GUILTY FL - Shannon Dedrick, 7 mo., Chipley, 31 Oct 2009 #4

[passionflower]

Clothes around baby to MUFFLE baby sounds!!!!

caller.........look at Shannon's eyes.........not a happy baby!

A reporter that saw Shannon thinks she looks malnourished

 

[Kimster]

Interesting about the doc on NG saying he thinks Shannon has been malnourished.

My grand-nephew was born with a condition where his head was growing faster than his body. He had to go to a special hospital in SF for surgery and is fine now. I've wondered if Shannon has the same condition?

 

[CarrieBean]

Yeah, I saw that. I was just wondering with all those people looking out for the family, how was she failed. I guess she will let her feelings be known at some point. She seemed to hint at that anyway.

My impression was that Grandma has always known her daughter wasn't fit to care for a baby on her own. She said something about trying to get Tina to move to TX so they could all help, but she refused. Maybe she figures DCF should have recognized it also.

 

[passionflower]

Susan Baker’s husband, James, had been detained and questioned but authorities released him. Authorities stated that they do not believe that Shannon Dedrick’s father had anything to do with the child’s disappearance.

http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/

 

[panthera]

Clothes around baby to MUFFLE baby sounds!!!!

caller.........look at Shannon's eyes.........not a happy baby!

A reporter that saw Shannon thinks she looks malnourished

I'm also watching Nancy's show. What I'd like to know is ~ does the mother actually have "mental issues" or are her "problems" the result of drug use? The part about smoking pot (and cigarettes) around the baby was brought up on the show. I agree, poor little Shannon does look malnourished and unhappy. I hope from now on she's in a GOOD home! MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

My impression was that Grandma has always known her daughter wasn't fit to care for a baby on her own. She said something about trying to get Tina to move to TX so they could all help, but she refused. Maybe she figures DCF should have recognized it also.

That makes perfect sense to me. Thanks.

 

[trigger]

no maternal insticts at all...........per Dr.

These two should never be around any children unsupervised for the rest of their lives. Just like predator's.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'm also watching Nancy's show. What I'd like to know is ~ does the mother actually have "mental issues" or are her "problems" the result of drug use? The part about smoking pot (and cigarettes) around the baby was brought up on the show. I agree, poor little Shannon does look malnourished and unhappy. I hope from now on she's in a GOOD home! MOO

BBM

I asked in an earlier post if anybody else thought TM's facial features look like someone with downs syndrome. I'm not being ugly, but it's the first thing I thought of when I saw the pictures of her today.
I believe she does have "mental issues"

 

[cook78]

Did anyone else notice there seems to be a large "slit" cut in the lid of the box toward one end? I'm thinking this was an air hole. It sure makes me feel better knowing little Shannon at least had some kind of air supply!

 

[pinkpuddytat]

I feel sorry for the relatives who thought baby Shannon was fine with her parents.

Which relatives were those? chaniilove was saying that Tina's mother had tried to get Tina to live with her back around when Shannon was born, and tried to convince Florida DCF that Tina wasn't capable of handling parenthood, and Tina insisted she could handle it fine, and DCF said they didn't have grounds to take Shannon away or force Tina to live with someone else in order to keep Shannon.

 

[gitana1]

Apparently TM has a condition which leads to a large head, small body (she was 65 pounds before her pregnancy IIRC), and limited intelligence. The child appears to have the same condition. This info i got from the first thread, I think.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

IMO the mother does have mental issues and I know it has been brought up somewhere that she may have the mental capacity of a 13 year old. To me, that would explain the lack of motherly instincts as well as how SB could manipulate her.
IMO, SB has been working on this one for a long time. I think she took advantage of TM's mental state to get this baby.
I'm not saying TM is 100% innocent in this, but I can see how this "woman" could have played her like a fiddle.

 

[gitana1]

Doctors told TM that it was too early to tell if the baby would have any retardation. Also, IIRC.

 

[panthera]

These two should never be around any children unsupervised for the rest of their lives. Just like predator's.

I agree! MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

O/T: But typing and reading TM is hard for me to do without thinking "Tim Miller". lol
I've spent A LOT of time in the Haleigh RT so I guess that's why.

 

[pinkpuddytat]

Interesting about the doc on NG saying he thinks Shannon has been malnourished.

My grand-nephew was born with a condition where his head was growing faster than his body. He had to go to a special hospital in SF for surgery and is fine now. I've wondered if Shannon has the same condition?

Shannon's head is exactly the same shape as her mother's. I think it's some genetic condition, but I don't think either of them has a specific diagnosis.

 

[Isabelle]

If it is true, as Susan Baker tells us, that Tina didn't want her baby anymore and agreed to give Susan the baby, why would Susan Baker hide the baby in a box under the bed? When it was announced that the baby was missing, if Susan Baker is telling the truth, why wouldn't she let LE know that Tina didn't want her baby and gave her to Susan Baker? What is it that Susan Baker was hiding? her past?

I do hope LE and all involved are smart enough to figure this out. I think a kindergarten student could understand there is something wrong with this picture.

Also, as an NICU/ped nurse, the baby looks fine to me. She doesn't look abused. Her head does appear to be large and her close set eyes (just like her mother's) emphasize this, as well as her lack of hair. Take a look at pics of Nancy Grace's twins and tell me they didn't have large heads; with hair their heads don't seem so large.

If Tina and the dad were abusing this baby, I think there would be some obvious signs. Sure, she just stares ahead, what do you expect, she is 7 months old and if she doesn't know you, you probably won't get a smile until you work with her to gain her trust. At this age, she should start to show separation anxiety when with strangers. Maybe the mothers problems are such that she doesn't smile much or interact much with the baby - that wouldn't be abuse.

If LE doesn't figure out who's lying here, shame on them.

Thanks for letting me rant.

 

[octobermoon]

O/T: But typing and reading TM is hard for me to do without thinking "Tim Miller". lol
I've spent A LOT of time in the Haleigh RT so I guess that's why.

Me too!

 

[CarrieBean]

O/T: But typing and reading TM is hard for me to do without thinking "Tim Miller". lol
I've spent A LOT of time in the Haleigh RT so I guess that's why.

I keep thinking Tara McDonald.

 

[Isabelle]

I don't understand why the grandmother did not tell Nancy that Tina has issues mentally.

Seems in an earlier interview tonight on Nancy Grace, the grandmother did mention a problem and that she thought Tina had been manipulated. In the later interview on the same show, this was not brought up. I could be wrong though. Was crocheting at the time and just listening.