FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

[camcneishg]

ok, from reading some...the town of OP has their own trash service....could not find out if it was "Advanced Disposal", or not.....out side of the town of OP, uses Advanced Disposal....wonder what the town uses??? I can make a few calls tomorrow and try to find out.....the pics of the trucks that I posted, are two diff trucks I think.....diff one for dumpsters....I think.....

 

[Noway]

I think he was there, but it was a coincidence, from the lunch meeting, I dont think the kids knew he was there and that dt came up with babysitting to cover no one usually at home.

I thought they said there was "typically an adult there to meet them" because if Somer was found, things would likely go back the way they were ... and they didn't want to announce to the public and the RSO-filled neighborhood that these kids were home alone from 3-5 ... more to protect the kids.

 

[Noway]

if you mean business dumpsters.. that size dumpster yes,,, I have the same hallucination as you again noway!

LOL get out of my head!

I did a search of the threads for
garbage
trash
waste

http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2649972

or http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2650027

It only gave me the last 500 (and for threads other than Somer T.) but I know we talked about it from October 21 on.

Okay ... tweaked search and went from other direction (this will be the first threads of Somer case starting on page 8)
http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2649982&pp=25&page=8

 

[camcneishg]

I thought DT said that the neighborhood kept an eye on the kids.....

 

[New1]

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With this in mind ... Somer was put in trash in Zone 2 IF IF IF no trash from Wednesday had yet been brought to Chesser.

Now I'm confused too.....imagine that! If Somer was put in trash from Zone 2 and that trash was picked up on Tuesday, what about DT's neighbor's statement that the trash had already been taken, " take that however you want to" or something like that - wasn't that statement made on Tuesday?
Was Tuesday garbage pick not suppose to be in Zone 3 where DT lives? Was it done a day early, or does Zone 2 and 3 both get picked up on Tuesday?

 

[camcneishg]

LOL get out of my head!

I did a search of the threads for
garbage
trash
waste

http://websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2649972

It only gave me the last 500 (and for threads other than Somer T.) but I know we talked about it from October 21 on.

was it ever settled?? what did you come up with?? LOL

 

[LLLindsayy]

I don't think it's legal to have cameras in bathrooms. So I am going with the fire sensor.

ETA could be way wrong on that though (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/usworld/news-article.aspx?storyid=48211)

I think they are legal as long as they aren't pointed at sensitive areas. I'm pretty sure I've seen some in bathrooms myself. I think they could be pointed at the sinks or the door and be just as legal as a camera in a store... they are public restrooms after all.

 

[camcneishg]

Now I'm confused too.....imagine that! If Somer was put in trash from Zone 2 and that trash was picked up on Tuesday, what about DT's neighbor's statement that the trash had already been taken, " take that however you want to" or something like that - wasn't that statement made on Tuesday?
Was Tuesday garbage pick not suppose to be in Zone 3 where DT lives? Was it done a day early, or does Zone 2 and 3 both get picked up on Tuesday?

I couldn't get the zone map to come up visible enough for me to tell where the zones are.....but I know that the "town" of OP starts like less than a block away from DT's house....DT's house is NOT in the "town" limits, but the Gano home is....

 

[sadnpod]

Please forgive me if my photobucket name was not funny to everyone. I wish I could change it, but i would have to start all over again and whats the point.

I am ready to follow trash trucks around now, but then I might be accused of stalking trash trucks. That dumpster in the parking lot by hooters, hmmmm. But the one at
OPJH makes sense cause they moved there. There are as many possible dumpsters as there are perps. Its mind boggeling.

 

[camcneishg]

Wed morning Sad.....go follow that one from the ball park, it will prob go straight up Gano to OPJH.......

 

[camcneishg]

the Green cove springs site says that the town of OP has their own trash service....I am not sure what that means....outside the town...like me...we pay for it on our prop. taxes....they must do it diff in the town...

