FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

[ChickenPants]

http://www.wesh.com/video/21451377/index.html
Somer's Killer May Have Cuts on Upper Body
Summary of what to look for as far as behavior exhibited by Somer's killer. (no specific link to video available but empty space to right of video is where it sometimes is; sometimes just below video)

At link, you can search for all videos with Somer Thompson, older than 30 days. Once you have those, you can sort by relevance or date (option on right).

I have always felt that the list Sheriff read from was just a standard profile of a perpetrator of this kind of crime. He read it at a place in the investigation when he wanted people to be on the lookout for a certain profile type which may include some, or many, but not necessarily all of the description. I never thought it was specific to Somer's murder, just a general protocol. If Somer had been grabbed suddenly from behind and smothered, she would not have been able to, for example, scratch or bite her killer. In fact, if she had put up a fight, I would think there would be evidence of struggle and someone would have heard something. MOO, thanks.

 

[trigger]

When the sheriff said look for someone with cuts or bruses to the face, hand etc and a car hidden or sold is it possible this was a car accident and the person panicked.

Hmmm. I was thinking a knife was used. Notice they never said scratches though.

 

[human]

In your picture of the men's room ceiling... Is that a camera on the ceiling? I assume it's some sort of sensor, but doesn't hurt to make sure.

A camera would make sense. What else could LE possibly go into the bathroom for and come out a few minutes later without hunkering down and scouring it for clues?

I like the idea of the camera and going in and removing the tape. Everything is under video surveillence and it seems like the bathroom would be a good spot for that.

I have to tell you a gross story. I know of a child that ate on one of those cakes they found in the men's bathroom. For real. Ugh. Maybe someone was hunkering for a cake. Had to say it.

 

[ChickenPants]

Then again, the dumpster could have been smaller (like the secluded one in the link above from Sadnpod) and if she was put in a garbage bag, someone dumping construction debris might not think anything of it. And if you're dumping trash (construction debris) in a dumpster that is not yours, you're not stopping to look at the contents of the dumpster.

But to carry or lift Somer would have been hard, I agree with that. Maybe more than one person? (I don't think so but anything is possible.)

Just wondering if the construction debris would have been put in first, then Somer. When she was dumped from the truck, she would be first, and the debris on top. I guess they have to reverse order everything?

Picture in your mind the scene in Gone With The Wind when Rhett Butler in his alcohol-feuled anger grabs Scarlett, picks her up and runs up the stairs with her. Clark Gable had to do that several times to get a take that would print...now imagine a big strong guy hefting a little 65 lb. girl. With those in mind, I don't think it would be too hard to dump her, especially if the guy is pumped up on adrenaline after having killed her. The rest depends on whether she was in a bag or not, and it has been said that if she was in a bag, she wouldn't be seen (covering or not overhead) and that maybe the bag would deteriorate, rip whatever during the transport process from dumpster to landfill. Again, I just can't see people who do this job routinely being connected to what they are hauling or moving around. A lot of people have been killed, put in the trash and never found.

 

[LLLindsayy]

A camera would make sense. What else could LE possibly go into the bathroom for and come out a few minutes later without hunkering down and scouring it for clues?

I like the idea of the camera and going in and removing the tape. Everything is under video surveillence and it seems like the bathroom would be a good spot for that.

I have to tell you a gross story. I know of a child that ate on one of those cakes they found in the men's bathroom. For real. Ugh. Maybe someone was hunkering for a cake. Had to say it.

I didn't think of it in that sense, but that's a good point. I think it's kinda creepy to have a camera in a bathroom, but at the same time, if they have it just pointing towards the door or sinks, I suppose it wouldn't be much of an issue. Not any more so than a camera in any other public place if it's not pointing at the stalls.

 

[pinamia]

If only media and LE would be forth coming. So far all we know is the RSO have been ruled out, Somer liked to run off after school, she was killed on October 19 or thereabout, and discarded in the trash/dumpster.

 

[ccane]

Hi everyone.. I hope this works.. I will add videos later tonight, so this is the pics I took, I hope they make sense... I am not even an amateur photographer, so please remember that, especially the videos! If you see something that you want me to zoom on, let me know and I will add it. Now Im gonna go catch up... its been a he** of a day! If the pic is not dated, it was taken on 11/19. http://s977.photobucket.com/albums/ae252/snoopyone2009/?start=40

Why is the album labeled snoopyone?:waitasec:

 

[LLLindsayy]

Why is the album labeled snoopyone?:waitasec:

It's a username.

