FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #13

[not_my_kids]

At the risk of having the question twisted around, I'll ask again.
Haleigh, probably exposed to heavy narcotics, unhealthy tense home environment,and a caregiver that didn't know her butt from a hole in the ground.
Caylee, well Caylee was exposed to all the things that are done around kids that aren't wanted in the first place.
How are Somer's circumstances like the two kids above? I'm not talking about any one post, I just see them being compared a lot and was wondering why.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

You saw a regular dress that any woman might wear to church, an office, or to a meeting at a child's school? Women and children are already under a psychological burka when other women have to fear that some perverted man might see more into cleavage and FB where the kids and woman herself could become a target.

Wait, You mean because she showed about 6 inches of cleavage now other women and childern have to fear for their saftey?

 

[belimom]

When I first joined Websleuths, I was b/c I was researching JonBenet, I think, I came across the WS site. I was amazed at the amount of knowledge here as well as the personal opinions. I am a RDI person. Many others are not and don't understand how us RDI's could ever suspect a family especially after they have just lost a daughter. Same for Madeline. And Haleigh.

Can we all just respect others who may have a different point of view regarding what happened to Somer as well? And then go on with our own little sleuthing routes/leads/thoughts?

It would be nice for everyone on this board to be able to toss out their thoughts/ideas without being blasted or persecuted for it. Just some basic respect.

As far as the families go, these threads are not for them. There are other ones for family support. This is the brainstorming area - who possibly could be responsible - directly or indirectly - for this innocent child's death? Of course family names/lifestyles are going to pop up. I'm sure LE has devoted time to looking at the same people, too. What if they fought amongst themselves - "How could even suspect a parent or say that about that poor mom/dad/wife/husband?" They'd have missed many guilty people if such folks were off limits. Many of these people are harmed by loved ones - and they're fair game during an investigation.

It's okay to disagree but let others follow their leads as well. This is from the short/simple TOS: It's a big world. People will disagree with you. You will disagree with them. This can be done with respect, and that's what we expect.

 

[indicat]

Wait, You mean because she showed about 6 inches of cleavage now other women and childern have to fear for their saftey?

While I'm sure there are valid points here, one extreme is just as bad as another. I did not see anywhere that it was stated in that way. Is it really more constructive to keep blowing up a point we can see your not in agreement with?

 

[indicat]

When I first joined Websleuths, I was b/c I was researching JonBenet, I think, I came across the WS site. I was amazed at the amount of knowledge here as well as the personal opinions. I am a RDI person. Many others are not and don't understand how us RDI's could ever suspect a family especially after they have just lost a daughter. Same for Madeline. And Haleigh.

Can we all just respect others who may have a different point of view regarding what happened to Somer as well? And then go on with our own little sleuthing routes/leads/thoughts?

It would be nice for everyone on this board to be able to toss out their thoughts/ideas without being blasted or persecuted for it. Just some basic respect.

As far as the families go, these threads are not for them. There are other ones for family support. This is the brainstorming area - who possibly could be responsible - directly or indirectly - for this innocent child's death? Of course family names/lifestyles are going to pop up. I'm sure LE has devoted time to looking at the same people, too. What if they fought amongst themselves - "How could even suspect a parent or say that about that poor mom/dad/wife/husband?" They'd have missed many guilty people if such folks were off limits. Many of these people are harmed by loved ones - and they're fair game during an investigation.

It's okay to disagree but let others follow their leads as well. This is from the short/simple TOS: It's a big world. People will disagree with you. You will disagree with them. This can be done with respect, and that's what we expect.

Perfect post!

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I for one am not blaming the mother for the child's abduction. My friend's child was abducted years ago never to be seen again, and they are fabulous people. But believe me, their friends and acquaintances were looked at because we all have contact with unsavory people who may glom onto us in some way whether we want them to or not. Take the stalkers of movie stars. Those stalkers have made the stars their targets. And I don't mean DT attracted attention. I mean DT has what the perp wanted- a child. And I don't even mean that it was necessarily DT's child per se. It is a child that was the target.

