FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #16

[MommaD]

I would think they had one by now. But what jumped out at me was the fact they had not even told the Mom. Makes me think they are not releasing it hoping the killer will slip up and show inside knowledge, so to speak. :waitasec:

ETA....and since Mom has not been told, maybe she's not in the clear?

teh as far as I know NO one has been Cleared.. Haven't heard a peep from LE saying anyone is cleared but the sheriff did say he could say he, himself was only one cleared..

 

[sadnpod]

I dont know when the bf moved in, imo he has alot to do with why there hasnt been any contact. Somers nc family are devasted by this and by not being allowed to talk to ST and AT.
From personal experience, it seems that ex's do much better for their children when significant others are not allowed input in deciding matters pertaining to their children
I know DT allowed ST to become the father of the oldest boy A when they were together and it seems she is following the same pattern with new bf. CHILDREN HAVE TWO PARENTS!!!! YOUR NEW LOVE IS NOT THEIR MOTHER OR THEIR FATHER!!!
I also know their marriage fell apart while ST was deployed to Iraq. You can all guess why.
I too, think her demeanor is off. I can see the guilt she feels. Thank God I can only imagine. I dont think she caused this. But i do think she has been negligient in caring for her kids, who is around them and where they are. ALL only my opinion.

 

[SharetheLight]

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I think one of the reasons the facts keep changing (aside from media being in too big a hurry to get their "scoop" to bother to double-check or ask follow-up questions) is possibly (let me stress here possibly) because those closest to this case haven't been as forthcoming with information as they could have been or could be.
I've acted as an advocate for crime victims (child abuse cases, domestic violence cases, and assault cases), and there have been numerous occasions when the victims have withheld vital information that could have secured a conviction, because in providing that information, the victims would have implicated themselves in other crimes. In other words, in order to protect themselves from possible criminal charges, these victims chose to keep vital information secret from the investigating officers and the prosecuting attorneys. In essence, they sabotaged their own cases.

I'm not accusing anyone in this case of doing what I just described above. I'm merely suggesting that it's possible that there might be certain aspects of their private lives they might not want LE to know about (or the rest of the world, for that matter, given the media attention this case has garnered).

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I think you are absolutely correct because the simplest things don't add up. There are huge pieces missing that probably have nothing to do with Somer's disappearance. Very frustrating.
I'd like to think bringing a child's killer to justice would trump saving one's own hide (from a lesser crime, or embarrassing moment)
But like you, I've seen time and time again, that there are people out there who, for whatever reason, choose the latter. And a lot of the times it allows the killers/molester/abusers to move on to another victim.
Very Sad.
I pray this is not the case here. I want to believe that this will not happen.

 

[passionflower]

I dont know when the bf moved in, imo he has alot to do with why there hasnt been any contact. Somers nc family are devasted by this and by not being allowed to talk to ST and AT.
From personal experience, it seems that ex's do much better for their children when significant others are not allowed input in deciding matters pertaining to their children
I know DT allowed ST to become the father of the oldest boy A when they were together and it seems she is following the same pattern with new bf. CHILDREN HAVE TWO PARENTS!!!! YOUR NEW LOVE IS NOT THEIR MOTHER OR THEIR FATHER!!!
I also know their marriage fell apart while ST was deployed to Iraq. You can all guess why.
I too, think her demeanor is off. I can see the guilt she feels. Thank God I can only imagine. I dont think she caused this. But i do think she has been negligient in caring for her kids, who is around them and where they are. ALL only my opinion.

I feel so bad for the 3 children left in this mess.
Right now, they need dad aand all the love relatives can give.

 

[Cheewawa007]

I dont know when the bf moved in, imo he has alot to do with why there hasnt been any contact. Somers nc family are devasted by this and by not being allowed to talk to ST and AT.
From personal experience, it seems that ex's do much better for their children when significant others are not allowed input in deciding matters pertaining to their children
I know DT allowed ST to become the father of the oldest boy A when they were together and it seems she is following the same pattern with new bf. CHILDREN HAVE TWO PARENTS!!!! YOUR NEW LOVE IS NOT THEIR MOTHER OR THEIR FATHER!!!
I also know their marriage fell apart while ST was deployed to Iraq. You can all guess why.
I too, think her demeanor is off. I can see the guilt she feels. Thank God I can only imagine. I dont think she caused this. But i do think she has been negligient in caring for her kids, who is around them and where they are. ALL only my opinion.

