FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

[camcneishg]

I am thinking the dumpster at OPAA, and here is why again.....command center was set up at the Jr. High on Monday evening...at this time the dumpster at OPAA was probably checked, nothing found....on Tuesday morning, the command center was moved to OPAA, after the dumpster was already checked the night before....it was crazy there....soooo many people, everywhere.....I am thinking that the perp could have placed her body in that dumpster after it was checked on Monday evening, even in the wee hours while all was out searching....maybe someone who lived close enough to see what was going on at all times there.....IDK.....but I do know that the dumpster at OPAA was not dumped until Wed morning....she could have even been placed in there sometime on tues.....and I find it odd that the restrooms there were searched again when doing the burnt home, and something removed from it....after hundreds of people from the search used it.....some say that this dumpster was too out in the open.....what better place, than where it is least expected.....kwim

 

[ChickenPants]

"Somer was last seen.....(several reports conflicted)" "...lost sight of her...." (ditto) "In broad daylight...." "crowded area", etc., etc.

A RSO would not take this much of a chance, IMO, unless that RSO definitely knew this little girl had a long history of running off....

An angry person who was tired of dealing with her and her feisty behaviors and probably had specific knowledge of her problems with this/these kid(s) who were picking on her at school...who knew that she was ripe to take off, who heard her and sister squabbling like siblings do about things at school...is there waiting and says "get over here, you're in big trouble" (could he have been by those propane tanks"? He may have been walking along the route or watching in his car for her to take off, and with his big, strong legs was able to catch up with her (one report said Abby tried to chase her but could not keep up), he got her out of sight and did it. SOMEHOW he was already prepared to dispose of her. Did he perhaps tell her they were going back to the school and then take her somewhere and kill her and put her in that dumpster? Only he knows. I know it is someone she knows and went with willingly. Too many family dynamics point to it for it to have been a random crime. Not trying to say I am a know it all. I just think it's more likely...

 

[Spyglass]

I was just checking here to make sure that the man who was shot by LE (in his small truck) in the Loretto Road/Hood Landing Road area early this morning is not the burned home worker earlier sleuthed here. NO REASON whatsoever to make any connection other than the address.

 

[ChickenPants]

Did CPC know and approve of DT's relationship with PC? Or did it anger and frustrate him?

Was PC working with DT and possibly Somer with the Indigo therapy? Did he want more? Was there more? Was there anything Somer knew/saw/heard that she threatened to tell her dad? Could CPC or SP have done something with or to SOmer that they knew she might slip up and tell? Is is true that Somer called her dad and at some point wanted to move in with him? If so, after 2 years of him not being involved in her life, why would she do that? Did this anger someone even further?

On one report (Jax4 I think) I read that Somer's Dad talked to DT on the phone before she was found and "encouraged her to stay positive"...and after this, all of the bitterness at the funeral and the obit with him excised, etc. Strange stuff.

This would all be circumstatial evidence in a court. Hard evidence tying the perp to the murder is still needed. But after they have the hard evidence, at what point will LE arrest this person? It's not unheard of for cops to wait until they have a tight case. Meanwhile, IMO there is no danger to the public from Somer's murderer. He thinks he got away with it and is putting on a socially-acceptable face and going on with his life. It's DT who will probably crack at some point.

 

[pingpong]

Trying to keep it simple in my simple mind, it seems fairly obvious to me that someone gave them a tip. Whether the tip was credible or not, it made a light bulb go off which illuminated the way and they were very very lucky to find her, patting themselves on the back. Strange, though, how the sheriff said once on TV that there was a particular officer who suggested it, and later said it was "standard procedure"...but I always put that down to the brotherhood where it is probably not politically correct to give one officer too much credit. From what I know of cops, they try to be humble and give credit to their fellow officers. Could be wrong on this one, could be wrong altogether. ONE TINY THING, folks, could break the case and so we wait...

BBM
I recall reading somewhere that CART (child abduction response team) was started in Sarasota in response to the Carlie Brucia abduction. Maybe LE and CART are working on procedures and responses to the press.

 

[Spyglass]

I doubt this is connected to the construction guy who worked for his brother's company (located in same area), but here is story.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...kill_suspect_who_backed_into_patrol_car_twice

 

[4mer.naybor]

oh geez....im all alone in here again.....later tater!

 

[human]

4mer naybor-do you think that you can call your mutual friend and see what boyfriend it is who is the abuser? thanks

 

[tarabull]

G'morning one and all....

