FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

[tarabull]

Can anyone point me to AC in any candlelight vigil photos or videos???

 

[Chili Fries]

I've always thought SP was there first as a friend for lunch and then as an Indigo Healer that afternoon.

You may very well be correct. If you look at SP's page about indigo ihildren you see he says:

Indigos are often diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) or Attention Deficit with Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Unfortunately, when they are medicated, the Indigos often lose their beautiful sensitivity, Divine gifts, and spiritual warrior energy.

I wonder if DT was struggling with choices about medicating Somer for psychological issues and was getting advice about it from SP.

I'm a scientist (basically a geochemist) who has a big problem with the way child psychiatrists often throw heavy medication at very poorly defined symptoms. I can understand parental backlash at that type of thing. But the indigo healer is just the other extreme of crazy. From reading a little bit about that stuff it seems to me that SP may have been encouraging DT to take the route of letting Somer be the Indigo Child that she is, nurturing her wildness and lack of patience for rules. Maybe they met for lunch to talk about SP "treating" Somer.

 

[tarabull]

I'm not certain Somer was the appointment with SP.

 

[tarabull]

Finally some news being reported about that one 18 year old punk with a gun...

http://www.claytoday.biz/content/1819_1.php

ETA: wow just read the details, 3 suspects total & one is female!

AETA: Common last name, but there's a house on debarry with same as the 18 year old, tho his address on the court docs is Lawtey FL.

 

[Chickadee]

ok, from reading some...the town of OP has their own trash service....could not find out if it was "Advanced Disposal", or not.....out side of the town of OP, uses Advanced Disposal....wonder what the town uses??? I can make a few calls tomorrow and try to find out.....the pics of the trucks that I posted, are two diff trucks I think.....diff one for dumpsters....I think.....

These pics are from Cranky's photobucket.

I'm assuming they use Amason's Roll Off Dumpsters because of the stickers on the side of the dumpster.


(904) 276-****

***Jefferson Ave
Orange Park, FL 32065


The Details on Amason's Roll Off Dumpsters
Category:

Garbage Collection, Waste Management, Demolition Contractors

 

[Chickadee]

http://www.townoforangepark.com/service_standards.html

(posted by Kaw Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL-Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park thread #10)

The following are service standards for residential/commercial garbage, yard trash and recycling collection services established to meet the needs of residents of the Town or Orange Park. (I think that should be Town of Orange Park).




Momtective rocks :blowkiss:


Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL-Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park thread #12

Oops!! I totally missed that last quote Noway...even though you had it in RED! I need coffee! :coffeeup:

 

[Chickadee]

Please forgive me if my photobucket name was not funny to everyone. I wish I could change it, but i would have to start all over again and whats the point.

I am ready to follow trash trucks around now, but then I might be accused of stalking trash trucks. That dumpster in the parking lot by hooters, hmmmm. But the one at
OPJH makes sense cause they moved there. There are as many possible dumpsters as there are perps. Its mind boggeling.

You earned yourself one of these :slap: girlfriend! :floorlaugh:

Thanks for the pics, they are great!!

 

[Chickadee]

Can anyone point me to AC in any candlelight vigil photos or videos???

:waitasec: I just looked through all of Cranky's PB pics and couldn't find him in any of them. Some of the pics are dark and quite small, so maybe I missed him. I also didn't see SP in any of the pics, as mentioned before. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.

 

[Chickadee]

:wave: Hello whatsmissing!
:Welcome-12-june: to Websleuths!

 

[ChickenPants]

I have a light bulb glimmering in my head.

It has been established by MPR that DT texted SP to ask how the kids were doing. This means that he WAS watching them. At that time, he either called her or texted her to let her know Somer was not with them.

We know by now Somer had a history of running off and showing up later "...just as DT or the babysitter would be phoning all of the neighbors looking for her" (she would suddenly show up).

Why, at this particular time, did DT go into panic mode? If Somer usually did this and went to play with other little friends, and SP had not contacted the neighbors (he didn't seem to think it was out of the ordinary), why did DT not just contact neighbors or come home... We have no record that anyone called 9-1-1. Why did DT go out to the park and start searching - get a gut feeling something was wrong this time, call CPC, flag down cop, then they all met at her house.

Somer routinely ran off and showed up later (I surmise after the other kids had gotten home). Somer did not show up...no big deal...AT says she got into a fight and ran ahead...nothing unusual...what is different here? Please someone turn on this light for me. Thanks in advance.

 

[ChickenPants]

You may very well be correct. If you look at SP's page about indigo ihildren you see he says:

Indigos are often diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) or Attention Deficit with Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Unfortunately, when they are medicated, the Indigos often lose their beautiful sensitivity, Divine gifts, and spiritual warrior energy.

I wonder if DT was struggling with choices about medicating Somer for psychological issues and was getting advice about it from SP.

I'm a scientist (basically a geochemist) who has a big problem with the way child psychiatrists often throw heavy medication at very poorly defined symptoms. I can understand parental backlash at that type of thing. But the indigo healer is just the other extreme of crazy. From reading a little bit about that stuff it seems to me that SP may have been encouraging DT to take the route of letting Somer be the Indigo Child that she is, nurturing her wildness and lack of patience for rules. Maybe they met for lunch to talk about SP "treating" Somer.

Then why not tell the police that? One would not have to go into detail. Perhaps it was DT who was getting treatment and she asked him to stay because it was one time there would be an adult waiting for the kids since her 17 year old babysitter had quit out of frustration.

If I am totally innocent, and want to find my missing child, I am going to blabber any and everything. I am not going to be selective at all about what I say. I am going to be a total basket case. I am not going to have the ability to show any "discernment".

