FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #15

[Dee10]

* Machinery...I have no idea, wasn't it stated though it is not septic tanks IIRC. I wish I could think out of the box here other than bodies.

Donations - there have been many murky funds set-up for a missing child recently. You may think your giving for a specific reason ex. funeral, search, reward fund & it may be totally different than you think!!! There was someone from out of Florida that was collecting & was shut down in Haleigh's case. If you want your money for instance to go to the reward; give it to crimestoppers for instance otherwise ck everything out. If you want to give it to Mom, make sure it is not going to Dad...that happens too. Yeah, Dad's gonna have a lot of out of pocket expenses lol.

I said the other day; families should not be "allowed" to profit from a missing child, this sets up unscrupulous people to have their children go missing. I worry about the 7 month old that is missing...get the idea (just using that as example of possible concern)? It takes months usually for a proper investigation. I know people want to help...& I don't know what the answer is, but I see these donations as getting out of hand. I do not suspect the family in this case, but if the total dollar amount is published & it has there has been $13,000.00 raised before the funeral & now fundraiser have been set up through Nov. to the 22, posted the link the other day. The total figure could potentially reach 6 figures & it gives others ideas; even if they do a hoax. We live in a different society. I see a dangerous pattern & I would hate to see a child jeopardized in anyway as well as fraud. I so wish things were different, but they are not.

 

[camcneishg]

may I post a pic of what is the slide in the back yard?

 

[Noway]

Sorrell Skye ... I don't think they searched many of the garbage cans/dumpsters on Monday only because the man credited with the idea of searching trash didn't come up with the idea until Tuesday.

Searchers may have checked dumpsters/garbage cans but I don't think there was an organized search of the dumpsters/cans by LE. I thought I had seen that some had been checked but they realized they would not be able to get through them all but that might have been connected to Bruce Owens ...

Beseler credited Sheriff’s Office investigator Bruce Owens’ suggestion Tuesday that authorities check trash being picked up in Orange Park with the successful effort to find the body. He said Owens came to him with the idea and he assigned personnel to monitor all trash trucks and follow-up by checking out the trash that had been taken from Orange Park to landfills in Green Cove Springs and Folkston.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/n...rmat=&page=2&listingType=natsouth#articleFull

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/n...rmat=&page=2&listingType=natsouth#articleFull

 

[hopetohelp]

Thank you!

And did I not see (maybe I'm mixing up this daughter, Je_ _ _ _ _ with someone else) that she moved out of her mom's house in 2004? OR was it 2002?

Well, I can definitely see the daughter making him move out of that house after her mother died if its really the same girlfriend. You know, didn't the deceased gf's daughter say something about something bad happening in 2004 and then she moved out of her mom's? Or am I making that up. Thought I read that somewhere last night.

If it is the same girlfriend then its all the more sickening that he was referred to in the obit as "beloved"

 

[Dr.Fessel]

may I post a pic of what is the slide in the back yard?

Please do.

 

[hopetohelp]

I do not suspect the family in this case, but if the total dollar amount is published & it has there has been $13,000.00 raised before the funeral & now fundraiser have been set up through Nov. to the 22, posted the link the other day. The total figure could potentially reach 6 figures & it gives others ideas; even if they do a hoax. We live in a different society. I see a dangerous pattern & I would hate to see a child jeopardized in anyway as well as fraud. I so wish things were different, but they are not.

Funeral expenses were actually covered apart from the fund, I believe by the funeral home? Some third party anyway.

Both the father and mother will have expenses due to (at least in the mother's case) not being able to work and in the father's, to travel here. Maybe they could put the rest towards counseling for this family and the other children, who I am sure will need it.

 

[TxLady2]

Dr. Fessel, ITA. Information could help narrow down the possibilities for suspects. Like, was it a beating? A rape? Was she tortured? Is there a child sex predator in the neighborhood? Car accident and then disposal of the body? Some information could be published. I can see protecting the evidence but I think that the cause of death could loosen up someone's memory a bit.

It's simple. Murderers have been caught before when they say something like, "I didn't stab that guy" or "I wasn't the one who pulled the trigger." It tells LE that there was only one way the person could have known the cause of death... that they were there and/or took part in the crime.
I know of one case when they arrested someone for shooting and killing a store clerk during a convenience store robbery. He kept denying that he was even there. Finally he said something about the victim being "shot dead" and they had him. They had not even released the information that the clerk was dead, only that he had been shot. By leaving out important information like that, there is always a chance that someone will slip up and mention this detail, and incriminate themselves.

 

[camcneishg]

If you click on "view" at the top of the page, you can zoom in on it..again and again..It is beige with green metal steps and hand rail at the top....I hate that things always seem to get in the way of what I am trying to capture...calls for another trip...

 

[camcneishg]

I am gonna go do some photo shop on it and see if I can make it more visable.

 

[paris_paris]

Well, I can definitely see the daughter making him move out of that house after her mother died if its really the same girlfriend. You know, didn't the deceased gf's daughter say something about something bad happening in 2004 and then she moved out of her mom's? Or am I making that up. Thought I read that somewhere last night.