 

[bkcrt]

Picture in your mind the scene in Gone With The Wind when Rhett Butler in his alcohol-feuled anger grabs Scarlett, picks her up and runs up the stairs with her. Clark Gable had to do that several times to get a take that would print...now imagine a big strong guy hefting a little 65 lb. girl. With those in mind, I don't think it would be too hard to dump her, especially if the guy is pumped up on adrenaline after having killed her. The rest depends on whether she was in a bag or not, and it has been said that if she was in a bag, she wouldn't be seen (covering or not overhead) and that maybe the bag would deteriorate, rip whatever during the transport process from dumpster to landfill. Again, I just can't see people who do this job routinely being connected to what they are hauling or moving around. A lot of people have been killed, put in the trash and never found.

I have a teenage son. I weigh 140...He regularly lifts me as a joke....and yes, he can lift me over his head. He's only 5'10" but IS strong. I don't see that it would be very difficult for a teen to lift and throw a 65lb child in a dumpster.

 

[Noway]

I'm in the garbage pit now.

I'll let you know what I find.

ETA
For those that can't wait until page 20.

Momtective :blowkiss: found that the COMMERCIAL dumpsters and the RESIDENTIAL garbage cans are picked up on the same day in that same area.

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[New1]

Please forgive me if my photobucket name was not funny to everyone. I wish I could change it, but i would have to start all over again and whats the point.

I am ready to follow trash trucks around now, but then I might be accused of stalking trash trucks. That dumpster in the parking lot by hooters, hmmmm. But the one at
OPJH makes sense cause they moved there. There are as many possible dumpsters as there are perps. Its mind boggeling.[/QUOTE

How big a city is Orange Park anyway? Sure seems to be a lot of dumpsters there for the size of the city. Maybe it is larger than I thought.

ETA: Sorry Sad, I forgot to quote your post. It's happening again that I am getting sleepy and my mind isn't working well. LOL

 

[sadnpod]

Wed morning Sad.....go follow that one from the ball park, it will prob go straight up Gano to OPJH.......

I think I can do that... do u have any idea what time? Is it in any way against the law for me to take pics and follow garabage trucks?

 

[camcneishg]

I think I can do that... do u have any idea what time? Is it in any way against the law for me to take pics and follow garabage trucks?

I was at the ball park on the Wed after Somer was missing...while standing there, a big trash truck came to empty the dumpster...was thinking now it was prob between 8:00-9:00 am

 

[New1]

I think it's time for me to be getting off here very soon. Making a lot of goof ups since I took my sleep meds. I don't want to look like an idiot for very much longer. Please believe me, I am not always this stupid - it's the sleep medication! Honest.

 

[camcneishg]

I think it's time for me to be getting off here very soon. Making a lot of goof ups since I took my sleep meds. I don't want to look like an idiot for very much longer. Please believe me, I am not always this stupid - it's the sleep medication! Honest.

Scoot over New1, I am right behind you....LOL

 

[Noway]

http://www.townoforangepark.com/service_standards.html

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The following are service standards for residential/commercial garbage, yard trash and recycling collection services established to meet the needs of residents of the Town or Orange Park. (I think that should be Town of Orange Park).

Dumpsters for commercial use shall be enclosed and visually screened in an effective manner (OP 2.05.17.000).

Momtective rocks :blowkiss:


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Originally Posted by cathdawg
Please correct me if I am wrong but I would think that these kind of commercial use dumpsters have different haulers as opposed to residential carriers.

No, when I called the City of OP I was told that commercial business dumpsters from the city and businesses are picked up by the city along with household garbage on the same collection days.
Private contractor dumpsters for construction are emptied by that contractor not the city. The one at the 1080 Gano house was contracted through Amason's http://maps.google.com/maps/place?so...19063893251076

 

[human]

Please forgive me if my photobucket name was not funny to everyone. I wish I could change it, but i would have to start all over again and whats the point.

I am ready to follow trash trucks around now, but then I might be accused of stalking trash trucks. That dumpster in the parking lot by hooters, hmmmm. But the one at
OPJH makes sense cause they moved there. There are as many possible dumpsters as there are perps. Its mind boggeling.

Your pictures are fabulous and obviously took a lot of work. So many possibilities.