The problem is that we don't know why Somer was the target. Total stranger, acquaintance, or friend. But if the burned house was the spot, then it's probably someone familiar with the neighborhood for some reason. Like what? Mailman, meter reader, jogger, who knows?

When my friend got divorced, the advice she got from a friend in LE was to watch out for future boyfriends because with 2 girls she might attract someone who was far more interested in her girls. She ended up with a prince, but she was always very aware and is still aware of that with other friends who may get divorced.

When one lives a certain lifestyle, they are even more prone to attract unsavory types. I don't think they may even be aware of it at the time. To not look at who may be around the family is totally living in denial.

I don't understand why people are so emotional about it. If one is going to detect, one has to be detached and not put emotion into it because that can cloud vision.

It doesn't matter if one has done similar things as DT. It has nothing to do with you. It's about finding who did the crime. This could happen to anyone and it has. Blameless and not blameless. It doesn't matter. It's the perp who matters in this.

Nobody is saying don't look at anyone, we are supposed to do that and I think everyone has been doing just that.

These post though are going to extremes pointing at the moms life style as the reason Somer is gone and not directing us in anyway of where to look or who to look at because we have looked at everyone we know. So it seems to me it is just being said to trash the mom.

Give me someone to look at, give me a tip to look at, a realistic direction to go.

 

[eyes4crime]

Maybe she was reacting to the sarcasm dripping from that post. The "Poor child!" really turned my stomach a bit. Maybe you meant it sincerely, but in context of dismissing the fact that an alone Somer might have contributed to her death--it read to be in poor taste.

I'm not sure how anyone can claim, objectively, how DT's lifestyle didn't play a role. My heart hurts for her, but that emotion doesn't mean anything in terms of sleuthing. I for one won't refuse to look at someone because I feel terrible for them. But by posting incredibly suggestive photos on the internet, she was inviting attention based in sex. Perhaps some of that attention segued into personal contact. She has a young, female child that was likely sexually assaulted before she was killed and we have NO IDEA who did that, but we do know that there was a male "friend" who could have had unsupervised contact.

It doesn't mean anything, necessarily, but we can't say it means nothing.

You misread my comment - I quoted the commenter when using "poor child", those words were used to show how bad she felt for Somer walking home with only one friend. Not my description - hers. I suggest you talk to the author of the comment I quoted about it being in poor taste.

If Mom D's lifestyle was in any way responsible for the abduction and murder of her daughter, then all of us have something in our lifestyle that would equally contribute if it happened to us. Let's all hope that none of our lives are put up before America to be dissected. my humble opinion

 

[doggies]

Ahem.
I think wheat's being done here is called bashing, and we are above that. If we weren't, we'd be over on &*%$%$ or *&^$%*. We're not. We're here.
We're adults, trying to get into a little girl's head when it's been a L-o-n-g time since we've been there. We're rational, compassionate people, trying to get into a madman's head. And thank goodness, I don't think any of us have any experience in that.
Everybody take a deep breath, thank your God for your blessings, OK?
I liked this a lot better when the comments were about the case.:angel:

 

[indicat]

You misread my comment - I quoted the commenter when using "poor child", those words were used to show how bad she felt for Somer walking home with only one friend. Not my description - hers. I suggest you talk to the author of the comment I quoted about it being in poor taste.

If Mom D's lifestyle was in any way responsible for the abduction and murder of her daughter, then all of us have something in our lifestyle that would equally contribute if it happened to us. Let's all hope that none of our lives are put up before America to be dissected. my humble opinion

Respectfully, that is what we are all doing by bloging, posting, facebooking, myspace ect...if heaven forbid we are put in this situation maybe we could all learn that these things do matter.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I am truly amazed at the "diagnosing" of the family dynamics and their personal style on this thread.

There but by the Grace of God go I.......

ITA crocus. My life is not perfect, and even if was, I would never persume to judge anyone else. Just me.


