I noticed the different times given. It makes it very difficult to pin anything down completely. This is an event where even a couple of minutes makes a difference. I can't get over how the window of opportunity for the killer was so small.
What you think the construction workers killed her in that house and threw her in a conveniently located dumpster on their own jobsite? Not likely. And their vehicles are not still impounded as evidence so they didn't take her somewhere else either.
They are cleared in my mind.
Somer walks with MC up to a point when she has spat.
J., boy on bicycle sees Somer at tanks with frown on her face.
Somer talks with Kyle.
Somer is seen near Gano and Grove Park by CS.
Somer catches up with siblings in 1100 block of Gano (this is near Gano and Grove Park).
Somer takes off, and they lose sight of her in the crowd of other kids.
So did Somer hide somewhere, let her siblings pass her and head back to the park to take the shortcut? If so, maybe she talked to Kyle then.
I think they are not relying on the statements of the children ... so that may be why Kyle is the "last one" ... or he is. She could have also encountered M. again and walked home with her ... and then taken the route that made M. comment that tomorrow she'd ask her where she goes.
BBM
maybe both stories are true..
she leaves school w sibs, argues with abby, smacks sam with backpack, runs left on gano
boy on bicycle sees Somer at tanks with frown on her face. (hiding from sibs, they pass, she then:
Somer talks with Kyle.
Somer is seen near Gano and Grove Park by CS.
Somer catches up with siblings in 1100 block of Gano (this is near Gano and Grove Park).
Somer takes off, and they lose sight of her in the crowd of other kids.[/B] MC is a part of this crowd, goes right on grove park wth MC, has another spat with her and heads to shortcut back to park from grove park to wait for ac
or takes shortcut home from arbor to debarry through hole in fence.
If this statement by kyle is true, Somer would have gone back toward the school, wouldn't she? I am assuming she approached the Gano house from the direction of the school. Of course, I don't think I have ever heard from which direction she came to the Gano house. I guess she could have passed it by on her way home then doubled back and came to the Gano house from toward Debarry, thus never being seen by the crossing guard at Debarry. It would help if we knew what time kyle saw her and what time CS's daughter saw her, and what time it was when she separated from the little girl who said she walked home with Somer that day. I suppose LE has all that information and have determined the time line of who was the last to see Somer that day, but are not releasing that information.
I am wondering now about MC telling her uncle she walked home with Somer that day. Did she mean her home or Somer's home?
As I understand it :
1. Somer walked from school with her friend M ; they walked along Gano.
2. Somer ran ahead,and caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano.She became upset after a conversation with her sister,and ran ahead.Her siblings lost sight of her in a large group of kids walking along Gano.
3.She was seen at the propane tanks on Gano.
4. She was seen at the Gano House by a worker,who said she praised their work,and then left the way she came.
5.Connie S's daughter saw Somer at the junction of Gano and Grove Park Drive. * Somer's siblings did not see her at all on the rest of their walk home. We do not know who, if anyone,she was with when Connie S's daughter saw her.*
I have been thinking in too much of a linear way, because I placed her at the corner of Gano and Grove Park, AFTER she exited the Gano House. It could easily happened that she walked back to the Gano House AFTER she saw Connie S's daughter. Didn't an anonymous caller suggest that LE check the Gano House and dumpster ? They must have seen something ?
For what it's worth, I believe that most construction companies -- even small ones -- start work early, about 7a.m., and finish up early too, usually around 3p.m. * Speculating * that someone could have offered a ride, or gone to the park with Somer ?
Somer walks with MC up to a point when she has spat.
J., boy on bicycle sees Somer at tanks with frown on her face.
Somer talks with Kyle.
Somer is seen near Gano and Grove Park by CS.
Somer catches up with siblings in 1100 block of Gano (this is near Gano and Grove Park).
Somer takes off, and they lose sight of her in the crowd of other kids.
So did Somer hide somewhere, let her siblings pass her and head back to the park to take the shortcut? If so, maybe she talked to Kyle then.
I think they are not relying on the statements of the children ... so that may be why Kyle is the "last one" ... or he is. She could have also encountered M. again and walked home with her ... and then taken the route that made M. comment that tomorrow she'd ask her where she goes.
That is all speculation on my part, not fact.
IIRC, the quote was that she went "around the house" at Gano. Whatever that means.
Did she go into the back yard?
Someone saw Somer in front of the Gano house. The workers were questioned by LE because someone saw Somer there on the sidewalk and she was seen nowhere else, except by the little M girl that walked with Somer.
LE told Kyle that HE was the last KNOWN person to see Somer alive, but we have this little girl that saw Somer WHEN?
