FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

[pinamia]

Please pray for this little boy missing in NY (my area).

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091214/NEWS/912149976

 

[sadnpod]

I think one of the worst things in life is regret. Especially the regret we all feel when someone we loves dies, even by natural causes. The regret involved in this situation I cannot fathom. Every person I have lost, no matter how sure I was that I tried to protect them, care for them, ensured they knew how important they were to me or how loved.. there is regret for what I did not do.
No matter how protected we think our families are.. the real truth is that we can all be victims of violent crime even with more than due dilligence.
This world is ugly at times, bad things happen to good, moral, and kind people. Making yourself and those you love less of a target does help, but not one of us knows this could not happen to us or our loved ones.

 

[ccane]

For the record, I don't believe my post referenced a date. I believe it was a time period - no specific date. I think Noway is correct.... maybe I need sleep and that is the problem.

I have been looking and looking for somthing posted about this and can't find it. I have read almost every thread in this case. Can you point me in the correct direction or time frame you seen this posted.

 

[ccane]

Also I was thinking again about the police report
1.. the girl who got in the fight and the police interviewed them are not on the report?
2.. TJ who is on the report works at the car wash as some kind of sanitation engineer ?

Why when somer went missing on the earlier video's was DT outside being talked to
why not in the house?
Why so many police if she may have just been at a friends house?
If my kid Did not home from school and it's two hours and I tell the police.. how long do they wait to see if they show up or call before sending out swat and police,choppers everyone to look? what is the norm.. I could see one or two cops and make some calls to friends, ex husband ..

 

[what about this?]

Many people cross the street without looking. Not all get run over so we should all stop looking before we cross. After all, only some get hit.

We should all be very careful and supervise our kids.

I agree, I agree! But, some of this is specific to Somer and her life, don't you think?

We all know right or wrong behaviors, safe and unsafe - but this little girl, Somer, lost her life, and I prefer not to think of her as a statistic because of a flighty mother.

Something happened to Somer, and we want to know what -- We know the circumstances -- WHO did this? There were lots of problems, sure. What happened?

I applaud you guys so much -- no news, and you still keep going. Keep going. Somer's worth it.

 

[houndstooth]

Also I was thinking again about the police report
1.. the girl who got in the fight and the police interviewed them are not on the report?
2.. TJ who is on the report works at the car wash as some kind of sanitation engineer ?

Why when somer went missing on the earlier video's was DT outside being talked to
why not in the house?
Why so many police if she may have just been at a friends house?
If my kid Did not home from school and it's two hours and I tell the police.. how long do they wait to see if they show up or call before sending out swat and police,choppers everyone to look? what is the norm.. I could is one or two cops and make some calls to friends, ex husband ..

I have wondered that me own self. All I can ever come up with is that when preliminary investigations started, some things must have set off alarm bells right off the bat. You have to admit, if we found the whole leaving work and going straight to the park (if true), and not going home or calling 911, but leaving it up to the chance meeting with a passing cop, a little odd. They probably thought that odd too. And next thing you know, 1+2 ain't adding up to 3.
We don't know what they know. But, something as simple as a call to her job or CPC job or SP job may have started the ball rolling that something bad had happened. Or checking their phones, or all the little nuances that LE would note. Demeanor, inconsistant statements. Lots of stuff. I don't think LE ever serioulsy were thinking a ped/SO . JMO.

 

[what about this?]

And just one more thing -

the little boy missing in Newbourg tonight - the boyfriend actually fractured an infant's skull - out of jail? Huh? Then little Marc's hands were burned . . . and HE is left in charge. The mother is defending this guy! Wonder about DT and CPC still.

 

[ccane]

I traded in my stilettos for a pair a tennis shoes.. double knot so they dont go flying too

 

[sadnpod]

I traded in my stilettos for a pair a tennis shoes.. double knot so they dont go flying too

I meant to tell you, I like your new shoes....

 

[houndstooth]

Alrighty then. Set me straight on why SP was there? He just was there to tell a little "white lie" to LE. When did it become evident that a little white lie was going to be needed? I am unclear on this. TIA

 

[Noway]

I have been looking and looking for somthing posted about this and can't find it. I have read almost every thread in this case. Can you point me in the correct direction or time frame you seen this posted.