BTW, all the following people have been at my house tonight begging for candy. What a night!
me.:crosseyed: :ghost: :borgsmile: :cowboy: :jester:

 

[tfrohning]

Man arrested for sexual battery in Palatka
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpo...attery-in-Palatka/djDSFFiHEkeBvmKc5zHB_w.cspx

 

[Kewpiedoll]

There are strangers in and out of Diena's home???? Maybe that's what I missed. Do you know who they are?

Did you miss the part about the high risk?

Dieana's party pictures, having FB and MS with those pics, belonging to the onlinepotsociety, 3 divorces, 3-4 boyfriends, still married yet
lives with a boyfriend, drinking and partying in the pics, .... paints a pretty good picture for me.

With a revolving door of boyfriends, who have friends, and friends of friends, do you think DT could possibly keep track of who was in and out of her home, around her young children. I think not.

I think all of her boyfriends and the people they know need to be looked at.
I'm sure LE is all over it and know all of this by now-- clear as day the reason they stated this case was complicated. It is complicated and in more ways than one.

Scarey-
AND I am still thinking that CWG is connected.

 

[capoly]

I wish there was local was here.... to go tell DT to lock her my space.
I never and look at her My Space.....and I don't intend to.:banghead::banghead:

All I know is there a little girl that was murder and LE said there a child killer on the lose. That might be a serial child killer.

IMO has nothing to do with the way DT dresses or lifestyle.

I hope all the children are safe to night has they go trick and treating.

I wish we could get back to sleuthing for that child killer......

I wish people would remember that Polly K was home with her mother, Adam W was at a mall with his mother, Dylan G was home with his mother........the list goes on and on and on.

It is not about us and what we consider moral or immoral. It is about a killer.....and nothing posted today could be considered beneficial to finding Somer's killer.

:banghead:

 

[human]

Not being from Florida and not being from the neighborhood and not knowing the family puts me at a huge disadvantage at even guessing who it might be .

It's too bad that there isn't anyway to get more info that could point anyone to any direction. It's all speculation at this point by everyone.

 

[tfrohning]

I think we can check him off. I think he different kind of offender.
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=757303&IMG=59730

 

[sorrell skye]

As I have been reading threads and catching up with all the posts, I've noticed there have been a lot of new members joining recently and commenting on this case. Is it because we're all horrified at the sheer tragedy of what happened to Somer, or is it because when we heard about it, something just didn't seem right?

I know for me personally, it was because there were aspects of this case that weren't right from the get-go and still aren't right. I rarely follow crime stories in the news. But there have been so many incongruent elements that I couldn't help but sit up and take notice.

If anyone wishes to discuss this and hopefully flesh out some new ideas, I'll be on for a bit longer. I know it's getting late (probably too late to start a new discussion), but if anyone's interested - I'm all for it!

 

[crocus]

I dunno, but I think that a lot of people who have a FB post things that are maybe TIC*, and would be so only to their friends. Some have raunchy humour, off color remarks, irony, etc. I'm sure that we ALL know someone like this in our own lives. The last thing in the world one would think about with their FB is that it would be disseminated by the whole internet world as proof of how we really live our life on a day to day basis.

 

[human]

Please, enlighten me for sure, sorrell skye!

 

[MommaD]

Man arrested for sexual battery in Palatka
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpo...attery-in-Palatka/djDSFFiHEkeBvmKc5zHB_w.cspx

wish we had a better close up pic .. I can't find him on offenders list. not saying he isn't there just I can't find him ..

 

[tfrohning]

As I have been reading threads and catching up with all the posts, I've noticed there have been a lot of new members joining recently and commenting on this case. Is it because we're all horrified at the sheer tragedy of what happened to Somer, or is it because when we heard about it, something just didn't seem right?

I know for me personally, it was because there were aspects of this case that weren't right from the get-go and still aren't right. I rarely follow crime stories in the news. But there have been so many incongruent elements that I couldn't help but sit up and take notice.

If anyone wishes to discuss this and hopefully flesh out some new ideas, I'll be on for a bit longer. I know it's getting late (probably too late to start a new discussion), but if anyone's interested - I'm all for it!

I am listening......I would love to hear or read what you are thinking.