FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #25

[Noway]

I did find a marriage license for a man named A (no middle name) B but his birth date was in 1969.

ETA
Strange how many men there are in that Orange Park area with that name AB. If it weren't for their middle initials, things would be really crazy.

 

[eyes4crime]

Sorry Eyes.. I didnt mean it come out that way.. I certainly didnt mean that any of the offenses should be take lightly. I was tryin to lighten it up a little.. sometimes my words just dont come across with the right tone. My apologies.. sincerely.. you are certainly right and I stand corrected.

I'm sure you didn't mean to portray any of the offenses lightly sadnpod...guess I'm always thinking of those who aren't members and come on to WS to read comments. I just wanted to put forth another way to look at what you said. We really need a universal way to categorize these slugs - each state making their own rules does little justice to the victims..it lends itself to much confusion. The entire categorization of sex offenses needs an complete overhaul. mho

 

[eyes4crime]

But let us not forget the recently arrested multiple rapist in Jacksonville started out as a Romeo and Juliet offender.

I know some may be totally innocent, but with the rate of older boys having sex with underage and NOTHING ever happening, I do wonder about some of these
Romeo and Juliet SO'.

I totally agree! The final charges may have nothing to do wtih the original offense. so many plea down their case that I sometimes wonder why they even bother. And there are many innocent men with charges who never go on to commit another offense - ever. so confusing mho

 

[sadnpod]

I totally agree! The final charges may have nothing to do wtih the original offense. so many plea down their case that I sometimes wonder why they even bother. And there are many innocent men with charges who never go on to commit another offense - ever. so confusing mho

As Ive been researching the RSO's.. its seems like they know how to manipulate the system very well. I look at one in particular that everyone has pretty much written off. His was a romeo and juliet type of thing from long ago. But he doesnt register, or goes where he knows records are "backlogged" for at least a yr we know of. I could feel the "good ole boy" atmosphere of the place and the person i spoke with, said hes been checked and told me of his original offense and I thought.. not him then. Like they do.

But what if he is smart enough to be manipulating us all? What if he knows that label makes LE discard him as a POI? He travels all around without registering and sometimes he gets caught.. Ive tried to research missing kids when he gets caught.. that is usually how they are caught not registering in FL, because a kid nearby is missing. (ugh, did that make sense?) He looks eerily like the sketch of the perp in shannon paulk. What if LE there dismisses him too, because of his original offense? Thinking out loud.... It still bothers me that is name is on Police Report...and the mole under his eye..

 

[houndstooth]

Sharethelight~
Earlier today I was thinking about past posts of Freed being recommended by the sheriff.
I found on thread #23 that you mention this but say," don't post a link I'm sure it's out there". If you remember more about this, can you refresh me of the context and how much farther back I need to go. I've been skimming back and trying to recall when he first came into the picture to gauge where to look. Thank you so much. This just a little housekeeping I want to go back over to clarify.

 

[hoppyfrog]

I think we can sleuth them but we have to talk in code with what we share and be careful what is posted, which can get confusing.

Yes, it can be confusing.

First, you can sleuth anyone you want. I mean, that's your business.

The question is, what can you post here?

At this point, be extremely careful, and that's b/c this Kyle hasn't been named by LE and b/c he's apparently not a RSO.

I think you'd be safe posting only in generalities, e.g. "John <last name not given> lives in Denver and is in his mid-50's. He works in retail."

HTH,

Hoppy

 

[infinity14]

Does anybody know who the kid is on this video, left side, black sleeveless t-shirt around the 4:45 mark? Just watch him..............I couldn't stop watching him! He made my heart pound!! KWIM?



http://www.news4jax.com/video/21355067/index.html

 

[Noway]

Mention of Freed, Diena's lawyer seem to go back as far as Thread 16.


ETA: I don't know if this link will work but I searched for Freed ...
http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2613784

see page 2 for the Thread 16 entries.

ETA2
Searched for "Diena's lawyer"
http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2613858

Searched for "DT's lawyer"
http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2613870

 

[ccane]

Did they send out a notice to the neighborhood before this guy moved near the school. Was he set up by someone who wanted people to think it was a offender?

 

[eyes4crime]

As Ive been researching the RSO's.. its seems like they know how to manipulate the system very well. I look at one in particular that everyone has pretty much written off. His was a romeo and juliet type of thing from long ago. But he doesnt register, or goes where he knows records are "backlogged" for at least a yr we know of. I could feel the "good ole boy" atmosphere of the place and the person i spoke with, said hes been checked and told me of his original offense and I thought.. not him then. Like they do.

But what if he is smart enough to be manipulating us all? What if he knows that label makes LE discard him as a POI? He travels all around without registering and sometimes he gets caught.. Ive tried to research missing kids when he gets caught.. that is usually how they are caught not registering in FL, because a kid nearby is missing. (ugh, did that make sense?) He looks eerily like the sketch of the perp in shannon paulk. What if LE there dismisses him too, because of his original offense? Thinking out loud.... It still bothers me that is name is on Police Report...and the mole under his eye..

I know the exact person you are talking about. I did criminal/background checks on this guy and it was so confusing. He was in different counties in Texas and Florida (different criteria) making it difficult to figure out what took place where. I never was able to find his first offense and tend to think it was as a juvenile. Others thought his first offense was around 20yo in Texas. Seems to me he has spent most of his life running to avoid registering as a SO - wonder why? He is slick in avoiding LE and who knows what else he has avoided. At the time I checked him, there were warrants everywhere for him. With an entire country to navigate around in, I guess they can be anywhere.