Hello & welcome sadpod. Do you know if the oldest boy lives with DT? Does he have some anger management issues that you are aware of?

 

[sadnpod]

She has been extremely cold to ST in all of this, including the obit. imo, its because she is clinging to the bf, who seems very controlling. He is the one who snatched up lil ST and would not let his father hug him at the graveside. DT did not say a word, other than to snarl to ST that this was not the time to see his kids. unbelievable reaction to me at a time like that. Lil ST was obviously devasted, curled in a ball in pain. I wanted to hug him too, but all I could do was tell ST his children were watching him and to let it go for now. The funeral director then told us we were not invited to attend the "reception" at the church after and that he would be glad to buy us lunch at sonnys. To which we declined. The funeral home would not provide copy of guest books or anything other than a copy of the cards on flowers to ST. They excluded him at every turn, stating that DT had requested he not receive anything else. Her bf sat in front row with lil ST. ST and fam were seated to the left of the casket, not even in the section reserved for family. Selfishness is not a character most good mothers have. all imo.

 

[Cheewawa007]

What I find way off is why the LE are still outside of her home - three weeks after the murder. With the budget cuts, the man power needed to track down this killer.... why would they assign an officer to stand guard in front of the house? The only thing that comes to my mind is..... well quite frankly...... nothing.

 

[MommaD]

sadnpod ... what does ST say about all this??? is he going to get lawyer and try to get visitation now that his disabilities have been filed and are back correct ?? you said they are or should be back now right???

So is this why they didn't divorce.. would be better to just get checks for disabilities??

I don't understand that part. its been 2 yrs.. I would want a clean break... but that is me..

 

[sadnpod]

He lives with DT. I dont know him at all.

 

[sadnpod]

ST and DT are in the process of divorcing. ST just wants to see/speak to his children, as does his whole family. I believe he has hired an attny. I dont think he had a choice really. Please pray for the children in all of this. As usual they are the ones paying for people not getting along like mature adults. I will be returning to NC soon for somers service there. Im sure ST will return here to see his kids hopefully one day soon as well as attend the trial when the perp is arrested and tried.

 

[Spyglass]

There are several accounts set up, one for "the Thompson Family" which, by the way does not include ST. Who regulates where this money goes?

For those of you who do not know, a memorial for Somer is planned for sat, nov 14th, in graham, nc. Somer, ST, and AT also have family there that love them and are also deeply saddened and affected by her death. Her paternal grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins.... family and friends.

A single parent imo is someone sho had a child on their own and raise them alone. DT is a separated parent. not single. not divorced, with a live in bf. I heard her relative call ST a deadbeat dad in front of ST and AT. I have never heard ST say a foul word about DT. IT ALL SEEMS TO BE ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!! Just because you move on in your love life and have a live in bf does not mean that they are now the dad. These kids wanted (i saw it) their dad. How could she deprive them of this comfort? Should he have to pay to comfort HIS children?

I saw an interview on national TV with Somer's Dad before the funeral services. He appeared to me to be soliciting donations for himself. He said some people had given him money and a church was setting up an account for him and he gave the name of the church.

It was not pretty. It just sickened me that he had an opportunity to appeal to the public for help in solving this terrible murder, but used the time to appeal for money specifically sent for him in NC.

 

[MommaD]

sadnpod .. why was st staying at your house in n.c.. ??? doesn't he have a home ?? isn't his family in n.c. too?? I don't get that part .. sorry I am bit slow at times..

 

[sadnpod]

What I find way off is why the LE are still outside of her home - three weeks after the murder. With the budget cuts, the man power needed to track down this killer.... why would they assign an officer to stand guard in front of the house? The only thing that comes to my mind is..... well quite frankly...... nothing.

It makes sense if they have reason to believe the other children are in danger or some other crime is taking place in that area.

 

[MommaD]

I saw an interview on national TV with Somer's Dad before the funeral services. He appeared to me to be soliciting donations for himself. He said some people had given him money and a church was setting up an account for him and he gave the name of the church.

It was not pretty. It just sickened me that he had an opportunity to appeal to the public for help in solving this terrible murder, but used the time to appeal for money specifically sent for him in NC.