Equivalent to your posts being labeled ccane.

 

[Cheewawa007]

It's a username.

Equivalent to your posts being labeled ccane.

That name sounds so familiar for some reason......:waitasec:

I'm goin' to the garage for a smoke - hopefully when I return and refresh, someone will correct me...........

 

[sadnpod]

Just some of my thoughts today. Yesterday and today have been hard days. I feel her with me so much when I am by that irrigation ditch. For some I can see how it would be scary, but to a kid left to wander, this place would have had massive appeal to me. Its pretty secluded, and there are turtles! Did anyone notice? There is a dumpster at an RSO's house. But I think LE would have this person if thats where she was found. The dumpster locations are endless in that area, much less from there to GCS, and I looked today at those., WLK would have plenty of places. I still dont discount him.

I too am glad to see you back mommaD.... thank you chic for sharing... all of you for sharing.

I am so very sad for somer, st, at, ac.. her tiny grave is heartbreaking.

I havent had time to catch up..only at page 10, but i have to spend time with my mother.. thank god. She will be home from work soon.. so til then..

I believe with all my heart that SP is a good friend to DT. I believe she said he was babysitting that day because she didnt want LE to know the kids were coming home alone. I have reasons to believe this based on facts. I have been warned by some much smarter than me that I cannot share everything with you my friends. But I do ask that you trust me. I will not lie. But I also know each word is from my perspective and I trust all of you to take it as such. Believe me or not, but please know that my heart just wants to see justice for somer, and for every child to be safe, loved, cared for and given the attention they need. We are all on the same side in this, whether we agree or disagree.. I also believe that..

 

[ChickenPants]

I don't know. I am totally confused. From the beginning, I felt something was not right with DT. Then I read the police report, and the SP situation and saw CPC MySpace and heard how ST was treated at the funeral and it all just added up more and more...

We all come here trying to be fair and deal with facts. We all have different thought processes, areas stronger, weaker. We also bring our own selves and experiences in. I am trying and trying not to be a DT basher or a DT supporter or a DT anything. I have worked around a lot of people who remind me of her. I have serious issues with the lack of cohesiveness in the lives of these young kids. I don't get how she fell off the radar after fund raisers and attorney. I don't understand the discrepancies. I bring to the table a sincere desire to see closure. I bring my own personal experiences which include being around a lot of human suffering and a necessary ability to discern non-verbal communication and body language, etc.

While we are being honest, I don't like the amount of men these kids have been around and I don't like the whole go get 'em drive everyone off the road here we come on our Harleys thing. I don't like mom being in a live-in relationship with one man and having "lunch" with another man whose current relationship with her (and Somer) is questionable. I don't like a grieving mom on stage wearing a bandana and fake tatoo and singing what should be her and Somer's special song to the masses. Somehow that makes Somer's song less special to me. I don't like people going to memorial services and vigils and holding back grinning into the camera to say "hi mom" because they want to be where the action is. I don't like people herding like cattle and stomping on evidence. I don't like the secretiveness of the LE or the politics we will probably never know about.

I am not a spy or a lurker or a flamer or any of those other things there are words for, I just care. If I post too much, or seem to others like I have all of the answers, I am sorry. I have theories but no answers.

 

[sadnpod]

sounds like I have heard that name also at one time here. hmmmm let me think lol :waitasec:

I was hoping to get a chuckle mommaD... I think we all need one occasionally..

 

[hoppyfrog]

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[Noway]

Has anyone considered that construction debris was put with Somer to send LE in the wrong direction.

 

[txsvicki]

I don't know. I am totally confused. From the beginning, I felt something was not right with DT. Then I read the police report, and the SP situation and saw CPC MySpace and heard how ST was treated at the funeral and it all just added up more and more...

We all come here trying to be fair and deal with facts. We all have different thought processes, areas stronger, weaker. We also bring our own selves and experiences in. I am trying and trying not to be a DT basher or a DT supporter or a DT anything. I have worked around a lot of people who remind me of her. I have serious issues with the lack of cohesiveness in the lives of these young kids. I don't get how she fell off the radar after fund raisers and attorney. I don't understand the discrepancies. I bring to the table a sincere desire to see closure. I bring my own personal experiences which include being around a lot of human suffering and a necessary ability to discern non-verbal communication and body language, etc.