I tend to think Ku. is the slug. To me, he makes the most sense. So far, nothing has come out about him other then he failed to register at his new address. Trying to be sly but at least caught.

my opinion only- I think it's a grave mistake to expunge adolescent records involving any sex crime. Whatever is being done in this country - it's simply not working. Offenders are multiplying like sick rabbits. mho

 

[SharetheLight]

Mention of Freed, Diena's lawyer seem to go back as far as Thread 16.


ETA: I don't know if this link will work but I searched for Freed ...
http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2613784

see page 2 for the Thread 16 entries.

houndstooth is this what you are looking for?? Or did you want some more info. I left for a while and just came back and saw your post to me.

 

[Noway]

I don't know if houndstooth needs more info but I do!

I read through most of the posts that talk about DT's lawyer and cannot find exactly what you were talking about ...

 

[SharetheLight]

As Ive been researching the RSO's.. its seems like they know how to manipulate the system very well. I look at one in particular that everyone has pretty much written off. His was a romeo and juliet type of thing from long ago. But he doesnt register, or goes where he knows records are "backlogged" for at least a yr we know of. I could feel the "good ole boy" atmosphere of the place and the person i spoke with, said hes been checked and told me of his original offense and I thought.. not him then. Like they do.

But what if he is smart enough to be manipulating us all? What if he knows that label makes LE discard him as a POI? He travels all around without registering and sometimes he gets caught.. Ive tried to research missing kids when he gets caught.. that is usually how they are caught not registering in FL, because a kid nearby is missing. (ugh, did that make sense?) He looks eerily like the sketch of the perp in shannon paulk. What if LE there dismisses him too, because of his original offense? Thinking out loud.... It still bothers me that is name is on Police Report...and the mole under his eye..

I was the one who speculated with what SO he was charged with, and the age he was when he married and the age of his wife, and the fact that they were only married 10 months on the books and produced a child, that maybe it was all tied together. And that he was off my radar.

After that, Sad, you said TX LE confirmed that all his charges since the original charge all stemmed back to the original charge. Like failing to register etc. that there were no new sex offense charges.
Did I misunderstand this?

When I found out his marriage info, charges etc. i put him on my back burner, when you said LE said all charges stem from first, I put him out of my brain. Do I need to bring him back?

I totally agree that the pic is a ringer of the sketch for Shannon's case.

 

[SharetheLight]

I don't know if houndstooth needs more info but I do!

I read through most of the posts that talk about DT's lawyer and cannot find exactly what you were talking about ...

can you direct me to what page or post in 23 you guys are talking about?
then hopefully I can help you figure out what I was talking about or thinking.

 

[SharetheLight]

can you direct me to what page or post in 23 you guys are talking about?
then hopefully I can help you figure out what I was talking about or thinking.

post 22??

I thought someone provided the link, prior to this post, where the sheriff asked Freed to help DT out. I'll have to go back and look to see where it was.

 

[sadnpod]

I was the one who speculated with what SO he was charged with, and the age he was when he married and the age of his wife, and the fact that they were only married 10 months on the books and produced a child, that maybe it was all tied together. And that he was off my radar.

After that, Sad, you said TX LE confirmed that all his charges since the original charge all stemmed back to the original charge. Like failing to register etc. that there were no new sex offense charges.
Did I misunderstand this?

When I found out his marriage info, charges etc. i put him on my back burner, when you said LE said all charges stem from first, I put him out of my brain. Do I need to bring him back?

I totally agree that the sketch is a ringer for Shannon's case.

You have it all right share.. there are no new sex offense charges. IDK if you need to bring him back, I was just thinking out loud how crafty he seems and how the LE where he is seemed to kinda laugh him off as nothin but poor man chased all his life for doin something stupid when he was young.

But he wanders, and close to victims, AL is on his way to TX, or from TX, hes in and out of FL when he is suppose to be in texas. Warrants yes, but no one wants to extradite him, cause to everyone he is just "one of those", and maybe he is. It still doesnt sit well is all.

 

[Noway]

Share, I'll try to find the one Houndstooth was talking about. NEVERMIND: see you found it

My understanding was that the Sheriff had recommended Diena get a lawyer, not that she get this lawyer (Freed).

But from what Houndstooth posted, I think you must have commented in some capacity that the Sheriff had recommended Freed, not just get a lawyer.

I vaguely remember something being mentioned about the sheriff and "watch over this family" meaning the Thompsons.

After seeing Diena at a loss on what she could say and what she could call the scum who murdered her daughter, I was glad that she had some guidance.

I'm looking in my own posts too because I have an easier time remembering what I said rather than what someone else said and who it was that said it!

 

[Lipin One]

I think this was MommaD not wanting to subject Kyle to this. If his only connection to this case is witness and his last name isn't public, she did not want to be the one to do so.

I understand and respect MommaD's decision to keep it discreet.

Just that some people here think there is a connection, more than just being a witness, being the "last person to see Somer" and all.

I just find it strange that being the last person to see her, nobody else in the media has mentioned him, other than that one reporter someone mentioned here.

 

[Noway]

I think LE is protecting their witnesses.

If Kyle the construction worker had any link whatsoever to Somer's murder (or LE thought he did) I don't think they would be as considerate of his privacy. JMO

 

[houndstooth]

houndstooth is this what you are looking for?? Or did you want some more info. I left for a while and just came back and saw your post to me.

Hey!!

Yeas, I guess I does still need help. I gotta tell ya, going back and rereading the stuff on Thread #16, girl you are Awesome!! The way you lasered in on certain statements just blew me away. And Noway, how you are able to pinpoint this stuff is simply amazing.

That said.....I still can't find a reference to why?, Freed. I remembered reading posts a few weeks back now, I guess, where he was suggested or recommended to her by the sheriff. Reason being, those are very similar to words used in another area I was looking into coincidentally enough, earlier today. TIA