I remember seeing that.. I posted comments but got shot down fast just like I do with DT so I leave it alone... :furious:

 

[mydailyopinions]

What I find way off is why the LE are still outside of her home - three weeks after the murder. With the budget cuts, the man power needed to track down this killer.... why would they assign an officer to stand guard in front of the house? The only thing that comes to my mind is..... well quite frankly...... nothing.

It makes sense if they have reason to believe the other children are in danger or some other crime is taking place in that area.

Welcome sadnpod!
I have a question, it may have already been answered a while back, and I am just not remembering..
How much time was there between the last time Somer and her dad were together, or spoke until she went missing?

 

[Kamille]

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I think you are absolutely correct because the simplest things don't add up. There are huge pieces missing that probably have nothing to do with Somer's disappearance. Very frustrating.
I'd like to think bringing a child's killer to justice would trump saving one's own hide (from a lesser crime, or embarrassing moment)
But like you, I've seen time and time again, that there are people out there who, for whatever reason, choose the latter. And a lot of the times it allows the killers/molester/abusers to move on to another victim.
Very Sad.
I pray this is not the case here. I want to believe that this will not happen.

I think one of those "pieces" that don't add up is the possible real reason why SP was hanging around the house that day and who might have been there with him. It may have absolutely nothing to do with Somer's murder but I find it hard to believe that he just happened to be there that one day to "greet the kids". That might have sounded good to DT when she had to involve the police in looking for Somer because it took the heat off of her as having those young children walking home and being at home alone after school. I don't think in her wildest imagination that she would have thought it would turn out like this, she must have thought that Somer would turn up eventually, and now that is one story she can't go back on.

DT made a comment in one interview early on that the children got a ride to school every day and only walked home on "nice days". So how did they get home on "not nice days"? Someone must have been picking them up.

 

[sadnpod]

sadnpod .. why was st staying at your house in n.c.. ??? doesn't he have a home ?? isn't his family in n.c. too?? I don't get that part .. sorry I am bit slow at times..
Sorry, that was misleading, he was just visiting at the time. He does have family and he lives with them, his grandmother and sister.
He didnt have funds or transportation to get to fl. (I have a very small car) and his church raised the money for his trip and a concerned citizen donated the use of a handicap van. as far as an account set up for him, I believe it was initially set up for funding his trip and expenses for the service there in nc. I DONT KNOW anything about how any of this money is spent. But ST has stated to me that he will not use funds for his personal use and all money will be for kids or donated to charities for missing/exploited children such as jessicas law.

 

[Cheewawa007]

What I find way off is why the LE are still outside of her home - three weeks after the murder. With the budget cuts, the man power needed to track down this killer.... why would they assign an officer to stand guard in front of the house? The only thing that comes to my mind is..... well quite frankly...... nothing.

It makes sense if they have reason to believe the other children are in danger or some other crime is taking place in that area.

But why would the other children be in danger? Wouldn't all kids in the entire neighborhood be in danger? Why target just her home? Surely the killer would be smart enough to avoid her house for fear of being caught. Just makes no sense at all to me. Put an unmarked police car with a detective there - someone unknown as a law enforcement officer. It just doesn't add up to me.

 

[gypsyblue]

jmo....but I dont see where ST needs donations if he says they are for charities then why is he soliciting for those charities? People can donate directly to those charities, they dont need a middle man ...really.........jmooc

 

[raeann]

I saw an interview on national TV with Somer's Dad before the funeral services. He appeared to me to be soliciting donations for himself. He said some people had given him money and a church was setting up an account for him and he gave the name of the church.

It was not pretty. It just sickened me that he had an opportunity to appeal to the public for help in solving this terrible murder, but used the time to appeal for money specifically sent for him in NC.

Please try to remember that when media outlets do these "interviews" they often tape for as long as 20 or 30 minutes, yet when they air that interview it may be cut down to just two minutes of the reporters choice, or even less in some cases. Also, even when shown in full, the reporter shapes the interview and tells the person beforehand what they will be talking about. A person who is experienced and media savvy can redirect the interview by shaping their answer to give a quick yes or no to the reporters question and then move into what they WANT to say, but most average people are too nervous and/or inexperienced at public speaking to be able to do this under pressure. In other words, what is finally aired on tv may be just a small snippet of the interview and not reflective of the tone of the entire interview in any way.

jmoo