FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #24

[what about this?]

The whole lawyer thing - LE supposedly wanting that for her -- all of this TIME GOING BY . . . in the back of my mind, they could be waiting . . . allowing all of the adulation - even kind of promoting it by the "she could become an advocate" --

I'm going nuts thinking about all of this.

 

[sorrell skye]

narcissistic personality --

so, if that type of personality got a taste of a lot of attention and publicity, and then the attention went away -- what kind of things would they do to bring the attention back to themselves?

IDK - It depends on past pattern of behavior. But, without a doubt, if a person has narcissistic personality disorder, it would have begun to appear in later adolescence, fully formed in early adulthood, and that person has spent their entire life manipulating people and situations to gain the center of attention. Drama queen/king extraordinaire. Risky behaviors/law-breaking are other factors.

But many narcissists are fully functioning, just annoying to be around.

 

[sorrell skye]

But DT has shown some genuine grief. I have seen it here and there at odd times in interviews. One when some asked about how the kids are doing in the interview with her Dad and Mom standing behind her. She broke down and said "I cant talk about that right now".. that was real. And after her lawyer said they are watching the person and they should give it up.. that was real emotion.

I guess the key question then is - was she crying for Somer, or was she crying for herself?

 

[what about this?]

Well - in this situation, I would think that the emotion and tears would be uncontrollable -- I don't know. I DO KNOW -- THAT IF MY 7-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER HAD JUST BEEN FOUND MURDERED IN A LANDFILL IN GEORGIA, WITH HER LITTLE LEGS STICKING OUT, I DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY WOULD NOT BE ON TELEVISION THE VERY NEXT DAY, HAIR DONE, GIVING A NEWS CONFERENCE.

Everyone does grieve differently, though.

 

[ccane]

I wonder if Somer was just the picked on kid of the family. She said Somer was just like herself. The other kids maybe easy to handle and Somer had a little mind of her own. If someone with a narcissistic personality has a child that also craves attention too and both have tempers .. I think they probably clashed from to much alikeness. She does not show much tenderness when talking about somer but cries when asked about the other kids

 

[eyes4crime]

The posts over the Thanksgiving holidays have done nothing to lead us any closer to baby Somer's murderer. mho
What do they do?
They drag mom T. through the mud and back, and drown her in manure. Why? Must be some kind of agenda that has been trying to get off the ground here for quite some time. It managed to take off over the holidays without the regulars on. mho

Exploiting an adult halloween party from over a year ago does nothing to find the murderer of baby Somer!! mho

I think trying to cast mom T. as the murderer of her child is a waste of time. It's already been done...let common sense prevail! mho

I think trying to cast mom T. as an out of control drug addict addicted to the prescription medication Oxycontin is a waste of time. If she is addicted to prescription meds - let's not throw her in the trash, let's show some compassion and hope she gets the help needed. mho

Saying mom T. is having a good, fun time is ludicrous - please show me where and how!

I wonder what the comments would look like if they were about the people writing them...How many of us could have our entire life thrown in front of judgmental America and mass media over night...and know exactly what to say and how to say it?

I am appalled by the trashy symbolism that has been thrown around to describe mom T. I see all these hateful comments as childish and very immature. And to cast stones at mom T. because she had fun at a Halloween party over a year ago is not only childish, but incredibly shallow. ALL MY OPINIONS

Hope everyone had a great holiday! I'll be back when new information is given out and the discussion is about finding the murderer rather than mom T.

 

[sorrell skye]

But DT has shown some genuine grief. I have seen it here and there at odd times in interviews. One when some asked about how the kids are doing in the interview with her Dad and Mom standing behind her. She broke down and said "I cant talk about that right now".. that was real. And after her lawyer said they are watching the person and they should give it up.. that was real emotion.

That was such a good point that I'm quoting it again!

I think DT uses tears (or what appears to be tears) when she doesn't want to answer a question, or when she wants to draw attention away from a particular subject. I think her expressions of grief are manipulative.