Seriously, why would Kyle say that he saw Somer? He must have. Why make up a story that puts you in the microscope of hundreds of LE? Remember, the reporter called Kyle, so Kyle is not some serial confessor.
Everything is totally mum on Kyle. Everyone else seems to have statements and are people that are identified by first and last name. What's up with Kyle?
I remember reading that she walked from the school with her friend M for about 5 minutes. She then caught up with her siblings in the 1100 block of Gano. As far as I can tell she didn't see M again. The whole scenario that was given by the worker at the Gano House does not sound true to me. Something's off there IMO.
Detectives collected what they describe as a large quantity of evidence at both the garbage dump where the 7-year-old's body was found, and a vacant home near Somer's school
This reply was made back:It has never been released/confirmed that the house on Gano was a "crime" scene -- Are you confirming this??
Reply to "Girl"
No, there is no confirmation that any crime occured in the vacant house.
We are simply reporting that status of the investigation, using the terms of the investigators.
-Mike
By Mike Dorwart, Program Director @ 01/05/10 04:57:04 PMreport abuseHouse
Initial contact site
The initial contact site is where the killer makes contact with the victim. This site can be quite close to the last known location and enhances the reasons for a thorough canvass and search. This is the one location where the suspect has to expose himself to the potential of being seen by others. It may be momentary but it is the one location the suspect has no control over. As the victim is often one of opportunity for the suspect, he has no control over where he will make contact with the victim. This location provides the potential for those unknowing witnesses, who may have a description of the suspect and/or his vehicle. This site is usually within ¼ mile or three city blocks of the victim's last known location and a third of the time within a quarter mile of the suspect's residence. Hence the importance of determining the victim's last known location and then canvassing and searching out in a minimum of ½ mile radius for the location the suspect and victim came into contact with each other.
As far as people in the neighborhood watching the Thompson's kids.................. I am only thinking of myself here, and I am a conscientious person.
I doubt , except for noticing that Somer ran wild, that anyone was paying any particular attention to what Somer was up to. Neighbors have their own lives and own issues.
Maybe someone at first might have been concerned and keeping track. But then they see that DT works and she has -------
( I am only giving some ideas of what people in the neighborhood might get resentful over because they had to provide FREE babysitting. NO ONE is that saintly, I don't think to not get resentful).
Anyway- parties, cars, she lives in her parents house, her kids have fancy clothes- I don't know. These are just some ideas of things that might make other people mad and not pay attention to the T kids.
But someone who really "cares" about children would be in the catbird seat to take advantage of a situation like this. They would know exactly what the kids are up to and where they are.
So, it could be a neighbor, neighbor friend or acqaintance, friend or acquanitance of the family, or DT or PC or SP or Kyle or RSO, or GCV. So many choices!
IMPORTANT SITES
Child abduction murders are different in general from most murder investigations in that there are a number of important sites and crime scenes associated with them. In the majority of murder cases all events occur in one location, the victim and suspect come into contact with each other, there is an assault causing death and the victim's body is left where it falls. This is not true in child abduction cases. A number of different sites have to be located for those unknowing witnesses and evidence linking the suspect to the victim. Each site is a potential crime scene and needs to be treated as such. The area needs to be sealed off and protected until it can be processed as a crime scene for evidence.
Last seen or known location
The last seen or known location site is where the victim was last known to be or seen. It is typically not their residence however most were last seen within a ¼ mile of their front door. Keep in mind the younger the victim the closer to home this location will be.
Initial contact site
The initial contact site is where the killer makes contact with the victim. This site can be quite close to the last known location and enhances the reasons for a thorough canvass and search. This is the one location where the suspect has to expose himself to the potential of being seen by others. It may be momentary but it is the one location the suspect has no control over. As the victim is often one of opportunity for the suspect, he has no control over where he will make contact with the victim. This location provides the potential for those unknowing witnesses, who may have a description of the suspect and/or his vehicle. This site is usually within ¼ mile or three city blocks of the victim's last known location and a third of the time within a quarter mile of the suspect's residence. Hence the importance of determining the victim's last known location and then canvassing and searching out in a minimum of ½ mile radius for the location the suspect and victim came into contact with each other.
Murder site
The location where the suspect kills the victim, often under their control, however not always as circumstances may dictate. Due to their size children are least able to withstand physical assault and control by adults. The importance in finding this site is that it is second only to the body recovery site in yielding physical evidence, which links the suspect to the victim. As the majority of child victims are killed within 200 feet of the body recovery site it is important to initially tape off an area at least 200 feet out from the victim's body. You can always make a crime scene smaller, however it is almost impossible to enlarge one.