There's in interesting comment posted UNDER a report about Somer at Jacksonville.com - I've seen it more than once. It's ALWAYS quoted by this individual "treehugger" - whenever I see it - it makes me think.

I SEE it's also noted under the story Spyglass posted (thanks spy!) about a man being shot on Hood Landing Road overnight.

IMO "food for thought":

"...an imperfect plan implemented immediately and violently will always succeed better than a perfect plan." General George S. Patton

 

[tarabull]

you guys...tomorrow is a hearing 9:00am ....its in the court docs online.....i am wondering if this is for custody

I SEE there are no updates about today's proceedings yet....however i have a question > I SEE DB's name but not understanding - maybe someone else can explain - is she being called as a witness??

 

[4mer.naybor]

4mer naybor-do you think that you can call your mutual friend and see what boyfriend it is who is the abuser? thanks

we've already talked about it, but can't figure out who the boyfriend was at the time.

Both the common friend and I have tried to reach out to DT many times since the initial missing person report, to no avail. DT won't return our calls, hasn't responded to the cards, flowers, nothing.

Its pretty odd, seems like shes someone I totally don't recognize anymore.

 

[4mer.naybor]

I SEE there are no updates about today's proceedings yet....however i have a question > I SEE DB's name but not understanding - maybe someone else can explain - is she being called as a witness??

I think she got a supoena, but I'm not sure why.

 

[human]

I think she got a supoena, but I'm not sure why.

Who's DB? Any hints that the hint challenged can figure out? Is itr someone with WLK? But I still don't know who DB is.

 

[ccane]

Who's DB? Any hints that the hint challenged can figure out? Is itr someone with WLK? But I still don't know who DB is.

Maybe DT mom asking for temp custody

 

[tarabull]

sorry human...i should have just said DT's mom instead of DB.

sooooo wonder who's calling her as a witness? ST or DT????

hmmmmmmmm. maybe sad will shed some light when she returns.

 

[New1]

G'morning one and all....

There's in interesting comment posted UNDER a report about Somer at Jacksonville.com - I've seen it more than once. It's ALWAYS quoted by this individual "treehugger" - whenever I see it - it makes me think.

I SEE it's also noted under the story Spyglass posted (thanks spy!) about a man being shot on Hood Landing Road overnight.

IMO "food for thought":

"...an imperfect plan implemented immediately and violently will always succeed better than a perfect plan." General George S. Patton

What is the name of the article about Somer where this comment is? I couldn't find it.

 

[human]

G'morning one and all....

There's in interesting comment posted UNDER a report about Somer at Jacksonville.com - I've seen it more than once. It's ALWAYS quoted by this individual "treehugger" - whenever I see it - it makes me think.

I SEE it's also noted under the story Spyglass posted (thanks spy!) about a man being shot on Hood Landing Road overnight.

IMO "food for thought":

"...an imperfect plan implemented immediately and violently will always succeed better than a perfect plan." General George S. Patton

So what do you think? Someone giving a clue, or just a commentary?

 

[human]

What is the name of the article about Somer where this comment is? I couldn't find it.

Google Jacksonville.com, Somer and tree hugger. It should come up. Back to work for me.

 

[Noway]

Maybe it was someone who didn't know the ins and outs of trash disposal in Orange Park? Who didn't know that covering her with something that shouldn't have been picked up in the normal trash would stand out.

Do people in Florida always follow the rules of garbage disposal?

Because I'm thinking that if you are disposing of a body ... you pretty much don't care whether you're breaking a law by throwing construction waste in there too.

I was waiting for YOU to say that. The point is that if when she was found, in a dumpster, not at the dump, there were construction debris covering over her for some reason, it would stand out. It would easy to track, because it would MOSTLY have the usual refuse in it. I don't know what was partially covering her when they looked in that dumpster, but someone had tried to camoflage it in some way, I would think.

 

[tarabull]

Maybe DT mom asking for temp custody

I wonder how DT would feel about that....

Does anyone recall the video news report from early on (tuesday the 20th i believe) that said DT was waiting for her main figure of support to arrive home today - her father was out of town when Somer vanished was due back this day and DT was looking forward to his arrival....(something to that affect - don't quote me but that was the just of it.)

At that time I saw it, I asked myself "was that just a slap in DT's mom's face???? or am I reading too much into it....."

I decided I was likely reading too much into it, but now that I think of it again, has anyone even seen DT's mom consoling her daughter (or vise versa) - a hug even or an arm around one another - a touch, hand on arm/hand or anything? and certainly NOT facing the camera's FIRMLY side by side....more like distance between them but present together nonetheless.