While we are being honest, I don't like the amount of men these kids have been around and I don't like the whole go get 'em drive everyone off the road here we come on our Harleys thing. I don't like mom being in a live-in relationship with one man and having "lunch" with another man whose current relationship with her (and Somer) is questionable. I don't like a grieving mom on stage wearing a bandana and fake tatoo and singing what should be her and Somer's special song to the masses. Somehow that makes Somer's song less special to me. I don't like people going to memorial services and vigils and holding back grinning into the camera to say "hi mom" because they want to be where the action is. I don't like people herding like cattle and stomping on evidence. I don't like the secretiveness of the LE or the politics we will probably never know about.

I am not a spy or a lurker or a flamer or any of those other things there are words for, I just care. If I post too much, or seem to others like I have all of the answers, I am sorry. I have theories but no answers.

I also don't understand the need for "themes" when such a heinous horrible murder involving a tiny child happens. I'm not a poems and sentimental type at all, so I think the biker theme and the whole color purple thing is ridiculous. I expect serious mourning, hell fire preaching at the funeral, and people dressed for church. I guess there's some reason that people are advised to do these things (probably by some woman) but I would not. To me, themes and everyone wearing colors are for parties, showers, and celebrations.

 

[Noway]

I was also thinking that carrying a live/conscious person is much different than carrying a dead/unconscious (drugged?) one ...

 

[sadnpod]

I also don't understand the need for "themes" when such a heinous horrible murder involving a tiny child happens. I'm not a poems and sentimental type at all, so I think the biker theme and the whole color purple thing is ridiculous. I expect serious mourning, hell fire preaching at the funeral, and people dressed for church. I guess there's some reason that people are advised to do these things (probably by some woman) but I would not. To me, themes and everyone wearing colors are for parties, showers, and celebrations.

I felt like the only person not dressed in purple. It just didnt seem right to me. But the yard sale sign with purple balloon, (just to get attention, it wasnt for somer) made me sick. Now purple represents the color of money to me. And sadness.

 

[New1]

For clarification, I do not know that Diena told her friend (who is my friend's daughter). My friend said that her (my friend) daughter told her (my friend) that Somer's body was covered in broken glass and construction debris.

You know, this rumor could have some validity when I think about seeing DT on TV taking about a missing piece of glass. Does anyone else remember this....it was a strange thing to say IMO, sort of like substituting the word "glass" for "puzzle." Like most people would say "a missing piece of puzzle", instead DT said " a missing piece of GLASS".

 

[human]

Has anyone considered that construction debris was put with Somer to send LE in the wrong direction.

Could be, but why choose construction debris? Why not lawn clippings or what? I can't think. Who would think to have the Gano house be the focus? Did the killer know that was the last place she was seen? How could he spy on her like that? Where would he be?

I do not think that the killer thought that she would be found. I am thinking that he put her in a dumpster and put bags or whatever on top.

I still have some questions. I have read that residential was picked up on Tuesday and dumpsters on Wednesday. Then I have read the opposite. Just to be clear, those are NOT the roll off dumpsters like at Gano. Those are dumpsters like at apts or the 1,000,000 other dumpsters they seem to have in OP.

LE knew right away that she was a homicide. There were some ugly ideas given like bound and that type of thing. But it also could be because she was in a garbage bag.

I honestly don't think she was in residential. When I was in college, we would sell our books back. The guy who bought then had a stack of $1.00 bills, and every time he could pick the correct amount by feel without counting.

I think when the garbage man hefts the can, he knows something is not right. He may question the perp. Too big of a risk. Or the bag could break. And one can never tell how much garbage is in a residential can. He can't be driving around checking out for ones that are empty.

I couldn't see the dumpster until posters pointed out how the perp could cover her up.

Major duh!!!!!

 

[sadnpod]

He must not have been at the Gano street address if on October 19, when LE went to find him, he was "absconded" ... maybe that's where my hallucination came from. Because he would have been within the 3 mile radius first checked ... which was Monday IIRC. I suppose there would be witnesses as to when he left that address. Maybe something in court records.

Not fact. Just theory.

DR's funeral was fri wasnt it? In my mind her daughter gave him til monday to get out and from DLRC right on miller, ive seen it so clearly. But IDK anymore. Her daugher lives there now with her family. They had a yard sale that I went to and it creeped me out, and I really felt like a sn oops. I think LE searched the house when it was empty and I think it was emtpy til monday.

but I dont know anything, as usual