FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #19

[infinity14]

I had a bad bout with my health and had to rest for a few days..

I am back now and will help..

Thank you all so very much..

Justice for Somer....... we will get there..

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MommaD-So glad you're back, I was thinkin about you!! I hope you are feeling okay now. Justice for Somer!!

 

[Noway]

The only thing that's incorrect now is the turquoise star. You had it right before. The tanks are on the southwest corner of Gano and Solomon.

I'm going to have to recreate if I can't get the file back. I have older versions but will get to it later. Thanks ... nobody said a word all this time!

 

[MommaD]

MommaD, SP has given me the creeps since the beginning of all of this. How do we know that he stayed put and did not go pick up Somer himself in his car? Or, if by some possibility, she got by the crossing guards without being seen and made it home? Then SP sent AT out two times so that he could have more time to secure Somer in his trunk? Maybe Somer's twin was busy in his room, but AT would have seen something - so he sent her out? His line of business is really strange to me. Someone had asked if Somer were an Indigo child - due to the fact that SP and DT were such good friends. That was a very good question. Does anyone know? Anyway, SP is on the top of my list of suspects.

Tarabull, good thought. An underage perp could explain why a dumpster within the neighborhood was used. I wonder about an older sibling or a gang of kids getting back at Somer for the earlier fight with a child, and things getting waaaayyy out of hand.

Noway, thanks. I'll keep an ice-pack handy.

I just don't get it.. I would be beside my very very best friend if this terrible crime happened to them ..

media doesn't scope him out.. it is like he doesn't exist anymore.

and after I saw the area he came from .. where he use to live in same town as cp.. isn't that the route to the rosehill landfill area???

also,, I noticed on the memorial board at funeral home a couple names..

wasn't a sikes a RSO someone posted in the area?? his profile from LE site??? I thought I had all the pics but I can't find half of them. hard telling where they ended up on my computer..

I know he gave us willies .... well, there is a sikes signed the book online... its a female but still the name.. hmmm

 

[MommaD]

I'm going to have to recreate if I can't get the file back. I have older versions but will get to it later. Thanks ... nobody said a word all this time!

I am sorry noway... I just really never have seen it till now.. but there are 3 cross guards..

ps... I remember us hashing the friends house as walking to gate on debarry.. see what I mean about getting close and someone changing subject.. it has happened 4 or 5 times now.. makes a person goooo hmmmmm...

I haven't forgot what why we did it either..

 

[MommaD]

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MommaD-So glad you're back, I was thinkin about you!! I hope you are feeling okay now. Justice for Somer!!

Ahhh thank you. that is so sweet.. I just felt bad cos I posted about rehashing and I disappeared... I know my limits and I went over them.. I am just not a spring chicken like I want to be...

So how have you been.. I haven't seen you post.. you ok?? I and many others love your posts.. please don't stop just cos a few don't believe.. It is their problem not ours..

I read some very nice posts for you from posters and I was so heart felt for you.. they had amazing words and thoughts for you..

Bless you and yours.. hope you will post more with us..

 

[MommaD]

ok this is sad... 14 members signed in and this whole pg. 18 looks like mine again.. :crazy:

going to my corner.. :blushing:

 

[VirginiaTwo]

On the original police report it said that SP was there at the house much of the time. (Not exact quote). I have a hard time with single guys incessantly hanging around families with children, especially when there is no relation such as uncle or brother. It seems like these guys latch onto a family and then are always underfoot. I really wonder if DT and SP had a planned lunch or if he kind of showed up and invited himself. When your guard is down or when you need a friend, it is easy to let these kind of people get by with alot of maniplating. They can seem charming, caring, concerned, and totally supportive.

I would really like to know what time SP left the house on Oct 19th after being interviewed by LE. Did they search his car? His trunk? Did he have to take a lie detector test? Give DNA? Or did he simply say goodnight and drive away? (I am assuming he has a car. Don't know for sure).

 

[MommaD]

On the original police report it said that SP was there at the house much of the time. (Not exact quote). I have a hard time with single guys incessantly hanging around families with children, especially when there is no relation such as uncle or brother. It seems like these guys latch onto a family and then are always underfoot. I really wonder if DT and SP had a planned lunch or if he kind of showed up and invited himself. When your guard is down or when you need a friend, it is easy to let these kind of people get by with alot of maniplating. They can seem charming, caring, concerned, and totally supportive.