I realize now that this is what initially caught my attention, caused me to keep looking at the tv interviews, bothered me all along and led me thus far. This is what was missing in DT's demeanor from the beginning. PANIC. If you truly believe that your child has been taken (she said, didn't she, that this time she just "knew") you would be in a total stage of PANIC. The panic would be about the child being possibly harmed or dead, not about whether or not one was saying the right thing to the right people. This is why most mothers are really sobbing and unable to give extended interviews... I said MOST mothers. I know some mothers go brain-dead and robotic. But most are not able to morph from sobbing and pleading to a vigilante posture within seconds. Not the people I have seen in this kind of distress.

 

[ChickenPants]

Issues such as child care arrangements or discussions about children can easily take place on the phone. If one is working one can use one's lunch hour to call. One does not have to drive some distance to go home to lunch and meet a friend for a discussion.

You are CPC. You are struggling financially with issues about supporting your own kids who not with you AND the girlfriend/kids you live with. Your girlfriend takes an extended lunch hour to meet with her male friend for lunch. Perhaps there are already issues going on the the home that have caused argument and possible threats of separation or violence. How are you feeling now?

 

[ChickenPants]

Friends and caring persons...the garbage trucks are as I write going around the apt. complex and unloading the dumpsters on their get-the-job-done time schedules. Nobody has looked into a dumpster to see what they are getting out of there. It's a simple matter of dig it out, throw it in. The whole process with two packed dumpsters has taken about 15 minutes.

It's just another day. They will take the garbage somewhere and unload it. Nobody will know or wonder if one bag is heavier than another. All routine.

There is no reason for anyone but Somer's killer to think that day's garbage would be interesting. The killer did his deed and then finished the job by putting the evidence in the garbage. He did not consider her as a human being. He considered her a problem, problem that is over. It is totally sickening to know that this innocent child had her short and, I think, lonely, life ended in this manner. But I know that by the time her body was disposed of, her soul had taken flight and watched the whole thing happen. And she sees and knows when it will all come to closure.

 

[camcneishg]

Friends and caring persons...the garbage trucks are as I write going around the apt. complex and unloading the dumpsters on their get-the-job-done time schedules. Nobody has looked into a dumpster to see what they are getting out of there. It's a simple matter of dig it out, throw it in. The whole process with two packed dumpsters has taken about 15 minutes.

It's just another day. They will take the garbage somewhere and unload it. Nobody will know or wonder if one bag is heavier than another. All routine.

There is no reason for anyone but Somer's killer to think that day's garbage would be interesting. The killer did his deed and then finished the job by putting the evidence in the garbage. He did not consider her as a human being. He considered her a problem, problem that is over. It is totally sickening to know that this innocent child had her short and, I think, lonely, life ended in this manner. But I know that by the time her body was disposed of, her soul had taken flight and watched the whole thing happen. And she sees and knows when it will all come to closure.

are you saying that they physically reach into the dumpster to empty it? or do they hoist it up and over? When I was searching, we could not reach way down into the dumpster that was located inside one of the apt complexes....I used a big 2X4 that was standing there to try and move some stuff in the bottom of it.....

 

[camcneishg]

Run sadnpod.....run!!

 

[camcneishg]

I am also wondering this.....DT is listed as "Receptionist".....don't they do phones?? So why text when you do phones?? odd....MO

 

[Cheewawa007]

I am also wondering this.....DT is listed as "Receptionist".....don't they do phones?? So why text when you do phones?? odd....MO

So that nobody can hear your conversation - you text. I've done it many times at my place of employment.

 

[sadnpod]

Sadnpod, I do not understand why DT would ask SP to babysit "because she didn't want LE to know the kids were coming home alone..." Are you saying he really was NOT babysitting that day? If he was not babysitting, what was he doing there at the time the kids got home and why did he indicate in his statement that he was babysitting when interviewed? Did they have a chance to discuss this before the LE interviews? If his babysitting was not true, then they would have deliberately misled police in the investigation.

I THINK they had lunch (for whatever reason) and he was waiting for her to come home. But I dont think it had anything to do with the kids. NO, I dont think he was babysitting. I dont know why he was there. I think there are many answers to that question. They had hours to discuss what they wanted before LE interview.

Deliberately misled LE? Hmmmmmm. I dont think it was the first time and I think he was protecting DT. Not to impede the investigation, at least not intentionally. I think it seemed like a white lie at the time KWIM? Does it say anywhere that SP said he was babysitting? IIRC, dt said that. Not SP.

There are several lies IMO, all to protect DT. She didnt know somer wandered? Give me a break. There was a list to call when she didnt come straight home. A list? A list is made for something that happens frequently.

Someone on here once said that somer has more attention from DT in death than she ever received in life. I think this is true.

Anyone who wants can get ur tomatoes ready. I can take em and look good in red. Do I think somer needed her dad? All little girls do. Did he let her down too? You bet. But not like her mother did, not because there was anyone more important than her. His inaction is his fault, but it was based on no resourses. DT had plenty of resources. Poor pitiful me who had no resources, single mom my a**. She has never been single as far as I can see. My friend calls these people monkeys. They cant let go of one hand until they have another. I think monkey describes dt very well. This also btw leaves no hand free for kids.

these are only my opinions

 

[sadnpod]

Finally some news being reported about that one 18 year old punk with a gun...

http://www.claytoday.biz/content/1819_1.php

ETA: wow just read the details, 3 suspects total & one is female!

AETA: Common last name, but there's a house on debarry with same as the 18 year old, tho his address on the court docs is Lawtey FL.

Punk is right tarabull.
AND the creepy eyes are there too.

 

[trigger]

:waitasec: I just looked through all of Cranky's PB pics and couldn't find him in any of them. Some of the pics are dark and quite small, so maybe I missed him. I also didn't see SP in any of the pics, as mentioned before. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.

Is AC...DT's oldest son?

Sorry..