 

[eyes4crime]

I wonder if Somer was just the picked on kid of the family. She said Somer was just like herself. The other kids maybe easy to handle and Somer had a little mind of her own. If someone with a narcissistic personality has a child that also craves attention too and both have tempers .. I think they probably clashed from to much alikeness. She does not show much tenderness when talking about somer but cries when asked about the other kids

I have no doubt there are many narcissistic people with children who crave attention - if they all ended up murdered and thrown in the trash, our population of children would be significantly reduced. mho

 

[Ms Suzanne]

The posts over the Thanksgiving holidays have done nothing to lead us any closer to baby Somer's murderer. mho
What do they do?
They drag mom T. through the mud and back, and drown her in manure. Why? Must be some kind of agenda that has been trying to get off the ground here for quite some time. It managed to take off over the holidays without the regulars on. mho

Exploiting an adult halloween party from over a year ago does nothing to find the murderer of baby Somer!! mho

I think trying to cast mom T. as the murderer of her child is a waste of time. It's already been done...let common sense prevail! mho

I think trying to cast mom T. as an out of control drug addict addicted to the prescription medication Oxycontin is a waste of time. If she is addicted to prescription meds - let's not throw her in the trash, let's show some compassion and hope she gets the help needed. mho

Saying mom T. is having a good, fun time is ludicrous - please show me where and how!

I wonder what the comments would look like if they were about the people writing them...How many of us could have our entire life thrown in front of judgmental America and mass media over night...and know exactly what to say and how to say it?

I am appalled by the trashy symbolism that has been thrown around to describe mom T. I see all these hateful comments as childish and very immature. And to cast stones at mom T. because she had fun at a Halloween party over a year ago is not only childish, but incredibly shallow. ALL MY OPINIONS

Hope everyone had a great holiday! I'll be back when new information is given out and the discussion is about finding the murderer rather than mom T.

Thank you.I agree.Very well said.

 

[not_my_kids]

I think if my child were found murdered, the drive for self preservation would send me out searching for fun and interaction.

Otherwise, I would likely kill myself.

But that's me. And my reaction to death, no matter who's it is, is to force myself onwards, and one way to do that is to laugh, no matter what the world thinks.

Now, in this case, it could be narcissism that is driving her, but I have seen nothing to indicate that over other explanations, and I have been following along on the sidelines since I dropped out of the active discussion.

 

[what about this?]

I honestly do not think that anyone here has a desire to trash anyone.

I thought the purpose of this was to find justice for Somer, and if that leads someone into a place that is uncomfortable for them -

It's really uncomfortable for me -- and I am really trusting, empathetic person. I haven't, honestly, seen one actual tear.

We found water on the moon -- is there any running down those cheeks?

 

[human]

LE has cleared no one. They have made that very specific. So who would be a better choice. A teenager in the neighborhood of beloved grandparents? A father of 10 who is a neighbor? A minister or priest? A teacher? A coach? It's someone.

 

[ccane]

The posts over the Thanksgiving holidays have done nothing to lead us any closer to baby Somer's murderer. mho
What do they do?
They drag mom T. through the mud and back, and drown her in manure. Why? Must be some kind of agenda that has been trying to get off the ground here for quite some time. It managed to take off over the holidays without the regulars on. mho

Exploiting an adult halloween party from over a year ago does nothing to find the murderer of baby Somer!! mho

I think trying to cast mom T. as the murderer of her child is a waste of time. It's already been done...let common sense prevail! mho

I think trying to cast mom T. as an out of control drug addict addicted to the prescription medication Oxycontin is a waste of time. If she is addicted to prescription meds - let's not throw her in the trash, let's show some compassion and hope she gets the help needed. mho

Saying mom T. is having a good, fun time is ludicrous - please show me where and how!

I wonder what the comments would look like if they were about the people writing them...How many of us could have our entire life thrown in front of judgmental America and mass media over night...and know exactly what to say and how to say it?

I am appalled by the trashy symbolism that has been thrown around to describe mom T. I see all these hateful comments as childish and very immature. And to cast stones at mom T. because she had fun at a Halloween party over a year ago is not only childish, but incredibly shallow. ALL MY OPINIONS

Hope everyone had a great holiday! I'll be back when new information is given out and the discussion is about finding the murderer rather than mom T.

I dont believe we are trying to throw her under the bus as a hobby or a boring thanksgiving holiday. We are seriously trying to weigh the circumstantial evidence and personality traits as with in case. The statistics of mothers who kill vrs RSO are very much a factor. We are not picking on a mother just because or tring to offend anyone. When Casey killed her daughter did web sluthes not look at the mom before she was charged with the crime months later. I truly do not base my opinions on myspace photos

 

[eyes4crime]

I honestly do not think that anyone here has a desire to trash anyone.