I would really like to know what time SP left the house on Oct 19th after being interviewed by LE. Did they search his car? His trunk? Did he have to take a lie detector test? Give DNA? Or did he simply say goodnight and drive away? (I am assuming he has a car. Don't know for sure).

Good questions.. wish we could get some answers.. I had one comment about sp when others rehashed him..
Did sp have plans later with dt and cp? or just one of them. is this why he hung around after lunch and stay till children came home.. was it his day off or did he take a day off.????
I have really been thinking since finding out both came from same very very small town that even is connected to Haleigh cummings.. I just don't see sp and cp being best buds .. but then I don't judge character very well.. am wrong most of time..

I would like to know how they are got to know each other when dt moved to florida..

 

[Chili Fries]

I'd like to post pictures detailing the Gano Street/Grove Park Drive south intersection and along Grove Park Drive south of Gano.

First, here is the corner of Gano and Grove Park Drive on the south side of Gano. You can see the crossing guard who I don't believe saw Somer. You can also see how Somer could have cut around the corner and gone south on Gano without being seen by the crossing guard. Of course she could have continued on Gano without being seen by the guard if she went through the yard also. Remember, this is looking south.

Here is the semi-secluded area on Grove Park Drive about 300 feet south of Gano. I wonder if Somer was abducted here, This is looking north towards Gano:

Finally, here is an interesting area on Grove Park Drive. It's where the car is parked in the right side of the above photo. I'm not sure how far back the fence on the right hand side goes. The area back there and to the right is undeveloped. That's where the treehouse looking thing is (it's not the shed in the picture but behind it in the trees). Also, you can see that the house on the left doesn't have a fence and is an area where Somer could have wandered back towards Bay Circle. This is on the east side of Grove Park Drive:

 

[VirginiaTwo]

Good questions.. wish we could get some answers.. I had one comment about sp when others rehashed him..
Did sp have plans later with dt and cp? or just one of them. is this why he hung around after lunch and stay till children came home.. was it his day off or did he take a day off.????
I have really been thinking since finding out both came from same very very small town that even is connected to Haleigh cummings.. I just don't see sp and cp being best buds .. but then I don't judge character very well.. am wrong most of time..

I would like to know how they are got to know each other when dt moved to florida..

I think I missed reading about the small town connection. Could you give me the name of the small town? I'm sure I could find it in the posts ...... but I have college homework to do ........ :waitasec: mostly I'm probably lazy today. lol.

 

[houndstooth]

Good questions.. wish we could get some answers.. I had one comment about sp when others rehashed him..
Did sp have plans later with dt and cp? or just one of them. is this why he hung around after lunch and stay till children came home.. was it his day off or did he take a day off.????
I have really been thinking since finding out both came from same very very small town that even is connected to Haleigh cummings.. I just don't see sp and cp being best buds .. but then I don't judge character very well.. am wrong most of time..

I would like to know how they are got to know each other when dt moved to florida..

SP wasn't at the Memorials or Funeral? Hmmm. Yet, he is the one who set up the VyStar account for donations?

I understood she asked SP to stay because her regular babysitter wasn't going to be there. By regular, does that mean since AC moved out or 17 year old girl quit or is there someone else we haven't heard about yet?

Seriously, he didn't even go to the funeral?

 

[Chili Fries]

SP wasn't at the Memorials or Funeral? Hmmm. Yet, he is the one who set up the VyStar account for donations?

I understood she asked SP to stay because her regular babysitter wasn't going to be there. By regular, does that mean since AC moved out or 17 year old girl quit or is there someone else we haven't heard about yet?

Seriously, he didn't even go to the funeral?

There were pictures of him at the funeral.

 

[infinity14]

Ahhh thank you. that is so sweet.. I just felt bad cos I posted about rehashing and I disappeared... I know my limits and I went over them.. I am just not a spring chicken like I want to be...

So how have you been.. I haven't seen you post.. you ok?? I and many others love your posts.. please don't stop just cos a few don't believe.. It is their problem not ours..

I read some very nice posts for you from posters and I was so heart felt for you.. they had amazing words and thoughts for you..

Bless you and yours.. hope you will post more with us..

Hey MommaD, just do what you can and don't worry about it!! I love reading your posts but also understand the need to rest as well. I needed a little step away time myself after hearing about the horrible picture that appeared over the weekend. I kept thinking if I wasn't explicit maybe it wouldn't have been posted, but I'm just speculating. Almost all of us are here to help find Somers murderer but I guess once in a while a sick puppie is going to slip through.
A thought I keep having, my question-not a vision,there was some talk earlier that AC (oldest son) might have A.D.D. and I just keep thinking if Somer was an Indigo child and he had A.D.D. wouldn't that just suck for him? I'm not sure where I'm going with this but the next thought is about him punching the walls after Somer was found. Guilt from actions, inactions or thoughts?

