. It was a Saturday night so that's okay but the only one that was mentioned either being home or coming home is the 17 year-old. So the two other brothers must have also stayed out either very late or overnight. I wonder if Mom knew where they were or if since Mom was away, they just did their own things.

The brother's reaction to his sister being missing tells me a lot. He comes home sometime between 2 and 4 A.M., (depending on which article you read but it seems that most say 4), and notices the door standing open & his sister gone. Yet he apparently wasn't alarmed; he went to bed. So it seems like it may be a house where people come & go as they please, and the kids make their own rules. And like someone else mentioned, the fact that this Onstott guy could knock on the door at 5 A.M., walk into the house & grab the beer, and leave again without making the brother suspicious seems to indicate that this house might often be pretty active with people coming & going and might often keep late hours.

And yet another thing, when the Mom comes home on Sunday, not only does she not call around to find Sarah because she assumes that she's sleeping over a friend's house, (no note left for Mom & that's okay?), but she also apparently didn't hear anything alarming from Andrew either. Was Andrew out when she came home? Did Andrew never mention that Sarah had been out since the wee hours of the morning the night before or that Onstott had come into the house? There are just so many things there that would have had most of us calling the police so very many hours before. But this family didn't call sooner because they didn't seem to notice anything out of the ordinary. That none of this was out of the ordinary is what is so sad to me.
 
  • #89
Shadow205 said:
Lunde's mother, Kelly May, would not talk about Sarah's relationship with Onstott. But she asked for the public's help in finding her daughter.


"(I ask) if anybody knows anything, has seen or heard anything regarding Sarah's disappearance that they do call the sheriff's department immediately," she said. "Whether it's a rumor or hearsay, it doesn't matter."

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/4/13/77867.html

That is strange! Why would the little girl have any relationship with Onstott? Did I read somewhere that the mother has a long list of criminal activity?

Also, don't you think the brother's actions are suspitiouus?

Shadow, thanks for answering my question! Thanks for your service and Best regards!
 
  • #90
richandfamous said:
Did I read somewhere that the mother has a long list of criminal activity?

Also, don't you think the brother's actions are suspitiouus?
From what I've read, the mother has a criminal record. I'm not sure how long or what types of activities.

I also found the brother's actions to be suspicious. I wondered if maybe initially he was worried about getting in trouble with his mom for being out so late or for leaving his sister alone, and that's why he acted the way he did.
 
  • #91
Search Continues for Missing Ruskin Girl | theledger.com

"Time is not on our side," Gee said. "As this goes on longer and longer, we do start fearing the worst. We are not at that point yet. We're still hopeful..."

"We all agreed there is nothing else we can do now that is not already being done or being pursued," Gee said. "Our greatest hopes are that she is on a misadventure somewhere, and she is going to see this and she is going to come home..."

Lunde said when he told Onstott his mother wasn't home, Onstott grabbed a half-empty bottle of beer from the kitchen and left. Andrew Lunde said the bottle hadn't been there at midnight when he left for a few hours to get something to eat...

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I wish we knew whether Andrew let Onstott in and if the kitchen was visible from the front door. Could it be that Onstott stepped inside the front door while he was talking and then just grabbed the beer bottle that he saw sitting there? You know, the kind of visitor that just makes themself at home, walking around your house, opening your 'fridge, etc., while they talk?

Nevertheless, the door standing open when Andrew arrived home at 4 A.M. still bothers me. Even if Sarah left voluntarily with Onstott since she knew him, why would the door be standing open? (Unless he told her to come see something in his car or something like that, and he snatched her from there.)
 
  • #92
Sheriff Gee just told the searchers to stop searching and there will be a press conference at 12:30.............


guess they found her? It doesn't look good. Sad
 
  • #93
Body found of caucasion...
1/2 mile from girls house
found by abandoned fish farm partly submerge in water.
It was in an area that had been searched before by search team this morning at about 10:30
will speak later today.
They cannot say if it is her...
they have spoken with the mother already.
There is little chance it is not her.
Five mile flight restriction for news outlets
Tough for all the ppl right now.
Onstott is being questioned.
 
  • #94
Poor girl. I was hoping they would find her alive and well. At least they found her sooner rather than later. Another horrible senseless tragedy and they just keep on coming. Will it ever stop? :(
 
  • #95
Sad Day! I wish they would stop referring to her as having a history of running away....she didn't ever run away...she would go to the preachers house for a while when she argued with her mother! This whole family makes me mad as hell. Sounds like she was a good girl despite her family!

jmo
 
  • #96
The mother is an idiot. The older brother is an idiot. If they find out Sarah lived through Sunday, her brother should be locked up with the perp.

He didn't even contact his mother to say that Sarah never came home.

What kind of people are these Lundes? They are despicable, IMO.
 
  • #97
Celestrill II said:
The mother is an idiot. The older brother is an idiot. If they find out Sarah lived through Sunday, her brother should be locked up with the perp.

He didn't even contact his mother to say that Sarah never came home.

What kind of people are these Lundes? They are despicable, IMO.

Agree

I'm sick, sick, sick!

And what about this report where the mother wouldn't comment on the girls relationship with Oscott?????????? What the hell is that all about?
 
  • #98
That poor girl,and I believe it is that scum Onstott,I read he hadn't been around their house in a long time and then he just suddenly appears on the day Sarah is missing and grabs the beer,he was probably there earlier when Sarah was there and started the beer.When will these mother's also stop dating these sex offenders and bringing this scum into their home.

Rest in Peace Sarah and Jetseta
 
  • #99
I'm sure they know it's her,she had a lime green cast on her arm,it would be pretty obvious.
 
  • #100
richandfamous said:
Body found of caucasion...
1/2 mile from girls house
found by abandoned fish farm partly submerge in water.
It was in an area that had been searched before by search team this morning at about 10:30
will speak later today.
They cannot say if it is her...
they have spoken with the mother already.
There is little chance it is not her.
Five mile flight restriction for news outlets
Tough for all the ppl right now.
Onstott is being questioned.

Oh how sad...not again.:(

I just got the news...:(

Praying for them all,

Ariel
 

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