FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #30

[camcneishg]

I also see where you can take this course "on line".......

 

[sorrell skye]

what does this mean?

- Order requiring completion of parenting education and stabilization course

??

Sounds like someone was investigated by child protective services & was court ordered to attend a parenting class.

 

[amytlake]

what does this mean?

- Order requiring completion of parenting education and stabilization course

??

1 of 2 things..
Either required by DCF after an investigation
OR
it's the parenting class Florida requires you to take in order to get divorced if the parents have children.

if this is DT and ST civil case, i'm going to assume it's likely the latter. When i got divorced (I live in FL), my ex and I were both required to do this "parenting class" in order to get the divorced finalized. (it was an online class much like traffic school online classes.. read a page, answer 2 questions, etc...)
The DCF classes are actual classes you have to attend for months i believe.

 

[camcneishg]

from what I know, the state requires BOTH parents to take this....

 

[amytlake]

I also see where you can take this course "on line".......

The that's just the parenting class you have to take in order to get divorced.. the DCF parneting classes they make you take after an investigation are not available online - you have to actually go to a center and sit in a class for 3 hours 3 days a week or something.
So i think this is benign and just a requirement to finalize their divorce

 

[camcneishg]

1 of 2 things..
Either required by DCF after an investigation
OR
it's the parenting class Florida requires you to take in order to get divorced if the parents have children.

if this is DT and ST civil case, i'm going to assume it's likely the latter. When i got divorced (I live in FL), my ex and I were both required to do this "parenting class" in order to get the divorced finalized. (it was an online class much like traffic school online classes.. read a page, answer 2 questions, etc...)
The DCF classes are actual classes you have to attend for months i believe.

I am pretty sure it is because of the divorce....makes sense here, at least to the courts....MO

 

[camcneishg]

how many of DT's children are actually ST's? little ST and AT?

 

[sorrell skye]

1 of 2 things..
Either required by DCF after an investigation
OR
it's the parenting class Florida requires you to take in order to get divorced if the parents have children.

if this is DT and ST civil case, i'm going to assume it's likely the latter. When i got divorced (I live in FL), my ex and I were both required to do this "parenting class" in order to get the divorced finalized. (it was an online class much like traffic school online classes.. read a page, answer 2 questions, etc...)
The DCF classes are actual classes you have to attend for months i believe.

Well that makes sense. Where I live, parenting classes are only court ordered when there is a CPS investigation, and only if CPS determines that the child(ren) have been abused or are at risk of being abused.

In divorce proceeding involving children where I live, the only thing state law requires is that legal counsel has been sought to write what is called a "parenting plan" that covers care & expenses until the children have graduated college. The parenting plan is attached to the petition for dissolution of marriage, and must be approved by the judge before the decree of dissolution is finalized.

But thanks for clarifying that, Amy. Apparently, every state has their own requirements.

 

[tarabull]

I've been comparing other recently disolved divorce records at Clay County, anyone whose interested might want to do the same.......or not.

(search by attorney)

 

[sadnpod]

The fundamental point to me is still the probability that she crossed the street without being seen by the crossing guards. Is traffic light enough after school lets out for her to cross at a place without a crossing guard?

She could have passed over to the park without a guard.. I think and have been told by people in the park that vehicle traffic has increased alot since then. So at that time it might not have been a big deal. Also if she crossed to go over to grove park, the crossing guard is down further, he may not have seen her.

 

[Noway]

What about a mailman?

Nobody would pay too much attention to a mailman. And they stop/go all the time. Wonder when (time) mail is delivered on Gano and surrounding area.

THEORY

 

[camcneishg]

She could have passed over to the park without a guard.. I think and have been told by people in the park that vehicle traffic has increased alot since then. So at that time it might not have been a big deal. Also if she crossed to go over to grove park, the crossing guard is down further, he may not have seen her.

let me see if I can explain this....from her school, the second crossing guard is at the corner of Gano and Grove Park....on the left, if you are coming from the school....if she took Grove park to the right....that would be after the second guard....unless she crossed over prior to him, like at the burnt home, to go over to the ball park...kwim? I would think there would be lots of traffic from parents getting children at school, and buses leaving just prior to this....I would think someone would have had to stop to see her cross the street, unless she waited and tried to go home later, after all had gone home.....MO

 

[camcneishg]

I just wonder if DT could have actually found her while searching, or AT? I hate to think this....but gosh....nothing makes sense to me.....please do not be upset with me for posting this....it is just a thought.....could have been furious with her, esp if she got a call from the school about a fight....if that even happened.....

 

[what about this?]

You know, I believe that if LE could have given ANY more information out at all, maybe this would be all over by now.

Someone did this, and someone knows. Anything, anything at all could have, and can still, turn this around.

This is how cold cases happen. IMO

 

[Noway]

order requiring completion of parenting education and stabilization course

I know I've seen this before December 16. (date it appears in divorce record of Diena and Samuel)

This might be it.
http://www.circuit8.org/ao/orders/5.1120%28E%29.pdf

 

[tarabull]

order requiring completion of parenting education and stabilization course

I know I've seen this before December 16.

This might be it.
http://www.circuit8.org/ao/orders/5.1120(E).pdf

I see alot of Child 1st in Divorce...
or
order for both parties to complete CFID
and then:
certificate of completion of "A Positive Divorce Resolution"
certificate of completion of "A Positive Divorce Resolution"
(showing both parties completed it)

not the parenting education and stabilization course ....
but when i find the same wording, i'll let you know.

 

[Noway]

What I meant was that I'd seen mention of it in the divorce records but listed on a different date.

I'm afraid discussion about it might have been in Thread 14 where stuff was deleted.

This might be different than your run of the mill parenting class.

 

[amytlake]

I see alot of Child 1st in Divorce...
or
order for both parties to complete CFID
and then:
certificate of completion of "A Positive Divorce Resolution"
certificate of completion of "A Positive Divorce Resolution"
(showing both parties completed it)

not the parenting education and stabilization course ....
but when i find the same wording, i'll let you know.

http://www.divorce-resolution.com/

"A Positive Divorce Resolution (PDR) is an approved 4-hour Parent Education & Family Stabilization Course for parents who are divorcing"

 

[sadnpod]

let me see if I can explain this....from her school, the second crossing guard is at the corner of Gano and Grove Park....on the left, if you are coming from the school....if she took Grove park to the right....that would be after the second guard....unless she crossed over prior to him, like at the burnt home, to go over to the ball park...kwim? I would think there would be lots of traffic from parents getting children at school, and buses leaving just prior to this....I would think someone would have had to stop to see her cross the street, unless she waited and tried to go home later, after all had gone home.....MO

BBM

I think the crossing guard is on the left, but the right turn on grove park is before that guard, like 1/4 to 1/2 a block before. its doesnt cross straight over

 

[Noway]

6/10/2009
Certificate of Completion of A Positive Divorce Resolution

DT ST Divorce Record

This might be what I was thinking of. It seems like the run of the mill class for parents.


ETA: Just wondering if the murder of Somer may have required something more than your usual parenting class ...