 

[VirginiaTwo]

MommaD, please don't worry about looking for the name of the town SP & CP came from. I shouldn't have asked that. Please disregard that request unless you know it from memory. I can find it. Thanks.

 

[houndstooth]

There were pictures of him at the funeral.

I thought someone said he was. Sorry, I grabbed the wrong quote to respond to. It was another one of MommaD's on a page back.
OOPS.

 

[what about this?]

I think the small town connection was Glen St. Mary's, FL, -- both SP and the bald one are from there, from what I read. This is also where Haleigh Cumming's bio mother and family live. Only about 500 people in the whole town. The connecting name -- was Sapp. It is in a prior thread. I read on another forum that a Donald Lee Sapp, registered SO who is in (or was just recently) Clay Co. jail. He was also roommates with Misty's brother, Tommy, at the time Haleigh went missing. Sapp was also in the process of renovating a trailer in the park, and Ronald Cummings is said to have said a light was on in that trailer the night Haleigh went missing. Teresa, Ron's mother, said she saw Sapp feeding something to the alligators a few days following Haleigh's disappearance.

Like I said, the Sapp connection was posted on a prior thread, about a week ago? here, and the rest is on another forum - am I allowed to say which one?

 

[pinamia]

CS is a minor. She is the daughter of Connie S. See MPR

I had checked everyone's record on that police report and CS had 3 fraudulent check convictions all on same day 4 years ago. Not the kind of friend I would like. She also works at the mall. Makes you think. She also lived in Texas. Guess what maybe CWG was her friend.

He's lived at Eaton is one hour away from Orange Park.

Houston, TX
Joplin, MO
Eaton Park, FL
Winter Haven, FL


The answer is in the police report. How could someone have his birthdate right and not be him? It was right before our eyes. CS gave Somer to CWG. That has to be it. I know I've gone full circle just to go back to the original RSO. Either he's been framed or it's him.

 

[VirginiaTwo]

I think the small town connection was Glen St. Mary's, FL, -- both SP and the bald one are from there, from what I read. This is also where Haleigh Cumming's bio mother and family live. Only about 500 people in the whole town. The connecting name -- was Sapp. It is in a prior thread. I read on another forum that a Donald Lee Sapp, registered SO who is in (or was just recently) Clay Co. jail. He was also roommates with Misty's brother, Tommy, at the time Haleigh went missing. Sapp was also in the process of renovating a trailer in the park, and Ronald Cummings is said to have said a light was on in that trailer the night Haleigh went missing. Teresa, Ron's mother, said she saw Sapp feeding something to the alligators a few days following Haleigh's disappearance.

Like I said, the Sapp connection was posted on a prior thread, about a week ago? here, and the rest is on another forum - am I allowed to say which one?

Thank you! This all seems too close for comfort. I did miss all of this. I wonder what else I have missed. Probably alot.

Please forgive me if I repeat things you've already covered or ask questions already answered. I'll try to go back and read more and see what I missed. Only three weeks left of school and I'll get my degree. So, my attention has been divided. Thanks.

 

[Noway]

Crossing guards:
Miller and Gano (was not sure if had seen)
Grove Park and Gano (was not sure if had seen)
Debarry and Gano (did not see)

Need to verify those street locations.

ORANGE PARK, FL -- One of three crossing guards Somer Thompson should have passed on her walk home from school Monday afternoon didn't see the young girl walk by the day she disappeared.

The Orange Park police officer who oversees the crossing guards says the first two, who were closest to the school, aren't sure if they saw Somer.

The first crossing station is just steps away from Grove Park Elementary, at Miller Street and West Gano Avenue. The second is about a half-mile down West Gano. At the third stop, another 2/10-mile down Gano, the crossing guard "is confident she didn't see Somer."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/


Test map

 

[Dee10]

I think I missed reading about the small town connection. Could you give me the name of the small town? I'm sure I could find it in the posts ...... but I have college homework to do ........ :waitasec: mostly I'm probably lazy today. lol.

Here it is the gem someone posted. Post #184. http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=360172&page=5

Sorry I can't remember who found this gem. Note, someone told me L. Croslin's maiden name was not SAPP, but her grandfather's last name is SAPP.