I thought the purpose of this was to find justice for Somer, and if that leads someone into a place that is uncomfortable for them -

It's really uncomfortable for me -- and I am really trusting, empathetic person. I haven't, honestly, seen one actual tear.

We found water on the moon -- is there any running down those cheeks?

If you are judging guilt and innocence by the amount of tears mom T. has shed, you are making a huge mistake. I've been a pharmacist for decades and I promise you that there are a ton of over the counter and prescription medications that can produce, alter, or stop the production of tears. Do you think all those crying on TV have real tears? there are pages and pages of OTC meds and RX meds in my reference books that prevent or enhance tear production.

Two other areas to consider: The way you are brought up as a child has a great deal to do with the way you grieve in public.

Underlying disease states affect production of tears.

ETA: STRESS affects tear production

 

[sorrell skye]

I had already come to my own opinions and conclusions, after careful thought and analysis, long before I saw any MS photos, which BTW, I viewed today for the first time.

My opinions and conclusions might be completely off-target, in which case I'll admit it loud and clear, with apologies.

If anyone has any doubt about the statistics regarding child murders, the Bureau of Justice has very good info on their website.

 

[eyes4crime]

I dont believe we are trying to throw her under the bus as a hobby or a boring thanksgiving holiday. We are seriously trying to weigh the circumstantial evidence and personality traits as with in case. The statistics of mothers who kill vrs RSO are very much a factor. We are not picking on a mother just because or tring to offend anyone. When Casey killed her daughter did web sluthes not look at the mom before she was charged with the crime months later. I truly do not base my opinions on myspace photos

Many threads back there were a group of posters analyzing mom D. from the psychoanalytic stance - from Maslow's theory and from Erickson's developmental stages. I think, everyone but Freud would be rolling in their graves at the preposterous use of theories on a blog. Are you sure you know enough about mom T. to anayze her personality traits???

 

[human]

Many threads back there were a group of posters analyzing mom D. from the psychoanalytic stance - from Maslow's theory and from Erickson's developmental stages. I think, everyone but Freud would be rolling in their graves at the preposterous use of theories on a blog. Are you sure you know enough about mom T. to anayze her personality traits???

Do you as you are analyzing her as well in a different way?

 

[what about this?]

If you are judging guilt and innocence by the amount of tears mom T. has shed, you are making a huge mistake. I've been a pharmacist for decades and I promise you that there are a ton of over the counter and prescription medications that can produce, alter, or stop the production of tears. Do you think all those crying on TV have real tears? there are pages and pages of OTC meds and RX meds in my reference books that prevent or enhance tear production.

Two other areas to consider: The way you are brought up as a child has a great deal to do with the way you grieve in public.

Underlying disease states affect production of tears.

Huh?

DT doesn't seem too inhibited to show anything in public. Sorry if that was tacky - but come on, are you saying they brought up a quiet, introverted child who can't/was taught not to show emotion?

That might work in another case -

And, are you trying to say - maybe she has taken a drug to make her NOT cry? Because . . . when real people cry, usually real, honest-to-goodness tears are there --

 

[ccane]

By family members vs. by strangers
Younger children are most likely to be murdered by a relative. According to Friedman et al.,[1] of murdered American children younger than five years old, 61% were murdered by their parents (30% murdered by mothers, and 31% by fathers); homicide was the fourth leading cause of death amongst American preschool-aged children, and the third leading cause of death amongst American children five to fourteen years old.

The killing of children is often closely related to instances of prolonged periods of child abuse. Some victims are murdered by parents as part of a murder-suicide. Parents sometimes begin administering corporal punishment that quickly escalates into severe abuse and occasionally murder, as, for example, in the Victoria Climbié case which occurred in London.

A number of murderers of children are pedophiles who commit lust murder or kill to cover up their other crimes. These latter cases are more notorious, although killings by family members are more common

 

[ccane]

Many threads back there were a group of posters analyzing mom D. from the psychoanalytic stance - from Maslow's theory and from Erickson's developmental stages. I think, everyone but Freud would be rolling in their graves at the preposterous use of theories on a blog. Are you sure you know enough about mom T. to anayze her personality traits???

Feel free to add your own theories and debate everything said. I am not here to argue my point but to weight the facts.