If it is the same girlfriend then its all the more sickening that he was referred to in the obit as "beloved"

I was just surfing around to try to find that. I know I read it here, but can't remember where it was linked from.

If anyone has that, I'd like to see it.

 

[ShadowGal]

Cam, couldn't view pic larger.

Thanks for posting tho.

eta

just saw you're gonna try photo shop

 

[doggies]

All the time and attention has been focused on the Gano house, but way back in one of the very first threads, when I saw the proximity of the OPAA to the house (directly across the street) on the google earth maps, my immediate thought was that she went to the park (there is a child's playground there, with swings, etc.). In my mind (thinking as a child who was upset and might not want to go home right away) that would be a likely place she could have detoured. If the Gano house was indeed the crime scene, I don't understand why LE doesn't have at least a short list of POIs. In crime investigation, if LE has the actual crime scene, which would contain evidence (no matter how "clever" the perp thinks he/she is) they then work backwards towards the perp. Criminals always leave evidence! I have serious doubts that the Gano house is the actual crime scene (where Somer died). It was declared (temporarily) the crime scene, but has never been officially declared THE CRIME SCENE. KWIM?
I can't shake the feeling that she went to the OPAA, and that was where she encountered her killer.
It would be great if we had any info on what sports activities were going on at the OPAA on the afternoon she went missing. Were there any? Or was the park more or less deserted at that time? These are my questions.

I agree with you , and I'm going to try and say something without saying anything, as per rules:
I've wondered for a long time if mom went there looking for her and accidentally ran into 1st born there, instead of going there to pick him up.
Comprende? God this is hard.

 

[eyes4crime]

* Machinery...I have no idea, wasn't it stated though it is not septic tanks IIRC. I wish I could think out of the box here other than bodies.

Donations - there have been many murky funds set-up for a missing child recently. You may think your giving for a specific reason ex. funeral, search, reward fund & it may be totally different than you think!!! There was someone from out of Florida that was collecting & was shut down in Haleigh's case. If you want your money for instance to go to the reward; give it to crimestoppers for instance otherwise ck everything out. If you want to give it to Mom, make sure it is not going to Dad...that happens too. Yeah, Dad's gonna have a lot of out of pocket expenses lol.

I said the other day; families should not be "allowed" to profit from a missing child, this sets up unscrupulous people to have their children go missing. I worry about the 7 month old that is missing...get the idea (just using that as example of possible concern)? It takes months usually for a proper investigation. I know people want to help...& I don't know what the answer is, but I see these donations as getting out of hand. I do not suspect the family in this case, but if the total dollar amount is published & it has there has been $13,000.00 raised before the funeral & now fundraiser have been set up through Nov. to the 22, posted the link the other day. The total figure could potentially reach 6 figures & it gives others ideas; even if they do a hoax. We live in a different society. I see a dangerous pattern & I would hate to see a child jeopardized in anyway as well as fraud. I so wish things were different, but they are not.

IIRC the neighbors, friends, and those who put together the events to raise money wanted mom D. to get it all - so she and the children can use it for living expenses.

Not sure what you are suggesting? Are you saying money in the 6 figure range given to the family would jeopardize other children? Do you think people would get rid of their child for the money? Thanks in advance for clarifying! :waitasec:

 

[panthera]

Technically, 911 was not called. DT flagged down a police officer, A. Coan and from there, they went to her house.

There hasn't been anything released as far as AC (the son) and his actions. He gets out of school at 3:45 and may have gone there for after-school sports or he may have gone there to look for Somer. I don't know that anyone has determined how he would have known Somer was missing (no mention in MPR from DT that she called him, just that she called her boyfriend).

Also, not sure he was living with DT at the time, so not sure where walking home would actually be.

Good evening! I just thought of something regarding the absence of a 911 call. It probably didn't even occur to Somer's mom, but at least she won't have a 911 call dissected over the airwaves and elsewhere like happened with Caylee & Haleigh. MOO

 

[hopetohelp]

I'm going to go back to the map and look at what's between the house on Cano and the rest of the way home.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I'm going to go back to the map and look at what's between the house on Cano and the rest of the way home.

I went and looked last night on google, made me sick it seemed so far away.

 

[cathdawg]

I was just surfing around to try to find that. I know I read it here, but can't remember where it was linked from.

If anyone has that, I'd like to see it.

It was a poster last night who saw her MS or facebook and it said something like" I got really messed up last night" date ? 2004

 

[eyes4crime]

My gosh - all those great maps, pictures, and researching of people and information that helped us discuss real possibilities are no longer allowed. Let's hope that the lack of important information for discussion doesn't lead us to tabloid city where mom and her children are going to be sent to the gutter....to the rungs of survival. How can important info be deleted and tabloid chit be allowed? I really wonder about that! Sorry OT I know.

 

[MeoW333]

I am beginning to think that Somer not arriving home after school was more of a normal occurrence than we have been lead to believe. JMO

Wasn;t there an article that the babysitter had mentioned that? Somer would go off and she'd get nervous and start calling other parents and then Somer would walk in?
Does anyone else recall this?
I'm going to go look for a link..

 

[SondraK]

I think those tanks would be a perfect place for a little girl to hide until siblings were gone then come out and go where I chose.