All I can remember is a post by me saying that Diena did not seem to have met the legal definition of negligence by letting the kids walk home.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showth...light=legal+definition+negligence#post4510067

In Thread 25.

I think the mention of Child Services was either before this or after. I knew it didn't apply to what I thought she wasn't negligent of (letting kids walk home).

ETA: Found post by me by searching all posts by NoWay in threads with Found Deceased for legal AND definition AND negligence in the Missing/Located Forum Discussion and had results returned as posts, not thread.

 

[ccane]

All I can remember is a post by me saying that Diena did not seem to have met the legal definition of negligence by letting the kids walk home.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showth...light=legal+definition+negligence#post4510067

In Thread 25.

I think the mention of Child Services was either before this or after. I knew it didn't apply to what I thought she wasn't negligent of (letting kids walk home).

Understood.. but chee said last year? Doesn't she has a daughter that is a friend of a friend? Maybe the date came from them and not the board? I dont know

 

[Noway]

And it could have been deleted by the member who posted it or mods ...

Usually someone out there shares my hallucination.

I ignored the post because it didn't have anything to do with what I was talking about (letting kids walk) ... which makes me think it was after.

I don't know if a specific date was mentioned but that Diena was negligent for letting her kids wander the neighborhood (and I didn't have facts that she did let them do this which is why I thought this was a theory.)

ETA: Still don't have facts that she did so it is still a theory to me. (Just clarifying.)

 

[human]

ccane , I like your shoes as well. I liked the other ones as well.

I have a HUGE favor to ask of a local. On the Olten case, the media did have a gag order. LE asked them and they agreed not to say anything until after the juvenile perp was charged. This came out AFTER the fact.

Is there any local who could call and ask if there is a gag order on Somer's case as NOTHING has been written for a long time?

 

[Noway]

The only place I follow this case is here. Maybe possible that I read it in comments of article but I try to steer away from those in general because they make me dizzy.

 

[ccane]

And the landfill is another mystery to me also. If they found the body wed then why where the news crews not all over this? This was big big news.. where were all the traffic news choppers flying to get a video for the 6 or 10 oclock news
It's like a no fly zone.. until thursday then I few clips
How about 9 cop cars following the 9 trucks for 45mins to stateline.. again no news clips
Videos chopped and edited when DT does an interview..OPAA black out and the one in which sshe said "the neighbors watch out for them" the interviewer asked "so you don't have a regular sitter watch the kids" and she said " no "

 

[Noway]

Alrighty then. Set me straight on why SP was there? He just was there to tell a little "white lie" to LE. When did it become evident that a little white lie was going to be needed? I am unclear on this. TIA

I disagree that he was there in order to provide a white lie to LE. Her kids being home alone was not a crime according to Florida law as found online. Florida does not have an age at which children are old enough to be left alone. So unless there was an incident (which I am trying to find) there would be no need for any white lie.

 

[Noway]

And the landfill is another mystery to me also. If they found the body wed then why where the news crews not all over this? This was big big news.. where were all the traffic news choppers flying to get a video for the 6 or 10 oclock news
It's like a no fly zone.. until thursday then I few clips
How about 9 cop cars following the 9 trucks for 45mins to stateline.. again no news clips
Videos chopped and edited when DT does an interview..OPAA black out and the one in which sshe said "the neighbors watch out for them" the interviewer asked "so you don't have a regular sitter watch the kids" and she said " no "

It's possible that LE was trying to keep the tabloids of selling sensational pictures of Somer and they kept the copters away?

 

[txsvicki]

Chee, I was just going to ask how many here had alarm systems (but instruct everyone not to answer) ... and wonder whether anyone here would blame someone for their child being abducted from their home because they did not have an alarm system.

I think not. I hope not.

I wouldn't blame others if they didn't have alarm systems of some kind, but would regret they didn't think of it. I'd blame myself though. I've got some alarms and a very protective dog that sleeps inside and hears everything.

 

[Noway]

Maybe LE thought nothing would come of following the garbage trucks and searching them, and didn't want to pull a Geraldo Rivera (lots of cameras and an empty vault)?

OR

They had a tip. And a good one. And they didn't want their suspect (whoever he would turn out to be) to know what they were doing?

I just don't know.